transplantbillsfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) EDIT: For the collective poll from the Summer ending September 1st on who would win the Summer QB competition: 479 votes cast. 31.11% were for Allen 45.51% were for McCarron 23.38% were for Peterman 45.51% of the people who voted saw the guy they thought would start week 1 traded away. 23.38% of the board was correct. The rest of us apparently gave our Head Coach the benefit of the doubt and thought he'd make the right choice Edited September 14, 2018 by transplantbillsfan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I really would like to see Allen sit for the first 6-8 games. But honestly he is likely to look far and away better than the other guys in camp. Beane said something like "if you don't start the best guy you are holding back the team" or something like that. I think in the end they are going to have to start Allen because the entire team is going to see how good he is in practice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 For all the optimism surrounding Josh Allen, I think it's gonna take a bit longer than OTAs and training camp to get acclimated to the pro level. I won't be upset in the slightest if he proves me wrong. So at this point, I gotta give the nod to McCarron. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I think Allen would have to be absolutely lights out during training camp and preseason to get the starting job over McCarron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think it's Josh Allen. I'll be fine if McCarron wins it. I'll be absolutely floored if Peterman wins it... I think he's more likely on the practice squad than under center week 1. I think Allen has like a 55% chance. McCarron has maybe a 35% chance. Peterman has a 5% chance, if that. Allen is obviously the choice of this regime long term. Beane has questioned publicly the media perception of Allen as "raw." Dabol said he has a plan for him and was said to be on him like white on rice all rookie minicamp. It just feels inevitable that the most talented QB who's already the Apple of McBeane's Eyes will win the starting job against one scrub with a noodle arm and one QB with some potential, 4 years on the bench and a handful of quality NFL starts, but also a guy who made it through the 1st wave of Free Agency before Beane finally settling on him. The physical ability is there. The smarts are there. The experience under center is there. The work ethic is there. #17 under center on Sunday, September 9th in Baltimore... what say you? If Peterman is starting week 1 then we’re in a lot of trouble this season. The only way I see him starting is if AJ and Josh are both out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikuman Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I have an incredibly high degree of faith in this coaching staff, but given the losses we took on the o-line I honestly can't see how anyone believes that our starting QB doesn't spend half the season on his backside. For that reason alone, I really hope that they don't start Allen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I’ve been of the belief that Allen needs time. The sense I get however is that the Bills are hoping that he’s ready early. He will be given every opportunity to play from the jump. I voted Allen because that’s what I think will happen. If he isn’t ready as early as they want McCarron will play until he is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, nikuman said: I have an incredibly high degree of faith in this coaching staff, but given the losses we took on the o-line I honestly can't see how anyone believes that our starting QB doesn't spend half the season on his backside. For that reason alone, I really hope that they don't start Allen this year. Have you forgotten to trust the PROCESS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumaro02 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) If you thought the Bills would draft Josh Rosen please don't vote. You are obviously out of touch with what the new "Bills Culture" and "Bills New DNA" is according to Beane and McDermott. You are living in your "conventional wisdom" world and are no doubt proud of it. Allen IS Buffalo as Beane has clearly said although you refused to listen. I love Peterman but now love Allen more. He is MORE than a conventional talent for your conventional thinking. It WILL be Allen backed up by Peterman.......... Edited May 22, 2018 by tumaro02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 In the end, you put your best players on the field. I think Josh Allen is the best QB we have. It will not surprise me if he is the Game One starter. However, if McCarron wins on merit because he has a fantastic Training Camp = GREAT! if he is the game one starter by default = YUCK! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, tumaro02 said: If you thought the Bills would draft Josh Rosen please don't vote. You are obviously out of touch with what the new "Bills Culture" and "Bills New DNA" is according to Beane and McDermott. You are living in your "conventional wisdom" world and are no doubt proud of it. Allen IS Buffalo as Beane as clearly said although you refused to listen. I love Peterman but now love Allen more. He is NOT a conventional talent for your conventional thinking. It WILL be Allen backed up by Peterman........... Period. Like your comment is the definitive word. McCarron starts week 1. And we should hope for the year, as it would mean he's playing well and it will give Allen time to learn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Anyone but Cassel #tealeaves #whosdaq 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Anyone but Cassel I swear to God if the Ravens line Lamar up at WR for the first play of the season....... