BuffaloRush Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I went back and read some of the training camp over the past 3 years or so. It took me to the crazy 2016 camp which featured an alleged argument between Rex, Doug and Russ. The Arrival of The Dude Rob Ryan. Vic Carucci’s playoff ultimatum rumor (which appears to have been true). “Winning the off season.” And so much more. It made me take a second to think of Rex. Man, did Rex do some major damage in his stint with Buffalo. When he was hired in 2014, Rex was regarded as a “defensive mastermind” who routinely produced top ranked defenses. He was lauded as a good coach who got burned by ineffective GM’s who gave him subpar talent rosters and underachieving QB’s who never panned out. Despite this, Rex did the best he could with a limited roster and his teams always played hard for him. Some even considered Rex to one of the best coaches in the NFL, at worst he was thought of favorably in most circles. Fast forward to 3 years later and Rex was a laughing stock. He was a “clown show” who’s defense seemed antiquated, too complex, and not effective in the modern NFL. His reputation as a defensive guru vanished. In the two years since he’s been out of the NFL, I can’t remember anyone link him as a candidate for a job. So do you think that it’s over for Rex Ryan? Is it possible that he will charm his way back on the sidelines in the NFL citing his successes a decade ago and making excuses for his failures? Yes Rex has a sweet job at ESPN, but you can’t tell me he doesn’t want another shot at coaching. It’s been part of his life for such a long time, you don’t just shut that off. IMO I can’t see Rex coaching in the NFL. I think his reputation is too damaged for anyone to trust him as HC. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprised me to see someone try to hire him as a DC but I do think organizations are conscious of the “clown show” element he would bring. Also, would his ego allow him to go back to being a DC or position coach? The only way I see Rex coaching again is at the college level. I can definitely see him as a HC and given his personality, I think that might be his best bet to recoup his career. Maybe then after a few years of success he can get back to the NFL. What do you think??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I'm sure he could get a spot as a position coach but he might not be willing to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 No, next question.... 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Elite Poster said: I'm sure he could get a spot as a position coach but he might not be willing to do that. Agreed. That’s why I think he’s done unless he coaches college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I think he could easily coach again if he wanted. Certainly not a HC but I’m sure all it would take is a phone call and he’s have a job again pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) nope. He won't humble himself to take a position lower than HC. Edited August 15, 2018 by Circlethewagon8404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I think he could easily coach again if he wanted. Certainly not a HC but I’m sure all it would take is a phone call and he’s have a job again pretty quickly. I think so too....I think coaches would put him in at DC. But I don’t see any owner making him HC ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I think he could easily coach again if he wanted. Certainly not a HC but I’m sure all it would take is a phone call and he’s have a job again pretty quickly. You might be right but I am not so sure. Rex appears to be lazy and I don't see why a team would want him in any capacity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I think the problem with the defense is other teams figured it out, so he devised new ways to overcome it. Likely if you ran a computer simulation, his counter tactics would be very successful. But when you aks real people to carry it out, it became way to complex, particularly with reduced practice time which is part of today's NFL. Doubt he'll ever head coach again or even get a job as a DC, position coach, probably if he wanted it, but not sure he wants it that bad. I think his ship has sailed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Man, we have short memories around here. He has an antiquated style with a bombastic personality. No one is hiring him (or his brother) to coach football again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I think the problem with the defense is other teams figured it out, so he devised new ways to overcome it. Likely if you ran a computer simulation, his counter tactics would be very successful. But when you aks real people to carry it out, it became way to complex, particularly with reduced practice time which is part of today's NFL. Doubt he'll ever head coach again or even get a job as a DC, position coach, probably if he wanted it, but not sure he wants it that bad. I think his ship has sailed! And just to think....it ended in Buffalo Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Man, we have short memories around here. He has an antiquated style with a bombastic personality. No one is hiring him (or his brother) to coach football again. Not even as a DC or position coach? Guaranteed he gets a chance to coach D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: And just to think....it ended in Buffalo Not even as a DC or position coach? Guaranteed he gets a chance to coach D1 Nope, what he teaches is dead. I used to think recruiting was his thing. I don’t believe that anyone is hiring him. He is Lane Kiffin with a dead style. Kiffin is an idiot but will always have a job because what he does works. People will stomach his personality because the results are there. That’s no longer the case with Rex. What he used to do doesn’t work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The next Gruden? Jets take him back in 15 years after he annoys the hell out of all of us and both parties have hit rock bottom and have no where else to turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 If Wade Phillips can’t get a HC job with the excellent job across multiple organizations as a DC then there is no way in hell Rex will