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5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If we can trade McCarron for anything we save $1 million on the cap this year and $5 million next year. That's the best thing we can do right now. This is his 4th year in the league and he hasn't improved at all. I'd rather just see Peterman if the plan is to let Allen be the backup for a few games. At least Peterman has a chance of becoming something.

 

And then the cynic in me would think the Pats would cut Danny Etling, sign AJ and just get the playbook out of him :)

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Only trade McC if we can get something worthwhile (a 4th rounder) and can save enough to pay for another backup when our starter goes down. Even a one week injury would require bringing someone in. If we trade McC, we'd likely bring a QB in from another team right away for the practice squad.

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No way AJ doesn't make this team or gets traded considering the shape of that offensive line and their backups.

 

If Peterman starts I suspect he will last about a half against the Ravens and Allen might make it a few games. If this regime wants to survive the season they will probably need more than three QB's.

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2 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Maybe 10 guys who touched the field last night will make the team and as someone said, 10 may be generous. So AJ was playing with bad talent, but he should have looked a lot better than them. Instead he looked just like them. 

 

 

 

 

 

Bingo.

 

 

 

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Would not be surprised to see the Bills keep 3 QBs, at least to start the season.  It's not like the Bills are overloaded with talent across the lineup to justify having 2 QBs.  If, during the season, Bills have the opportunity to make a roster move to increase talent level, one of the two (AJ or NP) could be released.  We don't know how much the injury might still be affecting AJ and running a basic offense with some marginal players might have played in his performance.  He does hold onto the ball too long (Sacked), it was a very poor choice to throw the pick 6, and I didn't believe he was all that accurate in the game.  Still, the coaches have a lot more material for evaluation than we casual fans, so it should be interesting to see how it all shakes out.  

Finally,  even though it was a meaningless preseason game last night, I wanted to see some of these players get one more chance to show what they could do.  AJ and Ray Ray showed some positive things.  

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9 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

It was meaningless and first half dreadful but nice job hanging there to at least end this very strange preseason on a positive note 

Going 13-34 is pathetic numbers against guys who will be cut Saturday,  i say trade or cut him and sign a vet to be 3rd string QB.  

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36 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

You absolutely are dripping with jealousy. Why worry, maybe Penn State will win the title this year, right?

 

More like dripping with annoyance for people that think that McCarron and Foster are worthy of roster spots due to their college program.

 

But carry on

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4 hours ago, joesixpack said:

Lol Alabama fans 

^^^ This.

 

AJ plays like crap, Well he played great at Alabama 5 years ago so he obviously is good. 

 

Oh, like 13-33 good?

 

 

39 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

You absolutely are dripping with jealousy. Why worry, maybe Penn State will win the title this year, right?

I mean if Christian Hackenberg were here and he was telling us how good he is because of how good he played at Penn state that one year it would make sense, but it doesnt.

 

McCarron is not a starter, never has been, never will be.

He is a backup QB, an above average backup QB, but a backup.

 

I'm so glad we can finally get past, AJ throwing for 4,000 yards and 30 TD's like some were predicting when the Bills signed him. 

 

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7 hours ago, Figster said:

Being a bama/McCarron fan made the comeback extra special. 

 

A J playing for Buffalo has been a dream of mine for a few years now. Was the comeback enough to make the team? I hope it was, and watching McCarron on the sidelines at times during the preseason conversing with Allen gives the impression the relationship between them from a mentoring standpoint would be a good one. I'm not sure Peterman could offer the same kind guidance with so little experience.

 

If I'm McD and based partly on the shaky 1 string Oline,  I'm keeping a plan A, B, and C at the QB position.

 

Peterman for the start, see where it goes...

With this offensive line they would be crazy to go in with only 3 QBs.  Allen may prove to be totally "unplayable" this year is another factor, they arent going to cut him.  I think it is a foregone conclusion you keep 3.

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17 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Going 13-34 is pathetic numbers against guys who will be cut Saturday,  i say move and vet to be 3rd string QB.  

Wow was it really 13-34, lol, I only saw the highlights of the game. What was really pathetic was the pick six, it was telegraphed, no zip on the ball and late but beyond that it was a quality pass.

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36 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

He made a collage video from Camp & preseason of the scrubs he’d be playing with and showed it to them the night before. He was pretty emotional about it after the game. He knew it would be the last time they’d be together and perhaps the end of NFL dreams for many.

Class act and a veteran move. We don’t have that @ QB on this team if he leaves. 

Great for him. I wish the Bills had someone at QB that didn't even have to bother playing in the preseason, or worry about NFL Dreams for many. That would be nice.

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Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:

Wow was it really 13-34, lol, I only saw the highlights of the game. What was really pathetic was the pick six, it was telegraphed, no zip on the ball and late but beyond that it was a quality pass.

 

Even the TD to Foster was garbage

That ball had so much air under it

The only reason it wasn't picked was because the bears were playing their ps defense

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3 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Maybe 10 guys who touched the field last night will make the team and as someone said, 10 may be generous. So AJ was playing with bad talent, but he should have looked a lot better than them. Instead he looked just like them. 

 

He did not have lots of drops. He just didn’t look good. Did he maybe play himself into one more NFL roster late? Only a team in true desperate straights could believe in him. 

LOL! If Josh Allen had the exact same game and engineered the come back like that you guys would all be saying he's the second coming of Joe Montana. Fact.

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I think that it would be a big mistake for the Bills to release AJ.

 

I thought he did fine given the cast around him.  Just like I did not hold it against Allen last week, I am taking the same approach with AJ.

 

 

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Nice comeback W for AJ but I hope he never starts a real game for the Bills.   He won the game with some timely first down scrambles and by taking two Personal foul penalties to his facemask/head area.   His TD throw to Foster was real nice.

