oldmanfan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I think you have to have a conversation. But until I saw other reports indicating the Bills may be interested, I pretty much wrote off the OP. Because it was, after all, LaCanfora. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Mack already stated Buffalo is his city. Wow...ya don’t hear THAT very often! Has a nice ring to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I just googled "khalil mack watkins stole my city" and the fifth hit is: On 7/26/2018 at 5:02 PM, YoloinOhio said: “Sammy Watkins stole my city”. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 9 hours ago, jimmy10 said: mesmerizing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 If Mack communicated that he'd want to play for the Bills, the Bills would be foolish in not trying to swing a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Why would they even want one of the guys we are talking about? Just give them a 1st and a 2nd. The Raiders don’t want a rotational lineman for an elite defender. Gruden will want 2 of his own hand picked players. They'll need a player for this year to replace Mack add depth... I could see them wanting a player now and a next years 1st plus more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1st, 3rd, 5th and 100M contract gets it done. If not move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: 1st, 3rd, 5th and 100M contract gets it done. If not move on. Throw in free Elmo’s wings for life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Throw in free Elmo’s wings for life But the free wings for life does not go into affect until he retires or moves on from Buffalo.. Can't slow the man down in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Does anyone have a link to where Mack said Buffalo is his city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go-Bills Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 He was in Buffalo recently, just adds to the intreague!!! will be interesting to follow. Still think it's a stretch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Does anyone have a link to where Mack said Buffalo is his city? https://buffalonews.com/2016/12/01/khalil-mack-jokes-sammy-watkins-stole-city-2014-draft-bills-raiders/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: But the free wings for life does not go into affect until he retires or moves on from Buffalo.. Can't slow the man down in his prime. Wouldn’t Mack just request a trade out of Buffalo then- just to get his free wings? I don’t think the team should be offering any incentive for him to leave town, wings or no wings...it’s just too risky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 We better start asking the hard hitting questions, like what jersey number is he going to wear and when can i buy one from the bills shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Is anyone tracking Pegula’s plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 hours ago, billspro said: Mack would be a process guy. With that contract it would be hard to offer a 1st though. Honestly what the hell is a process guy. He's just a reallly really good player I wish we had been able to pull off a trade for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://buffalonews.com/2016/12/01/khalil-mack-jokes-sammy-watkins-stole-city-2014-draft-bills-raiders/ Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, mannc said: The Cooks trade actually supports my argument. 1. Edge rusher is not “just below QB” in positional value. The drop off is huge. If qb is 10, edge is 3 or 4, even if edge is the second most valuable, which it’s not. (That would be WR.) 2. Cooks has averaged over 1100 yds receiving the last 3 seasons. 3. Cooks turns 25 next month. Mack turns 28 in February. That matters. 4. Cooks signed a five-year extension with only $20 million guaranteed. Mack will be looking for around $60 million guaranteed, if not more. 5. You are wrong about what the Rams gave up for Cooks. They gave up less than 23 overall. They got Cooks and NE’s 4th round pick for 23 overall and their 6th rounder. And at the time they made the trade, the Rams knew they were only giving up 23 overall. The Bills would be giving up what might well be a top 10 overall pick in a draft packed with impact d-linemen and edge rushers. Those guys will be 21-years old, and on cheap contracts through 2022. 6. I think you are overestimating the number of teams seriously interested in trading for Mack. I think it’s probably only a couple. Conclusion: The Raiders will be lucky to get someone’s 2019 first round pick for Mack, and the Bills might actually be overpaying by giving them just next year’s first. I think Beane might get it done for a second and a player like Shaq. One other conclusion: Jon Gruden is an idiot, I agree with all of it except for#1 Teams value edge rushers very much If a QB is 10/10 value then edge rush/dline rush, oline, cb, wr are all valued probably 6-7/10 if they are elite. The top paid NFL players after QBs reflect this. The top contracts are littered with CBs, "sack" specialists, WRs and oline studs. It doesn't change your point overall, although cooks is not as dominant at his position as Mack is at his, so I think Mack will fetch and earn more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Take out a 2nd mortgage on the Cap, frack a few more wells, our entire slate of 2019 draft picks, whatever it takes, but GIT R DUN!! Back up the Brinks truck and get MACK!