muppy Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 well what If her lawyer advised delicia to admit she has doubts wether or not he was involved to make her own client appear reasonable and with no real ax to grind against shady.....does this diffuse a lawsuit for libel against she OR her friend? I wonder how this will all play out but I think there will be redemption for Shady in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Is she backing down now? But Mia wants everyone to know she's NOT backing down -- and only pulled her post on the advice of Delicia's attorney. She has now published a NEW post calling LeSean "Shady" McCoy a liar. "For the record Delicia's lawyer forced me to remove that post. I stand by what I said," Mia wrote. "I've personally addressed @leseanmccoy on everything that was stated many many times over the years. Lie to these people if you want Shady, but you know I know everything. That's not new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, muppy said: well what If her lawyer advised delicia to admit she has doubts wether or not he was involved to make her own client appear reasonable and with no real ax to grind against shady.....does this diffuse a lawsuit for libel against she OR her friend? I wonder how this will all play out but I think there will be redemption for Shady in the end. Good point and I'm not sure since she specifically named McCoy in the 911 calls. Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: That's not new. I know...she wasn't backing down 3 days ago so I wonder if she's going to now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, KDS73 said: She was out of town in Virginia at the time. But even if she had been home, man up and handle your own problems. Don't send your moms to do it for you. Shady was obviously concerned that this bimbo would try and jam him up if he tried to get borrowed jewelry or his own house back. ???tried to get other people to take care of it so he couldn’t get in trouble. I’m not talking about the supposed robbery. 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Is she backing down now? But Mia wants everyone to know she's NOT backing down -- and only pulled her post on the advice of Delicia's attorney. She has now published a NEW post calling LeSean "Shady" McCoy a liar. "For the record Delicia's lawyer forced me to remove that post. I stand by what I said," Mia wrote. "I've personally addressed @leseanmccoy on everything that was stated many many times over the years. Lie to these people if you want Shady, but you know I know everything. Bimbos hang with bimbos not surprising ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Edited July 13, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Did not Ms Cordon say " it has something to do with my ex-boyfriend" on the 911 call? Although, I'd wonder who that is since McCoy seems to have been living in another reality for months maybe even a year +. So this is technically not the complete truth by Graham but in a way it is because Cordon never said it was him exactly. But she did say explicitly on that call that it has "something to do with my ex-boyfriend." "I feel like my boyfriend set me up." Edited July 13, 2018 by NewEraBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: She specifically said "ex-boyfriend" so is this semantics since she didn't say "Lesean McCoy" specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, ricojes said: It worked!!!! Cant argue with results! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: She specifically said "ex-boyfriend" so is this semantics since she didn't say "Lesean McCoy" specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: OK, thanks for the addition because I was like WTF, I know what I heard on that horrible call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, NewEraBills said: OK, thanks for the addition because I was like WTF, I know what I heard on that horrible call. They just don’t seem credible Edited July 13, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They just don’t seem credible This is her Attorney. http://www.tmgesq.com/index-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/civil-litigation/defamation-character-lawsuit-proving-harm.html "The most obvious negative consequence that a defamatory statement can cause is harm to your professional reputation. Perhaps you are a local businessperson and someone made a statement about you to others indicating that you did something dishonest. Such allegations might cause your customers to take their business elsewhere. Perhaps the statement caused your employer to doubt whether you should remain employed. Those are clear-cut examples of harm to your reputation in your professional community." If McCoy were to be suspended by the NFL or released by the Bills due to her friend's published statements and/or her own statements to police about McCoy setting up her pistol whipping/robbery, McCoy can sue them both for restoration of his character from defamatory statements. I believe the statements that were made are presumed to be defamatory (eg domestic violence, child and animal abuse) so he does not have to "prove" that they are, and that in those circumstances, it is not "up to" the defamed party to prove he is innocent of the defamation: the plaintiff (friend/Cordon) would have to provide evidence that the statements were true as a defense. That is why the woman, acting through her attorney, is busy dissociating herself from her friend's Instagram posts and backing away from her assertion to 911/police that McCoy set her up to be robbed. He would have to prove she knowing made false claims against him or his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDS73 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: Shady was obviously concerned that this bimbo would try and jam him up if he tried to get borrowed jewelry or his own house back. ???tried to get other people to take care of it so he couldn’t get in trouble. I’m not talking about the supposed robbery. I was