 

On the flip side, he could not get away from the pass rush unless he bailed out real early...otherwise he was caught from behind by the big  D-linemen.  His eyes reading the field look slow and his passes lack any zip. 

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52 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Hats off to AJ but also to EJ.  Last night against the Seahawks, EJ went 18-22, 255 YDS and 3 TDS.  Good for him.

EJ historically tears it up in preseason game #4 against the lowest levels of NFL talent.  There is a HUGE talent gap.

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They better not run that play that was the pick six again in the regular season because it will be a pick six again unless Allen guns it. Having a running back run ten yards and then turn around and wait for the ball is stupid, as they just don't run patterns like WR. Even Cadet who runs good patterns for a RB. It's a pick six waiting to happen. AJ threw a horrible ball but a RB is just not going to plant and turn around and come back to the ball fast enough on a pattern like that. Even Shady probably wouldn't and he has some of the fastest feet in the league. 

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29 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

EJ historically tears it up in preseason game #4 against the lowest levels of NFL talent.  There is a HUGE talent gap.

Yet, he tore it up, probably with his backup job on the line.  We are praising a guy we signed to be a possible starter for coming back against 4th stringers and guys who are going to our of the league.

 

I mean good for him for keeping competing.  I’d rather have him on roster anyways but it’s kinda crazy to overvalue it.  

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1 minute ago, Dave Allen said:

The comeback and his actions/comments show a lot of character. Whether or not he makes the 53, I wish him the best.

Why wouldn't AJ make the team? He's a proven NFL backup and thus far Peterman or Allen haven't proven to be an NFL starter. Toss in AJ is a good guy in the locker room etc and we aren't paying starting money he seems like he secured himself a job with his 4th quarter performance and I can't see a better veteran QB being available after final cuts. 

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

I think that it would be a big mistake for the Bill to release AJ.

 

I thought he did fine given the cast around him.  Just like I did it against Allen last week, I am taking the same approach with AJ.

 

 

 

.....didn't expect much in his first action since injury...........

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1 hour ago, CountDorkula said:

^^^ This.

 

AJ plays like crap, Well he played great at Alabama 5 years ago so he obviously is good. 

 

Oh, like 13-33 good?

 

 

I mean if Christian Hackenberg were here and he was telling us how good he is because of how good he played at Penn state that one year it would make sense, but it doesnt.

 

McCarron is not a starter, never has been, never will be.

He is a backup QB, an above average backup QB, but a backup.

 

I'm so glad we can finally get past, AJ throwing for 4,000 yards and 30 TD's like some were predicting when the Bills signed him. 

 

I must hand it to most UGA Fans.....they did take the loss pretty well.

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25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yet, he tore it up, probably with his backup job on the line.  We are praising a guy we signed to be a possible starter for coming back against 4th stringers and guys who are going to our of the league.

 

I mean good for him for keeping competing.  I’d rather have him on roster anyways but it’s kinda crazy to overvalue it.  

I am not praising McCarron.  I think he doesn't deserve a spot on the roster personally.

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Just now, CountDorkula said:

Um alright?

Well, I saw your location and sensed that it might explain some hostility. :)

 

If AJ is as bad as you think he is, you should want him to start. Allen will get destroyed behind our OL and Peterman must prove that he isn't the worst QB in the history of the NFL.

That said, I am 100% pleased that they drafted Allen. 100%.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Well, I saw your location and sensed that it might explain some hostility. :)

 

If AJ is as bad as you think he is, you should want him to start. Allen will get destroyed behind our OL and Peterman must prove that he isn't the worst QB in the history of the NFL.

That said, I am 100% pleased that they drafted Allen. 100%.

 

 

He reminds you of Ryan Mallett, huh? ?

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4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He reminds you of Ryan Mallett, huh? ?

Mallett was an absolute failure but he is 100x better than Peterman will ever be, or so I think.  He could throw a better out pattern with his left hand than Peterman could with a running start. :)

 

As for Allen, he is a lot more athletic than Mallett and also has a cannon.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

EJ historically tears it up in preseason game #4 against the lowest levels of NFL talent.  There is a HUGE talent gap.

When he was here,  EJ couldn't go 18-22 hitting the water from a dock. I know it was against scrubs, just saying good for him. 

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1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

Mallett was an absolute failure but he is 100x better than Peterman will ever be, or so I think.  He could throw a better out pattern with his left hand than Peterman could with a running start. :)

 

As for Allen, he is a lot more athletic than Mallett and also has a cannon.

 

 

 

I’m not high on Peterman but I think you underestimating how terrible Mallett is.  He has a career 66 qb rating.  And while Peterman is limited, I’m pretty convinced he won’t sleep through team meetings and have a cocaine problem. 

 

As for Allen, I’m not a fan of the pick.  These guys rarely pan out.  But that’s why they need to be as Patient as possible with him.  You start him to early, all his bad habits will kick back in. 

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22 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Well, I saw your location and sensed that it might explain some hostility. :)

 

If AJ is as bad as you think he is, you should want him to start. Allen will get destroyed behind our OL and Peterman must prove that he isn't the worst QB in the history of the NFL.

That said, I am 100% pleased that they drafted Allen. 100%.

 

 

IM a UGA fan, Im not sure what me being a UGA fan has to do with me continually thinking McCarron is not good.

 

And if you look around the league at this past offseason with the crazy money that was thrown around at QB's the rest of the league somewhat agrees. 

 

Why was McCarron the last one to get a contract.

When he ran the Bengals offense it was the same issues you saw here and the Bengals offense took a nose dive. 

 

Hes was not good, IMO, and he has done nothing to prove to me this year that he is going to improve.  

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