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobobonators said: Is anyone tracking Pegula’s plane? Why? From what I am tracking Mack is in Buffalo training this offseason during thr hold-out 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Why? From what I am tracking Mack is in Buffalo training this offseason during thr hold-out Well he could take off, circle the airport 2 or three times and then land again, that would be a good sign eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Before we attempt to unload assets and a HUGE chunk of money, do we know what he prefers with his wings? Bleu cheese or ranch? Could be the deal breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, jamiezzz said: Before we attempt to unload assets and a HUGE chunk of money, do we know what he prefers with his wings? Bleu cheese or ranch? Could be the deal breaker. I don't think its even a question, a man like Mack knows its Bleu Cheese or bust. His Momma didn't raise no fool I'm sure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 hours ago, billspro said: Mack would be a process guy. With that contract it would be hard to offer a 1st though. what does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, jamiezzz said: Before we attempt to unload assets and a HUGE chunk of money, do we know what he prefers with his wings? Bleu cheese or ranch? Could be the deal breaker. I tell people all the time if they come to Buffalo, order wings and ask for Ranch dressing they will literally be kicked out of the restaurant haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 However IF we are going to trade for and give up big money for someone on the DL. I would much rather it be Aaron Darnold over Mack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just the thought of having Mack and Edmunds lining up at LB for us makes me go from 6 to 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: I've said Hughes and a 1st. Hughes nets you $6.35 million in cap savings. Lawson nets you $1.38. My question to all would be IF the trade goes down AND Hughes is still on the team, where does Hughes go? Both play the right DE position. I like that Hughes and a first would work. Cmon McBean let’s get his done!!!!!! 4 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Just the thought of having Mack and Edmunds lining up at LB for us makes me go from 6 to 12 I think Mack would line up at DE for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, wppete said: I think Mack would line up at DE for us. Either way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Man if ol Dougy would have just took the obvious fit and drafted him the first place. I know hindsight is 20/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: Process reaching critical mass.... If they feel strongly enough about Allen to forfeit draft picks I say go for it. Even if we gave him a 3 year extention We'd have him for the bulk of his prime anyway and I think they could massage the cap to keep him around and still sign Josh Allen when he comes up. My thoughts exactly. If we already have a QB, it's time to get any big-time talent and get good before we have to pay Josh 40mil a year at the end of his contract (if he becomes what they think he can). That seems to be the closest thing to a "formula" for a chance at the SB. Unless you have a HOFer willing to play at a steep discount, the best way to get a SB window is to have a great team and an up-coming young QB on their rookie contract. This was true of Balt before Flacco got paid, GB before Rodgers got paid, Seattle before Wilson got paid, etc. Teams still have a good/great team once they pay the QB, but it's downhill from there generally because you can't have too many marquee players when paying a QB 30 mil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Shotgunner said: My thoughts exactly. If we already have a QB, it's time to get any big-time talent and get good before we have to pay Josh 40mil a year at the end of his contract (if he becomes what they think he can). That seems to be the closest thing to a "formula" for a chance at the SB. Unless you have a HOFer willing to play at a steep discount, the best way to get a SB window is to have a great team and an up-coming young QB on their rookie contract. This was true of Balt before Flacco got paid, GB before Rodgers got paid, Seattle before Wilson got paid, etc. Teams still have a good/great team once they pay the QB, but it's downhill from there generally because you can't have too many marquee players when paying a QB 30 mil... Seems like the best windows are teams with QBs on their rookie deals, unless you've got Brady willing to take money funneled through his dummy corporations instead of a salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Would he fit what the Bills are trying to do on Defense???? Joking boys just joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: Would he fit what the Bills are trying to do on Defense???? Joking boys just joking. 100% they want to get pressure from the front 4 and play zone behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzReaper Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 They can make it happen if they want to... The Raiders can't expect too much for him as others have stated he's going to cost a crap ton to resign... I bet he will hold out right into the regular season. The guy ain't messing around it's his will vs Grudens imo and I think he knows he's good enough to make up his lost $ eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I just want to live in this thread. The title makes me feel all warm and fuzzy and safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thenorthremembers Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 WGR seems to think it would take Tre White. If that's the case no thanks. #1 Pass Rusher is huge for a roster, but so is your #1CB. In my mind Tre White should be the only untouchable player on the roster right now, beyond Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, thenorthremembers said: WGR seems to think it would take Tre White. If that's the case no thanks. #1 Pass Rusher is huge for a roster, but so is your #1CB. In my mind Tre White should be the only untouchable player on the roster right now, beyond Allen. I can see a 1st and a 2nd or 3rd plus a player like maybe Lawson or Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The Bills really value high draft picks, especially the 2019 selection. As good as Mack is, I think they would be crazy to give up a 2019 #1. They won’t admit it publicly but when you are faced with the prospect of starting a rookie QB or an improved QB, you have to brace yourself to take a step backward. Is Mack worth what could be a Top 5 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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