ever be an HC again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 All it takes is 1 owner or GM to buy his snake oil the way Russ and Pegula did. He can point to a "new owner" a "GM that was also shown the door" and whatever else to say it was a poor situation here. Heck, I thought Marrone was done. I never in a billion years would have guessed Joe Gibbs would come back to the Resskins after 12 years out of football. Or Dick Vermeil would come back after 15 years. Or Jon Gruden after a decade. Point being it may take time, but I think someone will hire fmthe clown again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: All it takes is 1 owner or GM to buy his snake oil the way Russ and Pegula did. He can point to a "new owner" a "GM that was also shown the door" and whatever else to say it was a poor situation here. Heck, I thought Marrone was done. I never in a billion years would have guessed Joe Gibbs would come back to the Resskins after 12 years out of football. Or Dick Vermeil would come back after 15 years. Or Jon Gruden after a decade. Point being it may take time, but I think someone will hire fmthe clown again. “Don’t let him leave the building” So glad Russ is not involved anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I want Rex to be the next DC or HC of NE** 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, next question.... ...never say no with CLEVELAND.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 NFL-No. However, he might get a shot in the new league (Alliance of American Football) if it lasts long enough to fire a coach or 2. They've got some interesting names coaching those teams, the old ball coach Steve Spurrier & Mike Martz are among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Maybe as a coordinator, but his ego won’t let himself take any job but a head coaching job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Hahahaha hahahaha haha ha ha.... Ahhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) I don’t get why people think he will get a defensive job? His defense doesn’t work anymore. We saw that first hand. It was a steady decline, he left, they were good again. The Ryan defense is a thing of the past. Edited August 16, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 It's laughable when you compare the clown show that was in town when Rex was here v.s. watching the command and respect McDermott has when watching the Bills Embedded special. I can't wait to see what the future holds for this organization 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) His scumbag brother has a worse track record as a DC than Rex. And it looks like he could be part of Miami's staff (PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN). I don't think Rex ever gets another HC gig. But if his scumbag brother can get a DC gig again, then Rex can, too. I'm just glad it will never be in Buffalo. Edited August 16, 2018 by Gugny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I don’t think we see Rex coaching in the NFL again. He has made a lot of money so far. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rex and Rob take over some NCAA program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Rex Ryan did some serious damage to the credibility of both Brandon (who didn't want to let him leave the building) and Whaley (who spoke of national brands and soulmates). Without him, maybe those guys would still be running the show. Thank you, Rex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said: Rex Ryan did some serious damage to the credibility of both Brandon (who didn't want to let him leave the building) and Whaley (who spoke of national brands and soulmates). Without him, maybe those guys would still be running the show. Thank you, Rex. Whaley wanted Hue Jackson. I’m not saying that would (or wouldn’t) have worked but he can’t be blamed for Rex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 He may want to. He may believe he was wronged by the Jets and Bills. But he was exposed as a fool. I don’t see any NFL GM, let alone an owner willing to offer him another opportunity. I hope he makes a good analysis personality. Certainly has the gab gift. now, these other pro Leagues popping up? Maybe. He can sell tickets! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 He was good for the Jets in like 2011. It was utterly mind boggling that we hired him. His Jets teams were god awful at the time. I think the season before we hired him, we destroyed the Jets by like 50 points each game. And we hire the guy? Unbelievable. that said, no, his career is done.. unless Russ Brandon finds a new job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Rex was a fraud (That we all bought into unfortunately), who benefited from having three of the best defensive players of all time (Lewis, Reed, Revis) to cover up his system's flaws. That's it. He's done in the NFL. He's too much of a circus to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I still contend Ryan was fine as an in-game HC. If he had just kept Schwartz he would still be the HC now and Whaley probably is still the GM. All he had to do was add a few blitz packages to what Schwartz and the D would have been great. Whaley could have continued to focus on QB and the offense, instead of finding players to fit Ryan's defense. Zero chance he gets a HC job in the NFL. I do think a college job is possible at someplace like Kansas or Washington State. Some low tier school in a big conference looking for a spark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I could see the Texans owner hiring him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 in the NFL ? no way maybe college I say he stays doing what he does best....talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Don't know, don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 DC yup definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Nope. But if it does happen, hope it's in our division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said: Nope. But if it does happen, hope it's in our division. Belichick's replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Who cares? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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