Incognito says he wants to play this year and Vikings called him

[ColoradoBills]

9 minutes ago, Utah John said:

It's always been clear that Incognito has a screw loose, but that didn't stop him from being an outstanding player for the Bills.  I think this commotion all started with the Bills telling him he needed to take a big pay cut, immediately after another Pro Bowl season.  I never understood the Bills' thinking on this, unless they were just trying to get him to quit, but why you'd do that with a great player is beyond me.

 

Richie has serious issues, no doubt, but he's being treated pretty shabbily in my opinion, instead of getting support and help.

 

The latest crazy train started with the Jacksonville playoff game.

[Doc]

Glad the Bills got the last three good and relatively drama-free seasons from him ever.  And glad the Bills withheld $1M from him.   

[nedboy7]

37 minutes ago, Doc said:

Glad the Bills got the last three good and relatively drama-free seasons from him ever.  And glad the Bills withheld $1M from him.   

 

You don't think he would instantly make our line better for one more mil? 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

looks more like he texted Sparano and the coach was just being nice making small talk

 

 

This girl texted me the other day, even though she only said hi, it was clear she wanted way more!

 

even time he tweet, it’s like a cry for help.  He’s one of those guys who will be completely lost with football.  I can’t say I was a big fan of the guy but I feel like it’s going to be sad hearing news about him.

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

You don't think he would instantly make our line better for one more mil? 

 

Maybe but that ship has sailed. 

[Irv]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The latest crazy train started with the Jacksonville playoff game.

 

Agree.  Let's not forget his second (alleged) racist comments to another player.     Gonna be a real hard sell, as it should be,  to any GM in the current take-a-knee NFL environment.

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Irv

[BillsBytheBay]

4 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Don't botch when Miller gets owned week in and week out. Chris Brown said Redmond is going to get more reps at LG because Miller isn't cutting it,.we don't need no stinking pro bowler  since we are so strong at the guard spot.

We also don't want anyone who tosses weights at folks, or has delusions. 

(And not mocking the guy....  I'm talking real mental health issues)

55 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

You don't think he would instantly make our line better for one more mil? 

The guy isn't the same guy he was last year.  The guy has obvious issues.  He needs to be seeking help, not football.

Edited August 7, 2018 by JaxBills

[aristocrat]

Guy is not gonna make it in normal life. It’s like we’re watching a slow motion wreck

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

Batshit crazy.

 

 

I can certainly see the humorous side of this, but I really hope he gets his mind in order. The guy has.......an issue or two..... Yikes! 

[Gugny]

32 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I can certainly see the humorous side of this, but I really hope he gets his mind in order. The guy has.......an issue or two..... Yikes! 

 

Definitely, Augie.  There's no doubt the dude needs help and I hope he gets what he needs.

[Steptide]

I honestly think incognito is just messing with everyone. I think he finds it funny. Good example of how that whole situation in Miami may have happened 

[Best Player Available]

3 hours ago, brianthomas said:

After 5 minutes of google searches Carmen Dickman was on a series called The Chive. Apparently in 2017 they were reported to be dating. Here's a picture of her: Ironically she's been on a podcast for dysfunctional relationships... Go figure lol http://thechive.com/2013/07/25/carmen-is-definitely-the-chivette-of-the-week-28-hq-photos/

Feel sorry for this woman. She most likely should get a restraining order. This dude is poised to lose it big time. 

 

2 weeks ago,he said he RETIRED from the nfl to.focus on his anti- bullying efforts. 

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Definitely, Augie.  There's no doubt the dude needs help and I hope he gets what he needs.

 

Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be the downer, but WTH? Does he have family or even an agent in the picture. For some reason he seems all alone to me. That could be far from the truth. Having said that, I know all too well that they’d have very limited influence anyway, but I’d feel better if I knew somebody was trying to get him help and keep him on the right and healthy path. And not just some mysterious FBI agent.   ?

[Gugny]

57 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be the downer, but WTH? Does he have family or even an agent in the picture. For some reason he seems all alone to me. That could be far from the truth. Having said that, I know all too well that they’d have very limited influence anyway, but I’d feel better if I knew somebody was trying to get him help and keep him on the right and healthy path. And not just some mysterious FBI agent.   ?

 

After spending a few days in NYC with my son, I'm sad to see so many mentally ill people alone.  I hope Incognito has some sort of support system.  Having money isn't the answer, although it could be part of the answer if he wants the help.  Something tells me he's not a guy who's easy to reason with/one who readily takes others' advice.  I thought the FBI agent thing would be a wake up call for him, but apparently, it was not.  Sad.

