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42 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I can't believe people here are arguing about Tyrod Taylor. Need a good reminder? Go watch the saints game from last year 

Not to mention that when the regular season starts, he will see stacked box against the Steelers,Ravens and Bengals x2.  Good luck with that. He may be wishing he was still here.

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2 hours ago, QB Bills said:

Different OC every year he was here. Garbage/injuries at the WR position. Horsesh*t for an offensive line. And stayed classy all the way.

 

For the life of me, I can't figure out why the city of buffalo didn't warm to him...

 

(Yes I can)

 

Do go on.

 

If you have it all figured out, I'd love to hear your take on it. 

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Mahomes completed just five of seven passes for 33 yards on two possessions versus the Texans.

 

Sticking to short passes, Mahomes' first drive lasted just four plays before ending with a punt. He fared no better in his second chance, stepping into a sack and overthrowing tight end Travis Kelce in another possession that resulted in a punt.

 

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3 hours ago, ThunderGun said:

Maybe if he didn't have super conservative OC's here in Buffalo... I love how 10-3 is on Tyrod and not that hot garbage of a "coordinator" Dennison... I bet you could count on one hand how many times Buffalo used pre-snap motion last year.

 

Not to mention they stripped him of any legitimate deep threat, and that is one of the things he does better than most.

I was a Tyrod supporter his entire time here. I argued in his favor from the start of preseason in 2015, and I am rooting for him to succeed in Cleveland.

 

I agree with most of what you are saying, and I wasn’t trying to argue that Tyrod was at fault for the inept offense last year. 

 

I was only talking about 1 specific issue and I think my criticism was valid - Tyrod did struggle making quick passes like that during his time in Buffalo. 

 

I’m not really sure you can put that specific problem on the OC.

I highly doubt that Dennison, who runs (or wanted to run) a west coast style offense predicated on quick timing passes, was telling Tyrod not to take a 3 step drop and fire the ball. 

 

From what I remember of what was reported, that was actually something Dennison was pushing Tyrod to do. 

And when Peterman played, we seen more of the quick passing game. 

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What should have been over a while ago, has reared its head with another  thread involving Tyrod Taylor.

 

TT No. 1 on the Cleveland Browns depth chart over its #1 draft choice, last night was 5 of 5, 99 yards, 1 TD,

and don't you just know it, the Bills face Taylor next up. You couldn't make this up.  As much as the majority

wanted to run Taylor out of town, and did, the opposite is true now in Cleveland.

 

Let the mind games begin with next week's performance, and hopefully we will not have to put up with it, the rest

of the year.   

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And, Taylor went 12/13 for 122 yards against the Steelers in the 2015 week 3 of the preseason....you know, the dress rehearsal game?

 

In other words, who cares what he did last night.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Foreigner said:

What should have been over a while ago, has reared its head with another  thread involving Tyrod Taylor.

 

TT No. 1 on the Cleveland Browns depth chart over its #1 draft choice, last night was 5 of 5, 99 yards, 1 TD,

and don't you just know it, the Bills face Taylor next up. You couldn't make this up.  As much as the majority

wanted to run Taylor out of town, and did, the opposite is true now in Cleveland.

 

Let the mind games begin with next week's performance, and hopefully we will not have to put up with it, the rest

of the year.   

Pot calls kettle black

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26 minutes ago, Foreigner said:

What should have been over a while ago, has reared its head with another  thread involving Tyrod Taylor.

 

TT No. 1 on the Cleveland Browns depth chart over its #1 draft choice, last night was 5 of 5, 99 yards, 1 TD,

and don't you just know it, the Bills face Taylor next up. You couldn't make this up.  As much as the majority

wanted to run Taylor out of town, and did, the opposite is true now in Cleveland.

 

Let the mind games begin with next week's performance, and hopefully we will not have to put up with it, the rest

of the year.   

 

lol. Hey if Tyrod has a great season...good for him. Class act. I think from Tyrods performance yesterday, he was about the same. Solid. Jarvis made a good grab. Njoku got open. TD. 

 

Baker very impressive as well. 

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26 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

TT will look fine next week against Vanilla D because he always does, but when he’s schemed against, he’s usually beat and that’s why he’s gone.

 

debate over.

They schemed so well against him he led his nationally **** on team to the playoffs. Such a terrible QB. Winning is for the birds

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Honestly I wish TT the best- he’s not a bad guy and was always a class act while here. He deserves success- as long as it isn’t against us that is. I hope he does well and can improve his game.

 

there is no reason anyone here should wish him unwell or hope he is unsuccessful. Good dude, good teammate, and ultimately we just needed a change. Better for both parties.

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28 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

TT will look fine next week against Vanilla D because he always does, but when he’s schemed against, he’s usually beat and that’s why he’s gone.

 

debate over.