referring to the incident where he sent his mom with a moving truck to (illegally) get all the furniture out of the house while the "bimbo" was out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I dont think it should be completely ignored that she could have set this up herself as a way to get back at Shady...women will do some pretty crazy things when they are upset amd while this would be an extreme example, it isnt out of the realm of possibilities she saw an opportunity at a big payday and took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: I dont think it should be completely ignored that she could have set this up herself as a way to get back at Shady...women will do some pretty crazy things when they are upset amd while this would be an extreme example, it isnt out of the realm of possibilities she saw an opportunity at a big payday and took it. So you're saying it's .......................... plausible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Full back pedal mode in effect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: So you're saying it's .......................... plausible? Only in a shared home... Your new avatar burns my eyes, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Yup Shadys gonna be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I think this deserved its own post. Mods disagreed. Breaking news from CBS Cordon in full retreat. Could still involve Shady, but looking good for him. Note, she says "no longer sure" - meaning she was and changed her mind. Why? What changed? I never thought Shady did it, could still be wrong, but I am betting on McCoy. Cordon's attorney Tanya Mitchell Graham told CBS News the jewelry were birthday presents from McCoy. Graham also said her client is no longer certain the NFL star was involved in the attack. The new information from Cordon's lawyer comes one after Graham told Mike Petchenik that her client has never accused McCoy of domestic violence. The news comes one day after Milton, Georgia police released incident reports from three separate calls to McCoy's residence dating from July 2017. Despite being called to the residence three times, Cordon and McCoy never accused one another of domestic violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Full back pedal mode in effect! Yeah, neither "said directly." The scum-sucking attorney just wrote a letter that suggested as strongly as possible that he was involved. To the point of stressing he wanted the jewelry back, he "suggested she could be robbed," he was suing her and trying to have her evicted, he tried to steal her stuff a month before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: This is her Attorney. http://www.tmgesq.com/index-1.html I found this on that page For several years, Attorney Tanya Mitchell Graham has been referred to as a "Pitbull in a Skirt" by many of her litigation clients. Finally, in April, 2011, Attorney Graham filed a formal application with the United States Patent and Trademark Office to trademark PITBULL IN A SKIRT for International Class 045 for attorney services. Attorney Graham holds the official trademark for PITBULL IN A SKIRT\, SERIAL NUMBER: 85303062. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, Starr Almighty said: I found this on that page For several years, Attorney Tanya Mitchell Graham has been referred to as a "Pitbull in a Skirt" by many of her litigation clients. Finally, in April, 2011, Attorney Graham filed a formal application with the United States Patent and Trademark Office to trademark PITBULL IN A SKIRT for International Class 045 for attorney services. Attorney Graham holds the official trademark for PITBULL IN A SKIRT\, SERIAL NUMBER: 85303062. Damn....I was going to give my wife the title "Pitbull in a skirt" but I guess it's illegal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: I think this deserved its own post. Mods disagreed. Mods rightfully disagreed. Stop thinking, as you don't seem to be very good at it. Note that I'm not "directly stating" you're not good at it. I may be strongly suggesting it, based on your posting history. But I'm not stating it. [/Cordon's Attorney] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Yeah, neither "said directly." The scum-sucking attorney just wrote a letter that suggested as strongly as possible that he was involved. To the point of stressing he wanted the jewelry back, he "suggested she could be robbed," he was suing her and trying to have her evicted, he tried to steal her stuff a month before... LeShawn ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Damn....I was going to give my wife the title "Pitbull in a skirt" but I guess it's illegal. Seems like she hired top quality here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Her hot headed best-friend maybe needed to think before she clicked send on that Instagram picture and post. Go to the police and attorneys...or the league, but don't post pictures and vilify someone until it gets sorted out. The social media aspect to this case is the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDS73 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: I think this deserved its own post. Mods disagreed. Breaking news from CBS Cordon in full retreat. Could still involve Shady, but looking good for him. Note, she says "no longer sure" - meaning she was and changed her mind. Why? What changed? I never thought Shady did it, could still be wrong, but I am betting on McCoy. Cordon's attorney Tanya Mitchell Graham told CBS News the jewelry were birthday presents from McCoy. Graham also said her client is no longer certain the NFL star was involved in the attack. The new information from Cordon's lawyer comes one after Graham told Mike Petchenik that her client has never accused McCoy of domestic violence. The news comes one day after Milton, Georgia police released incident reports from three separate calls to McCoy's residence dating from July 2017. Despite being called to the residence three times, Cordon and McCoy never accused one another of domestic violence. All this really tells me is that her lawyer told her to stop implicating LeSean, or she can be sued for doing so without proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: This is her Attorney. http://www.tmgesq.com/index-1.html Yeah, I looked her up the other day. She's an entertainment lawyer who fell backwards into "domestic law" representing Ludacris in a custody case. She seems like a good entertainment lawyer, by reputation. But little experience with criminal law, and less with domestic violence than I have. I'd bet she's involved just because Cordon's first impulse was "call a lawyer," and Graham is her business attorney, so she was the first one Cordon called, and it didn't occur to Graham that, in a criminal case representing a victim, you don't preempt the DA and start releasing press releases on the victim's behalf. 