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9 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Actually, they may be.  Depends on what the DA wants to do, and what the grand jury decides.

 

Any decent DA would take those charges to a grand jury.  And a grand jury might very well indict and let a trial jury decide.  Given the hypothetical you stated, of course.  

 

There's a saying "if they want the case, a good DA can persuade a grand jury to indict a Ham Sandwich".     But not too many Grand Jury indictments take place when the DA doesn't want the case - which doesn't necessarily mean the DA doesn't think it happened. 

 

DAs like to have winning records.  They don't want to move forward with prosecuting a case if they don't think the evidence is there to persuade a jury.

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1 minute ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Pretty sure there are court papers asking her to leave, and I'm pretty sure the MULTIPLE previous evictions indicates that, yes, she is in fact, a squatter...

 

It's all PR spin by counsel to create public sentiment in her client's favor.

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On 7/10/2018 at 8:33 AM, uticaclub said:

That was a bar fight, it was 2 guys that happened to be off duty officers.

 

 

I have had issues myself with off duty cops who got drunk and started crap. Cops seem to think because they are cops they can get drunk and be jerks to people and cause problems. Sometimes you need to put them in their place with a good ass kicking. Being a cop doesn't give them a right to get drunk and start **** and it should give them the right to break laws. I don't care what someone does for a living, if you're gonna be a jerk and start something you're gonna get cracked in the head.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be mistaken as I'm not an attorney, but I think that's where the "defamation per se" or statements "presumed to be defamatory" part comes in.

 

If you assert that someone is involved in criminal activity, domestic violence, child abuse, sexual assault of a minor, professional negligence, etc the "have to prove knowingly made false claims" bit doesn't apply.    It's presumed to be defamatory, and the plaintiff has to provide proof that it's true.

 

https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/what-is-defamation-per-se-.html

 

I mean, it kind of makes sense - if I say you're involved in those things, that's considered so harmful to your reputation that "oh, hey, I didn't know it was a false statement, I really didn't mean anything" should not be accepted as an excuse.  There better be some evidence to justify your statements.

 

 

 

 

No one is arguing that.  Not me at least.

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3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's all PR spin by counsel to create public sentiment in her client's favor.

 

You're 100% right.  It's sad none the less, that ESPN just parrots what her counsel is saying as if it's fact.  There's almost no journalistic integrity today.

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1 minute ago, NewEraBills said:

 

Who said anything about stolen jewelry until now?  I don't ever recall the word "stolen" in any of the reports nor something that McCoy himself uttered.

 

I believe the statement should have referred to the jewelry stolen from the victim. 

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13 minutes ago, Yav said:

I have had issues myself with off duty cops who got drunk and started crap. Cops seem to think because they are cops they can get drunk and be jerks to people and cause problems. Sometimes you need to put them in their place with a good ass kicking. Being a cop doesn't give them a right to get drunk and start **** and it should give them the right to break laws. I don't care what someone does for a living, if you're gonna be a jerk and start something you're gonna get cracked in the head.

 

No doubt police officers sometimes get out of line.


The solution, though, it not a good ass kicking.  

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14 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Pretty sure there are court papers asking her to leave, and I'm pretty sure the MULTIPLE previous evictions indicates that, yes, she is in fact, a squatter...

 

Not to mention she was in Europe and Dubai for pretty much of all June.  Looks like she tried real hard to find a house.

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19 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Pretty sure there are court papers asking her to leave, and I'm pretty sure the MULTIPLE previous evictions indicates that, yes, she is in fact, a squatter...

Maybe she was looking for a place across the Pond. I hear the Jags play there often and they have NFL players.

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10 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

No doubt police officers sometimes get out of line.


The solution, though, it not a good ass kicking.  

I was reading the quote in your post and was about to go up and say the same thing hahaha

 

The solution to most things is a good ass kicking

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3 minutes ago, njbuff said:

If nothing comes of this pertaining to McCoy, would the NFL still have legs to suspend McCoy?

 

I would think not, but Goodell is more "shady" than McCoy's nickname.

I wouldn't count out Goodell

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4 minutes ago, njbuff said:

If nothing comes of this pertaining to McCoy, would the NFL still have legs to suspend McCoy?

 

I would think not, but Goodell is more "shady" than McCoy's nickname.

Roethlisberger got 4 games without being charged, arrested, or convicted so who knows.

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26 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Pretty sure there are court papers asking her to leave, and I'm pretty sure the MULTIPLE previous evictions indicates that, yes, she is in fact, a squatter...

 

I would guess that her lawyer is saying:

 

1. She's never technically been a squatter because she's never unlawfully lived somewhere. The lawyer would argue she's always had a legal case for living where she lives.

2. That McCoy has never personally asked her to leave; hence all the references to other people doing things for him (i.e. a non-lawyer submitting legal papers to a minor, McCoy's mother taking things from the house without McCoy ever talking to Cordon, etc.

