njbuff Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Would it be pissing on a man's grave if I mention the name James Hardy? He was kinda awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: I do not remember the 60's 70's and early 80's. I may be missing quite a few. I must go with Maybin too. He was Not a player lacking in talent forced to start, he was not a guy who was derailed by injury, he was just flat out bad. Could not even contribute as a backup or special teamer, terrible attitude. I'm convinced that if he was anything other than a high first round pick that he gets cut in the first season. Honorable mentions go to Justin Rogers-Remember the Jets game where they got like 350 passing yards and 280 of them were on him? The Ferragamo/mathison two headed QB monster of 1985. The first year that I remember watching the Bills. Makes Losman and Edwards look like Montana and Young Troup-This gets much worse when you consider that we could have easily gotten local player turned possibly best TE of all time Rob Gronkowski. TE was a position of need and many were projecting him on the Bills. At least Troup has the excuse of injury unlike Maybin. Troup essentially broke his back. Ya can't fault a guy for getting injured..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Flip Johnson said: Chris Watson the punt catcher and the worst cover corner we've ever had. Toast the punt catcher. That guy was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Maybin. Unless I missed it, nobody mentioned Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) I'm going with Aaron Maybin, too. There were plenty of 'bust' players like EJ, Mike Williams, Troup, etc., but Maybin was a 1st rounder who was a complete joke. Edited July 9, 2018 by Peace Frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Maybin still rings out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, TigerJ said: Torell Troup If you really think so, read this: https://buffalonews.com/2015/11/21/torell-troup-one-pick-ahead-of-gronk/ In no way was he anywhere near the worst. And it was his devotion to duty and to doing his best that led to the injury. Excerpt: "Through the 2011 lockout, Troup trained with a vengeance. He reported to training camp at a chiseled 319 pounds, eager to break out. Practices began at St. John Fisher and the kid who had 23 tackles and no sacks the year prior was dominant for stretches. “Honestly, I was killing the offensive line,” Troup said. “Eric Wood, I’m good friends with him, but they couldn’t handle me.” One day in the lunchroom, head coach Chan Gailey and General Manager Buddy Nix couldn’t contain their excitement. The two asked Troup to sit down with them and told this bull in a china shop they had no clue what he did over the offseason, but, wow, were they ecstatic to see this all transfer to game day. Their words added more fuel to Troup’s fire. His tear continued. Teammates today still remember Troup’s raw strength. “Low center of gravity,” guard Kraig Urbik said. “Super strong. Legs were very thick. Strong dude – he was tough to move for sure.” “He was a strong dude,” Wood said. “Big, powerful guy,” added veteran Kyle Williams. “He’s probably not your pass rusher, but a guy who could stack things up at the line and make plays at the line of scrimmage and do some good things there.” Reached by phone, Nix instantly remembers this camp well. “Those big guys are hard to find! Especially him,” Nix said. “He had some movement ability and was really a strong anchor guy.” As Nix recalls, the Bills were shifting to a 3-4 scheme when they took Troup and needed a nose to take on double teams. He doesn’t remember teams being scared off by Gronkowski’s injury history, but the Arizona tight end was the one with the shoddy Carfax report. Back surgery sidelined him his entire final season at Arizona. Troup? He missed a few games due to a knee scope as a freshman but was healthy in totaling 52 tackles (12.5 for loss) as a junior and 35 tackles (five for loss) as a senior. Then, without warning, his world started to crumble down. In a one-on-one pass rushing drill against Wood, Troup used a head bob to freeze the center. He smacked Wood with his right arm and Troup’s hand snapped, breaking the bone underneath his right knuckle. Initially, Troup thought he jammed the finger. By the time he reached the trainers he said his hand looked like a baseball glove. Troup missed one week of practice, wrapped the paw in a club and was prepared to punctuate his knockout summer in the preseason finale against Detroit. To this day, he cannot pinpoint the play, the moment, but during this game he fractured his lower back. “I played all through the game doped up,” he said, “so I couldn’t feel it.” On Wednesday, it felt like he pulled both hamstrings. He received an epidural. Tests later revealed the fracture. A disc in his back was slipping and pushing against nerves, causing burning and numbness down his legs. Troup sat out the first three weeks of the season and returned. “It’s easy to look back now and say, ‘I should have sat my ass down,’ ” Troup said. “But I was young. I was stupid. And it cost me my career.” ‘They wanted me to play’ In New England, there was a revolution. Gronkowski