[Happy]

Welp, this won't end well for Richie, calling the Vikings HC a &$*#ing liar:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/richie-incognito-called-mike-zimmer-f-liar-denying-vikings-interest-signing-221611188.html

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

 

You don't think he would instantly make our line better for one more mil? 

 

No.  They will be fine.

 

2 hours ago, Steptide said:

I honestly think incognito is just messing with everyone. I think he finds it funny. Good example of how that whole situation in Miami may have happened 

 

WTF?

[Misterbluesky]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I can certainly see the humorous side of this, but I really hope he gets his mind in order. The guy has.......an issue or two..... Yikes! 

He's a "player",Aug.He likes toying with people's minds. If you want to see some fellas with issues,go visit some combat vets at your local VS hospital.

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

He's a "player",Aug.He likes toying with people's minds. If you want to see some fellas with issues,go visit some combat vets at your local VS hospital.

That too. I won’t minimize any of that stuff. Regardless of age, net worth, etc. It’s all sad. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Ol Dirty B]

11 hours ago, vanhalen26 said:

I don’t think it’s so funny, I think he’s battling mental illness and hopefully gets help.  Who knows, given all the head bumping at his postition - could be caused by football.

 

He was whacked by college. Granted mental illness is nothing to joke about that, and maybe it has always been an issue for him.

 

He just has always came across as someone who was raised poorly to me. Idk if mental illness makes you fondle cart girls at a golf course. But I guess no one is actually responsible for the things they do anymore. We can just chalk it up to mental illness and now they're a sympathetic figure.

8 hours ago, Utah John said:

It's always been clear that Incognito has a screw loose, but that didn't stop him from being an outstanding player for the Bills.  I think this commotion all started with the Bills telling him he needed to take a big pay cut, immediately after another Pro Bowl season.  I never understood the Bills' thinking on this, unless they were just trying to get him to quit, but why you'd do that with a great player is beyond me.

 

Richie has serious issues, no doubt, but he's being treated pretty shabbily in my opinion, instead of getting support and help.

 

I'm not saying your inconsistent, perhaps you felt this way with Dareus or other players.

 

But I do honestly wonder if he'd be received as a sympathetic figure by Bills fans if her were black. Dareus also has mental health issues in my opinion and instead of support, he got ran out of town and ripped for making the money he did.

 

A similar sentiment came up when a poster made a thread about if the NFL can make contracts guaranteed due to the head injuries and potential the game has in making life difficult by 30s and 40s.

 

I was repeatedly told, why should we feel sorry for millionaires just because the billionaires won't pay them more money.

 

And yet every Ritchie thread their are posters who cast him as a sympathetic figure.

 

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by Ol Dirty B

[Turk71]

8 hours ago, Steptide said:

I honestly think incognito is just messing with everyone. I think he finds it funny. Good example of how that whole situation in Miami may have happened 

That would be nice if true, unfortunately he has been a pos for a long time. Check out his history in college. Myself, I think he was roid raging it through high school and college and exacerbated his mental problems.

  

Edited August 8, 2018 by Turk71

[Troll Toll]

1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

He was whacked by college. Granted mental illness is nothing to joke about that, and maybe it has always been an issue for him.

 

He just has always came across as someone who was raised poorly to me. Idk if mental illness makes you fondle cart girls at a golf course. But I guess no one is actually responsible for the things they do anymore. We can just chalk it up to mental illness and now they're a sympathetic figure.

 

I'm not saying your inconsistent, perhaps you felt this way with Dareus or other players.

 

But I do honestly wonder if he'd be received as a sympathetic figure by Bills fans if her were black. Dareus also has mental health issues in my opinion and instead of support, he got ran out of town and ripped for making the money he did.

 

A similar sentiment came up when a poster made a thread about if the NFL can make contracts guaranteed due to the head injuries and potential the game has in making life difficult by 30s and 40s.

 

I was repeatedly told, why should we feel sorry for millionaires just because the billionaires won't pay them more money.

 

And yet every Ritchie thread their are posters who cast him as a sympathetic figure.

 

 

Incognito put forth a tremendous effort on the field, was way underpaid,  and did bizarre “not all there” things like accuse someone in a weight room of being a spy, then chasing him around and throwing a dumbbell at him. 

