Is Steve Tasker Peterman's agent?

[vorpma]

3 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day.  

This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman.  

He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.  

 

Another really dumb post!

 

[Steptide]

3 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day.  

This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman.  

He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.  

 

Well on the contrary, all Murphys done is pimp Josh allen and talk about him like he's Brady. So I guess there's a balance. 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

2 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Well on the contrary, all Murphys done is pimp Josh allen and talk about him like he's Brady. So I guess there's a balance. 

Considering they're both employed by the Bills on a show that's a literal 2 hour paid advertisment by the Bills, you gotta take what they say with a grain of salt.

[Albany,n.y.]

13 minutes ago, vorpma said:

Another really dumb post!

 

Now Tasker's agent chimes in. 

2 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Honestly, if EJ Manuel would have been able to sit behind Kolb for a year, I think he'd be our QB today. 

 

The Buffalo Destroyers don't exist anymore for EJ to be our QB today.  EJ's been sitting for a few years now and nobody in the NFL would want him as their starter.  The ruined a QB stuff is absolute nonsense.

[The Wiz]

Honest question, how many QBs have actually succeeded after sitting and learning when they were a first round pick?

 

Only one I know of is Rodgers.

 

I'm sure it worked in the past but he's the last one I remember actually doing it.

 

Edited August 22, 2018 by The Wiz

[The Jokeman]

4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day.  

This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman.  

He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.  

 

Peterman's looked the best in the two preseason games thus far, yes Allen has more upside but I don't think McDermott wants to rush anything. Toss in if Peterman looks good we could always trade him for a high draft pick. 

[vorpma]

27 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Now Tasker's agent chimes in. 

The Buffalo Destroyers don't exist anymore for EJ to be our QB today.  EJ's been sitting for a few years now and nobody in the NFL would want him as their starter.  The ruined a QB stuff is absolute nonsense.

Still a really dumb post!

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, The Wiz said:

Honest question, how many QBs have actually succeeded after sitting and learning when they were a first round pick?

 

Only one I know of is Rodgers.

 

Steve McNair sat, I don't think we have to sit Allen as better see what he has now versus later. 

[vincec]

3 hours ago, JPP said:

Peterman experience v Allen experience is not much at all.......Peterman only had 4 quarters of live NFL action i believe.....the 1st 2 quarters obviously a complete disaster......play Allen.....

This is what I find the funniest. People talk about Peterman and McCarron like their seasoned starters. They’re not.

[quinnearlysghost88]

4 hours ago, Direhard Fan said:

If it's between Peterman or Allen , I rather see Peterman just because he has the year experience.  Let Josh learn from the bench and don't get him killed the first year.  I worry about the "O" line letting that happen. 

it's not like he gained anymore physical attributes in that year. his delivery is still iceberg slow and he was demoted to third-string last preseason game. i was not on the 'start allen game 1' train, but if AJ is unable to play, start allen game 1. you have nothing to lose, because Peterman's not getting you anywhere.  

11 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Honest question, how many QBs have actually succeeded after sitting and learning when they were a first round pick?

 

Only one I know of is Rodgers.

 

I'm sure it worked in the past but he's the last one I remember actually doing it.

 

This is a good question. Like, what are you learning? Not the speed of the game. Not how to run an offense. You're getting lots of film and practice and situational stuff. Eventually you have to get out there and, ya know, throw the ball to people. Let's expedite that part. 

[Steptide]

46 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Considering they're both employed by the Bills on a show that's a literal 2 hour paid advertisment by the Bills, you gotta take what they say with a grain of salt.

Murphys been pretty annoying about Allen Imo. Super Homer about him and the bills. I get it, they're bills employees, but still. 

[brianthomas]

I just think with this o line that having Peterman back there is a mistake. He's not as mobile as Josh so if (when) he gets under pressure, i'm afraid he'll have to rush his throws & throw more INT's or eat sacks. Nate has proved he can be accurate when he throws on rhythm & with anticipation. But when the line breaks down, I haven't seen him have much success. There's no guarantee Josh can do well in that scenario either. But he's looked extremely poised when the pocket collapses & he's shown he can escape pressure with his legs, all while looking downfield at the same time.