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6 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

Maybe she was looking for a place across the Pond. I hear the Jags play there often and they have NFL players.

 

The perfect solution would be for her to move in with Marcel Dareus.   That would be a match made in heaven...

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6 minutes ago, njbuff said:

If nothing comes of this pertaining to McCoy, would the NFL still have legs to suspend McCoy?

 

I would think not, but Goodell is more "shady" than McCoy's nickname.

 

So a random person says something on social media and that is going to be the basis for suspension?

 

if that is the case, you will have a lot of accusations against players to get them suspended.

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Just now, Ittakestime said:

 

So a random person says something on social media and that is going to be the basis for suspension?

 

if that is the case, you will have a lot of accusations against players to get them suspended.

 

Edelman got suspended without knowing what he got popped for.

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33 minutes ago, Yav said:

I have had issues myself with off duty cops who got drunk and started crap. Cops seem to think because they are cops they can get drunk and be jerks to people and cause problems. Sometimes you need to put them in their place with a good ass kicking. Being a cop doesn't give them a right to get drunk and start **** and it should give them the right to break laws. I don't care what someone does for a living, if you're gonna be a jerk and start something you're gonna get cracked in the head.

Exactly, cop, accountant, sales manager, construction worker, no matter the profession people get drunk, act like an ass, and need an ass kicking here and there 

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1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said:

I was laughing at the notion that people think that if it turns out shady was sending somebody to get stuff from his house, and that person took it upon themselves to go Scarface on the residents, it's as bad as what Rice did (which was awful).

 

If it comes out that McCoy sent people to do his collection work for him and didn't 100% make it clear that "no force...no one gets hurt", then I personally would kinda think what he did was worse than Rice.  Legally, I think it could also be considered worse.

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2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

 

What?  He got suspended for a failed test.

 

Edelman positive test was “triggered by a substance that wasn’t immediately recognizable, and there are scientists analyzing it.”

 

So he was suspended because they found something that nobody can identify.  If that happened to a Buffalo Bill, there would be a 152-page thread going within days of it happening.

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9 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

I would guess that her lawyer is saying:

 

1. She's never technically been a squatter because she's never unlawfully lived somewhere. The lawyer would argue she's always had a legal case for living where she lives.

2. That McCoy has never personally asked her to leave; hence all the references to other people doing things for him (i.e. a non-lawyer submitting legal papers to a minor, McCoy's mother taking things from the house without McCoy ever talking to Cordon, etc.

I read that statement and thought that she has no proof he asked her to leave with those specific forms of communication.  But that certainly doesn’t mean he didn’t ask her. I don’t see Shady as the type to type up a formal follow-up communication in an email after telling her to move out to her face, or on InstaSnapFaceChatGram.

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If it comes out that McCoy sent people to do his collection work for him and didn't 100% make it clear that "no force...no one gets hurt", then I personally would kinda think what he did was worse than Rice.  Legally, I think it could also be considered worse.

 

I would agree with this.  Rice absolutely shouldn't have done what he did but his seemed more impulsive and I wouldn't be surprised if alcohol was involved.

 

If McCoy did plan this out.....then it would be worse IMO.

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7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

So what now? Jeremy White already had Shady cut and thrown out of the league...................while waiting for the evidence.

I wouldn't worry about anything that clown has to say.

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5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If it comes out that McCoy sent people to do his collection work for him and didn't 100% make it clear that "no force...no one gets hurt", then I personally would kinda think what he did was worse than Rice.  Legally, I think it could also be considered worse.

This is starting to sound like a made for TV movie.....but I'm not sure if it'll be on Comedy Central or Lifetime...with all their other "I married a woman hater" feature length classics.

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47 minutes ago, Yav said:

I have had issues myself with off duty cops who got drunk and started crap. Cops seem to think because they are cops they can get drunk and be jerks to people and cause problems. Sometimes you need to put them in their place with a good ass kicking. Being a cop doesn't give them a right to get drunk and start **** and it should give them the right to break laws. I don't care what someone does for a living, if you're gonna be a jerk and start something you're gonna get cracked in the head.

I have an officer friend that has invited me out with other officer buddies..... I wont go anywhere with them anymore. they totally reinforce every stereotype I already had about cops.

 

I have very little doubt the officers in that incident a couple of years ago had it coming to them.

 

FTR I also train 3 different local state trooper/city police officers here at my gym and they are extremely kind people. so i'm not trying to bundle them all into that catergory. I just know first hand that some can be that "type"

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10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If it comes out that McCoy sent people to do his collection work for him and didn't 100% make it clear that "no force...no one gets hurt", then I personally would kinda think what he did was worse than Rice.  Legally, I think it could also be considered worse.

 

Not necessarily.

They would have to prove he intended for force/injuries to be in the equation, he doesn't have to prove that he said they weren't.

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