became Tom Brady’s No. 1 target, torching secondaries for 1,327 yards and 17 touchdowns en route to the Super Bowl. Back in Buffalo, there was only misery. Pain. Buffalo’s 5-2 start bled to a 6-10 finish as Troup eked by day to day. Teammates told him to stop playing. Coaches, he said, instructed him to play. His routine was simple. Pain pills for practice: Troup took usually took 7.5 or 9.5 mg of Percocet or a different medication. Toradol for game day: He used this magic potion to completely numb his body in the trenches. Despite serious side effects, players have treated this drug like Popeye’s spinach since the mid-1990s. Misuse can lead to kidney failure, liver damage and gastrointestinal bleeding. In a recent lawsuit, former NFL players claimed Toradol’s blood-thinning effects also worsen the effects of concussions. But Troup needed to play. He took the 1.5-inch, 22-gauge needle injection and suited up for six games. In addition to this, he took muscle relaxers. “They doped me up so much I couldn’t feel anything,” Troup said. “Now that I look back at it, I don’t really understand why I played. We weren’t having a great season. But like I said, if somebody told me to play … I didn’t know better. If somebody told me to play with my head cracked, I would’ve played.” Edited July 9, 2018 by Thurman#1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, major said: Billy Joe Hobert (didn’t have time to look at playbook) ?. Yours? Good choice. Aaron Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 James Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I think Trent Dreadwards should make the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Flip Johnson said: Chris Watson the punt catcher and the worst cover corner we've ever had. You win sir. ken Irvin gets my 2nd vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, major said: Billy Joe Hobert (didn’t have time to look at playbook) ?. Yours? Yeah, there were plenty of guys I didn't want playing for the Bills. Hobert was not a bad player, but was the only one I ever really despised. Too lazy to bother studying the playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Like in all things, it is relative. Relative to potential, need, draft position, and alternative options the Bills could have gone. I started watching in 1980. Therefore I would include: Perry Tuttle Vince Ferragamo Bill Joe Hobert Tony Hunter Aaron Maybin Torrell Troup TJ Graham JP Losman Rob Johnson Langston Walker Derrick Dockery If you take the perspective of worst players that may have been ok but ultimately did not play up to potential or let the team down then: Darryl Talley Mark Kelso Jeff Wright Donte Whitner (hell he could be in the list above) Trent Edwards Drew Bledsoe (great for 8 games but terrible afterwards) I like Ronnie Harmon and he was a special player but the drop gets him on the list Josh Reed - I don't know why I dislike him so much but then again do I really need a reason, oh look at that it is 2018 and he still has yet to break a tackle after the catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 JP Losman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Kevin Kolb. Not one start thanks to a floor mat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Aaron Maybin Without s doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Anquan Boldin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It seems like it needs to be someone who wasn't just bad, but was around long enough to have a true negative impact. Plenty of guys sucked, but never played much, or were high picks that just were a waste. It feels too easy to pick a QB (Hobert barely played), because they are under the microscope and overanalyzed. Some criteria could be.. A high pick. Maybe injured a lot. Unpopular with the fans Made serious game changing blunders. Stuck around, and had significant playing time. I think McCargo might be my pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 9 hours ago, slipkid said: Okay—I’ll throw in Gary Marangi and Percy Harvin, just for bait. Wow forgot that guy! I remember there were corny Bills jokes going around in the 70s. One was "What do the Bills eat for desert?" Lemon Marangi Pie! Super corny I know....there were others....anyone remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 10 hours ago, slipkid said: Based upon draft position alone, I would go with . . . Mike Williams Walt Putalski Erik Flowers and why not throw Tony Hunter in there, too. ...a pretty "impressive (COUGH) list".................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Gary Marangi His 35.3 completion percentage is the worst all-time completion in a season (minimum 200 attempts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Colin Brown was pretty turrible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I can't believe no one has mentioned Cornell Green. Or Spencer Johnson (at OLB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Walter Clickhammer. 