You factor in how its a tough choice between the 2 from how they've both played well & how he's the QB of the future & to me i think Allen is the easy choice.

 

[cd1]

2 hours ago, PRBills said:

For the "let Allen sit for the season and learn" crowd, since Peterman basically sat all last season, is he really that much better for it? Franshise material now? Naaahhh, why is Allen any different? Let the kid play he will either sink or swim. Enough of this sit and learn crap

 

Seriously?

 

With Dawkins now injured - I don't even want Allen starting in the Bengals game. Hell let McCarron get to finish his start with the 1st string. ?

 

Finding a franchise quarterback is not an easy task. Maybe, just maybe - we have found us one and some of you just want to toss him out to the wolves.

 

REALLY? 

 

I don't think I could stand listening to a bunch of you for the next 20 years while we are waiting for our next "unicorn" to come along.

 

FCOL

[Albany,n.y.]

38 minutes ago, vorpma said:

Still a really dumb post!

Go get Tasker a raise.  Do your job. 

Edited August 22, 2018 by Albany,n.y.

[keepthefaith]

4 hours ago, JPP said:

Peterman experience v Allen experience is not much at all.......Peterman only had 4 quarters of live NFL action i believe.....the 1st 2 quarters obviously a complete disaster......play Allen.....

 

This is not a vote for NP but he's also been through an entire season of prep and had several teachable moments last year.  It seems that he's made the most of that so far this camp.  Coaches will get a good look at both NP and JA Sunday. 

Edited August 22, 2018 by keepthefaith

[Prickly Pete]

They go to the same church.

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said:

 

Maybe because Peterman has been the best QB on the field for us so far this season...  

 

I personally think the guy will eventually be better than the likes of Kirk Cousins and a few other fringe talent QBs.  I just don't get all the hate towards him on this board.  Blah, blah, blah he threw 5 interceptions in a game....  who gives a flying FU3k.

 

 

Yeah, really.  Just focus on all the good he has done....

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

Defense wins Championships.

 

To win in the NFL you need to be able to run and stop the run.

 

You have to sit your rookie QB for a year.

 

Peterman has not been better than Allen.  Should have given up and easy pick six in the last game.  Not even including the Chargers game, he has thrown many balls that should have been picks.  His low velocity allows defenders to break on the ball more easily and this will lead to pick 6's.  The guy hit a wide open O'Leary on a 10 yard pass and O'Leary took it to the house, yet people are acting like he threw a touch pass over O'Leary's shoulder.  Sorry but he is not good.  He can manage a game here in there, but if you start Nate Peterman, you are going to have a rough year.

 

 

[Buftex]

5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day.  

This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman.  

He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.  

 

I haven't read every response in this thread, so forgive me if this has already been said...I agree with what you are saying in regards to Taskers' take on Peterman.  I also noticed, after the first preseason game, that Murphy was really adamant that he was all in on Allen starting week 1, verses Baltimore.  It seemed almost too contrived...if you have listened to the John Murphy Show/One Bills Live, you would expect Murphy to be the one saying "they should work Allen in slowly"...and Taskers' gushing over Peterman has been a little over the top...though, I do think Peterman has played pretty well...it just seemed that there has been a conscious attempt on that radio show, since Tasker joined, to help Murphy shake his "stick in the mud" persona, which really was pronounced when Donald Jones was the co-host.  Each of them having a different opinion on who should start, seems to be an attempt to create more "lively" discussions on the QB situation...which takes up about 86% of the shows content.  It would be pretty boring (or more boring some would argue) if they both agreed.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Buftex

[hemma]

Peterman has had a strong camp, but Allen is improving quickly.

 

Allen plays well this Sunday, he's the man.

If he doesn't, he'll just be delayed a bit, that's all.

 

I'm ok with it either way.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

48 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

They go to the same church.

 

Thats my guess.. church buddies. 

[Prickly Pete]

58 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I haven't read every response in this thread, so forgive me if this has already been said....  Each of them having a different opinion on who should start, seems to be an attempt to create more "lively" discussions on the QB situation...which takes up about 86% of the shows content.  It would be pretty boring (or more boring some would argue) if they both agreed.