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Damn....I was going to give my wife the title "Pitbull in a skirt" but I guess it's illegal. You've just got to vary it enough to not violate any trademarks. Like, maybe, "Doberman in a petticoat." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He would have to prove she knowing made false claims against him or his reputation. I could be mistaken as I'm not an attorney, but I think that's where the "defamation per se" or statements "presumed to be defamatory" part comes in. If you assert that someone is involved in criminal activity, domestic violence, child abuse, sexual assault of a minor, professional negligence, etc the "have to prove knowingly made false claims" bit doesn't apply. It's presumed to be defamatory, and the plaintiff has to provide proof that it's true. https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/what-is-defamation-per-se-.html I mean, it kind of makes sense - if I say you're involved in those things, that's considered so harmful to your reputation that "oh, hey, I didn't know it was a false statement, I really didn't mean anything" should not be accepted as an excuse. There better be some evidence to justify your statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: Yeah, I looked her up the other day. She's an entertainment lawyer who fell backwards into "domestic law" representing Ludacris in a custody case. She seems like a good entertainment lawyer, by reputation. But little experience with criminal law, and less with domestic violence than I have. I'd bet she's involved just because Cordon's first impulse was "call a lawyer," and Graham is her business attorney, so she was the first one Cordon called, and it didn't occur to Graham that, in a criminal case representing a victim, you don't preempt the DA and start releasing press releases on the victim's behalf. I wonder how much money was a factor in this. I'm sure Shady's Lawyer has a six figure retainer fee....as top criminal defense attorneys have. She might have been able to afford an Entertainment/Watered Down Criminal attorney. You think that factored into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Mods rightfully disagreed. Stop thinking, as you don't seem to be very good at it. Note that I'm not "directly stating" you're not good at it. I may be strongly suggesting it, based on your posting history. But I'm not stating it. [/Cordon's Attorney] What a snotty post. I may not be good at thinking, but you don't seem very good at respecting people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, MarlinTheMagician said: What a snotty post. I may not be good at thinking, but you don't seem very good at respecting people. ... Duh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I wonder how much money was a factor in this. I'm sure Shady's Lawyer has a six figure retainer fee....as top criminal defense attorneys have. She might have been able to afford an Entertainment/Watered Down Criminal attorney. You think that factored into it? No, I think as an "instagram model" she already had this woman as her attorney, and in the confusion of the moment, thinking "I need a lawyer," she probably called the lawyer she knew. Most people would do the same thing. Most attorneys I know, though, after the initial crisis was over, would say "I'm not the type of attorney you need, but I can refer you to one." It's really just yet one more little weird factoid in this case that's chock-full of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob&Doug Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 In for the 150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: No, I think as an "instagram model" she already had this woman as her attorney, and in the confusion of the moment, thinking "I need a lawyer," she probably called the lawyer she knew. Most people would do the same thing. Most attorneys I know, though, after the initial crisis was over, would say "I'm not the type of attorney you need, but I can refer you to one." It's really just yet one more little weird factoid in this case that's chock-full of them. What's your gut feeling how this plays out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: What a snotty post. I may not be good at thinking, but you don't seem very good at respecting people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, Starr Almighty said: I am not nearly that thin - 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: ... Duh... It always amuses the hell out of me, when people tell say something like that to me as though it's some great, wonderful discovery that only they are privy to. I look forward to the day that someone replies "I'm sure you know you're an !@#$, I'm just going to say it again for reinforcement: you're an !@#$." But it'll never happen, since anyone smart enough to do that wouldn't be observed by me to be an idiot to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, MarlinTheMagician said: I am not nearly that thin - I would hope your head isn't so disproportionate to your body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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