1963 Still looking for directions to Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 There are probably 100 names you could list here that no one would even recognize...guys who were late draft picks, especially when the draft was longer/deeper, and were the first to get cut. Those are probably the worst Bills of all time. A better topic would be "Worst Bills to start the season on the active roster" or some such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 10 hours ago, mikemac2001 said: The Wile E. Coyote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Maybin #1 because of of 1st round pick but who is #2 and could push for #1 and I hate to say it because dude has my name "Eddie Robinson" https://www.complex.com/sports/2014/07/greatest-juke-moves-nfl-gifs/chad-pennington-jets Edited July 9, 2018 by Protocal69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Ken Irvin. He left his lane and allowed the Music City Forward Pass to occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Aaron Maybin Erik Flowers Brian Brohm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 One of the worst I can remember getting on the field is the guy who started the first 3 or 4 games at LG after Levitre left. I think he was name Colin Brown. He was beyond atrocious and got outright cut after 4 games as I recall and never picked up by anyone after that. 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: Colin Brown was pretty turrible Didn't see this post. Yes, him. I second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 For me, the worst players would be those that didn’t even seem to be trying. It’s bad when I care more than the guy wearing the uniform. So I’ll add: Matt Leinhart (worst audition ever) Mario at the end (still remember him totally quitting on the team at the end) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Augie said: Some guy who didn’t make the first cut..... Pretty much. I think a better title would be most disappointing player. I'll co-sign on Maybin. Also, Mark Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 CJ Spiller is not the worst Bills player of all time, but when you measure the amount of time he was able to stay in the lineup and short stay in Buffalo against the fairly high 1st round, 9th overall pick it took to get him...his career would have to be considered one of the bigger busts in team history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Anyone who answers anything BUT aaron maybin is a hipster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It’s still a bit early but I REALLY HOPE that Shaq Lawson doesn’t show up on this list in a year or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It depends how you interpret the question but Aaron Maybin is probably the worst combination of assets and production. He was picked 11th overall as a pass rusher and had as many sacks in a Bills uniform as me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s still a bit early but I REALLY HOPE that Shaq Lawson doesn’t show up on this list in a year or two. Lawson hasn’t lived up to his draft status but I don’t think he deserves to be anywhere on this list. I could probably think of at least 50 players worse than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: There are probably 100 names you could list here that no one would even recognize...guys who were late draft picks, especially when the draft was longer/deeper, and were the first to get cut. Those are probably the worst Bills of all time. A better topic would be "Worst Bills to start the season on the active roster" or some such. The 2001 Bills roster had plenty of bad players, check this out Raion HIll, Greggo wanted to play the 46 defense with this guy as his SS, the most important piece of the defense, according to him Lance Brown, back up to Raion Hill... Tony Driver, safety from Notre Dame, two years pro (injury prone) Travares Tillman, guy could not play, made Pierson Priouleau an all pro in comparison Chris Watson, punt catcher Kendrick Office, try hard DE, 2 year pro Kenyatta Wright, MLB, went to the Jets, only started two games with us, none for the Jets (3 years with them) Erik Flowers, useless pass rusher, useless everything Leif Larsen, very strong.... Fred Jones, another LB, never started a game in the NFL (4 year pro) Philip Crosby, FB, three years with the team, I can't remember a single play or block this guy made. Reggie Germany, WR, cool name, that's all Avion Black, kick returner, sent to the Texans in supplemental draft, at least he caught a TD from David Carr Dan O'Leary; TE, special teams, barely. Jon Carman, RT, who? Craig Heimurger, G, Kris Farris, T, he can make a comeback, this time for real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 11 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Don't forget McCargo I have some accidental footage from an overhead camera my spouse and I installed above our bed for "security purposes" which depicts me waking up from a nightmare, staring at the sky and shaking my fists while yelling in terror the words "McCargo! McCargo! McCargo!!!!" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Fixxxer said: The 2001 Bills roster had plenty of bad players, check this out Kendrick Office, try hard DE, 2 year pro One of Gregggggggggo's classic quotes "Ha baht that Kendrick Office?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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