 

This.

[ndirish1978]

7 hours ago, nucci said:

so it's ok to get killed in game 5 or ok for Peterman to get killed?

 

I would prefer he not have to face the Ravens in Baltimore, Chargers with sick pass rushers even at home, Vikings in Minny and Packers in Green Bay while standing behind 4 human speed bumps and Dawkins. If I'm being honest I'd rather keep him out til week 7 and avoid the Texans as well, though I dunno if Peterman and McCarron will be alive then.  

[Buffaloflash]

5 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Correction. He threw five interceptions in half a game.

So What!

So we're to believe that every game he plays in,he's going to throw 5 interceptions?

[Buffaloflash]

2 hours ago, OJ Tom said:

They go to the same church.

That sounds like a good thing.

[keepthefaith]

1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

I would prefer he not have to face the Ravens in Baltimore, Chargers with sick pass rushers even at home, Vikings in Minny and Packers in Green Bay while standing behind 4 human speed bumps and Dawkins. If I'm being honest I'd rather keep him out til week 7 and avoid the Texans as well, though I dunno if Peterman and McCarron will be alive then.  

 

Hope for Groy to start at center.  Bodine is a turnstile when pass blocking. 

[Prickly Pete]

49 minutes ago, Buffaloflash said:

That sounds like a good thing.

 

It's fine, except when it sways your opinion on who the starting QB should be. 

 

But I think Peterman blows. 

 

Good day.

 

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by OJ Tom

[ndirish1978]

2 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Hope for Groy to start at center.  Bodine is a turnstile when pass blocking. 

 

Hoping for Groy and Teller - Ducasse and Bodine are awful.

[Billsfanatixs]

10 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Correction. He threw five interceptions in half a game.

 

OOOoohhh with the...."He threw 5 picks thing",  if Peterman was a Patriot I would get it.

 

The dude was trying to play even though his own lineman was playing for the chargers that game.

[BullBuchanan]

12 hours ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

How much did McCarron learn from the bench?

 

I dont understand people who say "learn from the bench." If you learn so much from the bench, how come the rate of backups turning starters is so low?

 

If you like what you see from your rookie QB, you start him. If he's "RUINED" early on in his career and has his "confidence" hurt because of a few bad games, he has no business being an NFL QB in the first place.

 

Really depends on how you define "backup". If you're talking about QBs who sat a year or more turning into stars, well: Brady, Brees, Garoppolo, Cousins and maybe Taylor. then you have journeymen that have started a ton of games for full seasons like McCown, Hoyer, Siemian, Brissett. It's really not "rare" in any sense of the word. The majority of active starting QBs were drafted outside of the first round.

[BigDingus]

13 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day.  

This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman.  

He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.  

 

 

"Shill for Peterman?" Are you serious? That's like calling everyone on this board who want Allen to start, and post about it daily, "shilling" for Allen.

Can't people just have opinions? Tasker's are more educated & close to the situation than ours, so maybe, and I know this sounds crazy, MAYBE it's simply his opinion? So when the topic comes up (which it does DAILY), he's not going to flip his opinion, and state who he wants to start and why....

That's how those things work.

[nucci]

6 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

I would prefer he not have to face the Ravens in Baltimore, Chargers with sick pass rushers even at home, Vikings in Minny and Packers in Green Bay while standing behind 4 human speed bumps and Dawkins. If I'm being honest I'd rather keep him out til week 7 and avoid the Texans as well, though I dunno if Peterman and McCarron will be alive then.  

I don't see how you pick and choose which games Allen plays.

[FeelingOnYouboty]

To be fair Peterman has been really good in preseason and probably deserves to start. 

[eball]

17 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Throw Peterman to the wolves, not Allen. Ravens, Chargers, and Vikings will eat alive any Bills QB this year. 

 

17 hours ago, Direhard Fan said:

If it's between Peterman or Allen , I rather see Peterman just because he has the year experience.  Let Josh learn from the bench and don't get him killed the first year.  I worry about the "O" line letting that happen. 