 

Dareus was lazy on the field, whined about only being offered $90 million from Bills, and made extremely selfish decisions like street racing and nearly killing people and now apparently intentionally spreading STDs.

 

Richie appears to be legitimately whacked out, while Dareus faced traumatic emotional experiences but still consciously makes extremely selfish choices.

 

[Tsaikotic]

looks like Richie has changed his personality again...his twitter went from "Richie Incognito" to "Richard Dominick Incognito" and is now back to just "Richie Incognito"...this at the same time as apologizing for the Zimmer remarks....maybe its a split personality??

 

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by Tsaikotic

[row_33]

He has our best wishes on his future endeavours 

[CommonCents]

5 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

He was whacked by college. Granted mental illness is nothing to joke about that, and maybe it has always been an issue for him.

 

He just has always came across as someone who was raised poorly to me. Idk if mental illness makes you fondle cart girls at a golf course. But I guess no one is actually responsible for the things they do anymore. We can just chalk it up to mental illness and now they're a sympathetic figure.

 

I'm not saying your inconsistent, perhaps you felt this way with Dareus or other players.

 

But I do honestly wonder if he'd be received as a sympathetic figure by Bills fans if her were black. Dareus also has mental health issues in my opinion and instead of support, he got ran out of town and ripped for making the money he did.

 

A similar sentiment came up when a poster made a thread about if the NFL can make contracts guaranteed due to the head injuries and potential the game has in making life difficult by 30s and 40s.

 

I was repeatedly told, why should we feel sorry for millionaires just because the billionaires won't pay them more money.

 

And yet every Ritchie thread their are posters who cast him as a sympathetic figure.

 

 

Sympathetic figure? He is getting roasted by the overwhelming majority of the board for being a jack ass. He came here on a minimal deal as a reclamation project, his situation is in no way comparable to Dareus. 

 

Nice try. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

He doesn't need football, he needs to be committed to a mental health facility.

And someone to change his Twitter password.

32 minutes ago, row_33 said:

He has our best wishes on his future endeavours 

Aha!  You're a communications spokesperson for a large multinational corporation.  ?

[Dablitzkrieg]

The guy is clearly a sick man, appears to have symptoms of Bipolar DO.  But man, he cycles quickly.  Hopefully he can get some help

[teef]

15 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

 

You don't think he would instantly make our line better for one more mil? 

do you really not understand why the bills moved on from him?  

[BillsBytheBay]

9 hours ago, Troll Toll said:

Incognito put forth a tremendous effort on the field, was way underpaid,  and did bizarre “not all there” things like accuse someone in a weight room of being a spy, then chasing him around and throwing a dumbbell at him. 

 

Dareus was lazy on the field, whined about only being offered $90 million from Bills, and made extremely selfish decisions like street racing and nearly killing people and now apparently intentionally spreading STDs.

 

Richie appears to be legitimately whacked out, while Dareus faced traumatic emotional experiences but still consciously makes extremely selfish choices.

 

And neither are Bills now.  And rightly so.  They are apples to oranges, but in the end, both bad bets now.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Guy is not gonna make it in normal life. It’s like we’re watching a slow motion wreck

 

Agree.  After the JMart affair, Incognito initially acted out (Ferrari), then apparently sought and completed some serious rehab/mental health treatment.  We didn't hear much of anything from him during that time away from football.

 

This time he seems to be cruising down a river in Egypt (denial), not getting the help he needs, and basically being self-destructive in various ways.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

11 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

He was whacked by college. Granted mental illness is nothing to joke about that, and maybe it has always been an issue for him.

 

He just has always came across as someone who was raised poorly to me. Idk if mental illness makes you fondle cart girls at a golf course. But I guess no one is actually responsible for the things they do anymore. We can just chalk it up to mental illness and now they're a sympathetic figure.

 

I'm not saying your inconsistent, perhaps you felt this way with Dareus or other players.

 

But I do honestly wonder if he'd be received as a sympathetic figure by Bills fans if her were black. Dareus also has mental health issues in my opinion and instead of support, he got ran out of town and ripped for making the money he did.

 

A similar sentiment came up when a poster made a thread about if the NFL can make contracts guaranteed due to the head injuries and potential the game has in making life difficult by 30s and 40s.

 

I was repeatedly told, why should we feel sorry for millionaires just because the billionaires won't pay them more money.

 

And yet every Ritchie thread their are posters who cast him as a sympathetic figure.