 

Taylor's gone because of a confluence of events:

 

- Strongest QB class in years... maybe since 1983

-Extra 1st round draft pick as draft capital

-The slide up the draft continued moving up to #12 by trading Cordy Glenn

-We were offered the 1st pick of the 3rd round for him, providing sufficient confidence to Beane and McDermott we could trade up (or not) to get one of the best QBs in the draft

 

Those are the reasons Taylor's gone.  If this were the QB draft class of 2013 all over again, Taylor would still be in Buffalo.

 

 

Taylor's in a better situation and so are the Bills.  It's win/win.  This doesn't have to even be a debate for that simple reason.

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4 minutes ago, Gigs said:

They schemed so well against him he led his nationally **** on team to the playoffs. Such a terrible QB. Winning is for the birds

This is what people actually believe. 

 

TT is a .500 QB. He barely scored the football last year.

 

Sam Bradford was traded for a first 2 years back and he’s never won anything. TT “led his team to the playoffs as a winner” and got traded for a third to the worst team in football. Time to give it up.

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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Taylor's gone because of a confluence of events:

 

- Strongest QB class in years... maybe since 1983

-Extra 1st round draft pick as draft capital

-The slide up the draft continued moving up to #12 by trading Cordy Glenn

-We were offered the 1st pick of the 3rd round for him, providing sufficient confidence to Beane and McDermott we could trade up (or not) to get one of the best QBs in the draft

 

Those are the reasons Taylor's gone.  If this were the QB draft class of 2013 all over again, Taylor would still be in Buffalo.

 

 

Taylor's in a better situation and so are the Bills.  It's win/win.  This doesn't have to even be a debate for that simple reason.

Mostly agreed. Taylor was never McD’s guy for the most part either. He was kept around because they didn’t draft anybody in 2017, which I guess is understandable.

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6 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Honestly I wish TT the best- he’s not a bad guy and was always a class act while here. He deserves success- as long as it isn’t against us that is. I hope he does well and can improve his game.

 

there is no reason anyone here should wish him unwell or hope he is unsuccessful. Good dude, good teammate, and ultimately we just needed a change. Better for both parties.

Yeh well I hope he's unsuccessful, being that he plays for another team in the AFC. 

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41 minutes ago, Foreigner said:

What should have been over a while ago, has reared its head with another  thread involving Tyrod Taylor.

 

TT No. 1 on the Cleveland Browns depth chart over its #1 draft choice, last night was 5 of 5, 99 yards, 1 TD,

and don't you just know it, the Bills face Taylor next up. You couldn't make this up.  As much as the majority

wanted to run Taylor out of town, and did, the opposite is true now in Cleveland.

 

Let the mind games begin with next week's performance, and hopefully we will not have to put up with it, the rest

of the year.   

The best way to make Tyrod threads go away isn't to start a new one of your own.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Foreigner said:

What should have been over a while ago, has reared its head with another  thread involving Tyrod Taylor.

 

TT No. 1 on the Cleveland Browns depth chart over its #1 draft choice, last night was 5 of 5, 99 yards, 1 TD,

and don't you just know it, the Bills face Taylor next up. You couldn't make this up.  As much as the majority

wanted to run Taylor out of town, and did, the opposite is true now in Cleveland.

 

Let the mind games begin with next week's performance, and hopefully we will not have to put up with it, the rest

of the year.   

No and we did not need another thread about Tyrod either.

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1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

And, Taylor went 12/13 for 122 yards against the Steelers in the 2015 week 3 of the preseason....you know, the dress rehearsal game?

 

In other words, who cares what he did last night.

 

 

 

Tell that to the people anointing Nathan Peterman the new king of the NFL and untradeable in the division off of one good drive in the first preseason game of the year against junior high defensive schemes.

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4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Tell that to the people anointing Nathan Peterman the new king of the NFL and untradeable in the division off of one good drive in the first preseason game of the year against junior high defensive schemes.

 

You tell that to them. Am I your servant?

 

This is a thread about TT.

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8 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

You tell that to them. Am I your servant?

 

This is a thread about TT.

 

This is a Bills forum not a Browns forum.  TT isnt a Bill, so you posted this in the wrong forum. 

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1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

And, Taylor went 12/13 for 122 yards against the Steelers in the 2015 week 3 of the preseason....you know, the dress rehearsal game?

 

In other words, who cares what he did last night.

 

 

I remember that game. He made throws he's just to scared to make in games. It was SOOOO refreshing watching 3 QBs throw with anticipation last night and actually give their targets a chance to make a play.

Taylor only passes when a guy is wide open , it was so infuriating week after week. I truly like him as a person and am rooting for him but these are characteristics that can't be coached , it's not going to change at this point in his career..

 

it could be a circus and could get ugly if Dez signs and isn't getting touches.. lol.. 

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17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This is a Bills forum not a Browns forum.  TT isnt a Bill, so you posted this in the wrong forum. 

 

I see I’m having a debate with an intellectual giant. Since this is a Bills forum maybe we should take it to the big blue boards.

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