 

17 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

I'd prefer Peterman or McCarron start the season just like him. I don't want Allen on the field with that terrible O-line for the first 4 games, he'll get killed.

 

Jesus Christ, such defeatist attitudes!  The Bills are actually allowed to gameplan for those contests, believe it or not!  Allen is the future AND the present.

[Johnnycage46]

18 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said:

 

Maybe because Peterman has been the best QB on the field for us so far this season...  

 

I personally think the guy will eventually be better than the likes of Kirk Cousins and a few other fringe talent QBs.  I just don't get all the hate towards him on this board.  Blah, blah, blah he threw 5 interceptions in a game....  who gives a flying FU3k.

 

Speaking only for myself, the 5 interceptions was awful but it is not the reason why I would rather the Bills start Allen over Peterman.  I think Peterman has the DNA that McD is always preaching, and I think he is overall an accurate QB, but I think his lack of top end arm strength makes it hard for him to effectively make all the throws necessary to be a starting QB in the NFL.  If he knows where to go with the ball and its on target, but doesn't have enough zip it allows DBs to more easily break on the ball.

 

I think the 5 interception narrative is just an easy way out for people who just want to say Peterman sucks.  I think Peterman could be a good QB in some systems that play to his strengths.  But after so many years I just want the Bills to have a QB that can play in any system.  By at least starting Allen this year and giving him a chance to see what he has, we can at least know if the Bills have that QB in Allen.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Johnnycage46

[MJS]

Tasker said yesterday that if Josh Allen gives you the best chance to win, start him. I think Tasker is skeptical that Allen as a rookie can come in and do that.

 

But I don't think he has been talking Peterman up all that much. Just stating his opinion like everyone else.

13 hours ago, Steptide said:

Murphys been pretty annoying about Allen Imo. Super Homer about him and the bills. I get it, they're bills employees, but still. 

 

No, homer would be "Trust the process, trust the coaches! McDermott will start Allen when he thinks he is ready!"

 

By Murphy pounding the table for Allen each week, he's doing the opposite. He's saying he doesn't agree with how the coaches are handling it. He'd rather Allen get as much experience in the preseason with the starters as possible.

 

Now, there are plenty of annoying things about Murphy AND Tasker, but people play the homer card on him too zealously, in my opinion. I think he comes to logical conclusions and his opinions are reasonable. But yeah, he is a fan of the team.

[artmalibu]

This week will be telling.... The 3rd preseason game being the dress rehearsal, both teams will be installing a game plan. This will tell us how ready Allen is. 

 

I am a big Peterman fan, but think he would be a lot easier to game plan for than Allen.   

[MAJBobby]

18 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

After the Cleveland game Tasker said on the TV broadcast he favored Peterman to start opening day.  

This whole week, all Tasker has been doing on his WGR show with Murphy is shill for Peterman.  

He's talked up Peterman more than the guy's agent would if he had a radio show.  

 

 

Well if you go by pure numbers. Peterman has been better this preseason. However it is clear that Allen is the better QB. 

 

I think Sunday it is Allen’s job to win or lose. 

 

He doesnt perform well Peterman gets the start. 

 

He Performs well the Josh Allen Era has begun. 

Edited August 23, 2018 by MAJBobby

[vorpma]

13 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Go get Tasker a raise.  Do your job. 

Wow, I'm impressed, you showed me!

7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Well if you go by pure numbers. Peterman has been better this preseason. However it is clear that Allen is the better QB. 

 

I think Sunday it is Allen’s job to win or lose. 

 

He doesnt perform well Peterman gets the start. 

 

He Performs well the Josh Allen Era has begun. 

Great post!

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

11 hours ago, Buffaloflash said:

So What!

So we're to believe that every game he plays in,he's going to throw 5 interceptions?

Ten.

15 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Now Tasker's agent chimes in. 

The Buffalo Destroyers don't exist anymore for EJ to be our QB today.  EJ's been sitting for a few years now and nobody in the NFL would want him as their starter.  The ruined a QB stuff is absolute nonsense.

Yeah. He's been sitting a few years AFTER St. Doug threw him to the wolves his rookie year.