 

I seem to remember a lot of sympathy for Dareus.  After the first suspension, the drag racing right before he signed a big contract.  He's young, we said.  He's adrift, we said.  He's suffered incredible loss in his life, all those people in his family or close to him being killed or dying.  That's got to mess with a kid's mind.  He's gonna turn the corner, so let's celebrate "Mr Big Stuff"s big contract.

 

Even after the disappointing 2015 season and the 2016 4 game suspension when the statement was issued that he had decided to seek help and enter a rehab facility, I remember a lot of folks being sympathetic. 

 

Only then it came out, "Cap Hat"s idea of rehab was partying down on Chippewa followed by hanging out in Virginia Beach with Bruce Smith, and he came back and mailed it in.

2017: Out of shape, late for meetings, violating team rules, said to be sleeping in meetings, visibly taking plays off.  All of that sharply eroded Dareus sympathy base in Buffalo.

 

In contrast, while he was here, no one had anything bad to say about the effort or team participation that Incognito put in.  He was all in, all the time, every play, never a word about him being late or missing busses or sleeping through meetings.

 

If Dareus had gone to rehab as he said he would, sought mental health treatment (as Cog did when he was out of the league after JMart) and then put in 100% effort with the team and on the field, his off field issues would probably be viewed more sympathetically.    Right now, with Ritchie missing a few Cogs and acting out, he isn't garnering a lot of sympathy that I see and if he acted like that and were still here, I don't think he'd get any.  The boy is cray-cray and we want him to "seek professional help"

 

 

[jr1]

he should've just accepted the pay cut

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, teef said:

do you really not understand why the bills moved on from him?  

 

When that kind of crazy gets on the field in front of a RB good things still happen. 

[teef]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

When that kind of crazy gets on the field in front of a RB good things still happen. 

oh of course.  the problem is keeping the crazy contained before and after the games.

[GreggTX]

We just don't know the whole story, but this is hardly the 1st time Richie has acted wacky for no apparent reason. I thought he was doing better, but I guess not. The accusations after the JAX playoff game still resonate here.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 minutes ago, teef said:

oh of course.  the problem is keeping the crazy contained before and after the games.

 

I get it- it’s over with cog, because it was going to be over.

 

He took a pay cut then regretted it probably because he was all over the place in his own mind.

 

The sheer fact the bills took that line says they were willing to risk hard feelings and flat out rejection. It just came later 

 

Hope the front office knows how to assemble an o-line. After Dawkins I’m not loving what I see

 

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[teef]

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

I get it- it’s over with cog, because it was going to be over.

 

He took a pay cut then regretted it probably because he was all over the place in his own mind.

 

The sheer fact the bills took that line says they were willing to risk hard feelings and flat out rejection. It just came later 

 

Hope the front office knows how to assemble an o-line. After Dawkins I’m not loving what I see

 

 

don't get me wrong...i was a cogs fan.  he was able to help this team at a very high level for a few years, and that appreciated.  the bills saw something going on and approached it wisely.  i'm not sure if he's acting out because there's no football, or if they saw something as just decided to part ways.  either way it looks to be the right move.  i mean, the guy is looking for work, only to lie about the teams that he's talked to, then makes a comment about how he doesn't want to be at camp.  he's not right at this point.

[row_33]

6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

 

Aha!  You're a communications spokesperson for a large multinational corporation.  ?

 

Read enough resignation and axing statements to still find it amusing the lengths they go to sugar coat it

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

27 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Read enough resignation and axing statements to still find it amusing the lengths they go to sugar coat it

Agreed and understood.  Anybody who has any inkling as to the situation generally reads the statement and says "Oh f*** right off!"  Lost a really good foreman to politics years ago; the statement said he had 'decided to pursue other ventures'.  I think missy in HR was given a pamphlet on writing professional looking notices.

Edited August 8, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

57 minutes ago, teef said:

don't get me wrong...i was a cogs fan.  he was able to help this team at a very high level for a few years, and that appreciated.  the bills saw something going on and approached it wisely.  i'm not sure if he's acting out because there's no football, or if they saw something as just decided to part ways.  either way it looks to be the right move.  i mean, the guy is looking for work, only to lie about the teams that he's talked to, then makes a comment about how he doesn't want to be at camp.  he's not right at this point.

 

Oh yeah- he went apechit on Zimmer

 

... its like watch CTE happen over a live twitter feed