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumaro02 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Like your comment is the definitive word. McCarron starts week 1. And we should hope for the year, as it would mean he's playing well and it will give Allen time to learn There we go.... conventional wisdom shines again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 May the best man win as it should be, but I want Peterman to start against the Chargers. I think McCarron wins the job rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I think Allen would have to be absolutely lights out during training camp and preseason to get the starting job over McCarron Let's evaluate this statement. Why is McCarron the de facto starter? Because of his four games of NFL experience? Because he played lights out? Because he was a highly rated draft pick? The guy won a battle to become a free agent this offseason and then sat and watched every other free agent QB sign a big deal. He's getting paid peanuts (relatively speaking) by the Bills. He is a safety net, not the guy the Bills hope is starting. If the #7 pick in the draft shows during OTAs and training camp that he grasps the offense the Bills would be fools for not letting him take the reins from the get-go. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, tumaro02 said: There we go.... conventional wisdom shines again.... Yes. Wisdom. Try it sometime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumaro02 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: Yes. Wisdom. Try it sometime. "CONVENTIONAL" = Like everyone else's wisdom. Don't have an "original" thought wisdom. Someone else's wisdom. You need to step out and think for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think it's Josh Allen. I'll be fine if McCarron wins it. I'll be absolutely floored if Peterman wins it... I think he's more likely on the practice squad than under center week 1. I think Allen has like a 55% chance. McCarron has maybe a 35% chance. Peterman has a 5% chance, if that. Allen is obviously the choice of this regime long term. Beane has questioned publicly the media perception of Allen as "raw." Dabol said he has a plan for him and was said to be on him like white on rice all rookie minicamp. It just feels inevitable that the most talented QB who's already the Apple of McBeane's Eyes will win the starting job against one scrub with a noodle arm and one QB with some potential, 4 years on the bench and a handful of quality NFL starts, but also a guy who made it through the 1st wave of Free Agency before Beane finally settling on him. The physical ability is there. The smarts are there. The experience under center is there. The work ethic is there. #17 under center on Sunday, September 9th in Baltimore... what say you? Is the other 5% Ryan Zapoticky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think it's Josh Allen. I'll be fine if McCarron wins it. I'll be absolutely floored if Peterman wins it... I think he's more likely on the practice squad than under center week 1. I think Allen has like a 55% chance. McCarron has maybe a 35% chance. Peterman has a 5% chance, if that. Allen is obviously the choice of this regime long term. Beane has questioned publicly the media perception of Allen as "raw." Dabol said he has a plan for him and was said to be on him like white on rice all rookie minicamp. It just feels inevitable that the most talented QB who's already the Apple of McBeane's Eyes will win the starting job against one scrub with a noodle arm and one QB with some potential, 4 years on the bench and a handful of quality NFL starts, but also a guy who made it through the 1st wave of Free Agency before Beane finally settling on him. The physical ability is there. The smarts are there. The experience under center is there. The work ethic is there. #17 under center on Sunday, September 9th in Baltimore... what say you? A guy who made it through the first wave of free agency?...... like made it to day 2?... after he was awarded the right? I find it funny how people act like he was just sitting by the phone for weeks. I don't think there's any chance they throw ja in the first 4 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I really look forward to TC this year and Astro's reports on QBs and OL men. Preseason play then who they can pick up after final cut down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, LEBills said: Is the other 5% Ryan Zapoticky? DId they make him an offer? He was only here on a try-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Which reporter will be first to go with the every Bills QB sucks angle? I think they expect Allen to win the job. AJ was the last remaining FA QB and his contract reflects that. Peterman and AJ should be nothing more than speed bumps for Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, eball said: Let's evaluate this statement. Why is McCarron the de facto starter? Because of his four games of NFL experience? Because he played lights out? Because he was a highly rated draft pick? The guy won a battle to become a free agent this offseason and then sat and watched every other free agent QB sign a big deal. He's getting paid peanuts (relatively speaking) by the Bills. He is a safety net, not the guy the Bills hope is starting. If the #7 pick in the draft shows during OTAs and training camp that he grasps the offense the Bills would be fools for not letting him take the reins from the get-go. Yep all that. Good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Can't vote there are only 3 options and i know there is a 4th arm coming to camp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 When are Allen and Harrison Phillips going to sign their contracts? They're going to practice without being signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 hours ago, LEBills said: Is the other 5% Ryan Zapoticky? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I think McCarron starts week 1 and the entire season. I think he surprises people and is this years Jimmy G. Will be interesting to see what happens if Allen is lighting up practices while McCarron performs well during the season. Two good quarterbacks. Fantastic dilemma. I know, seems like a long shot, but I really think this will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Off the board choice, Colin Kaepernick! but it needs to be McCarron. He might be terrible but he is a vet and this offense could crush Allen’s confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 It's going to be McCarron. But Allen should be the starter by week 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: For all the optimism surrounding Josh Allen, I think it's gonna take a bit longer than OTAs and training camp to get acclimated to the pro level. I won't be upset in the slightest if he proves me wrong. So at this point, I gotta give the nod to McCarron. I think he may have enough to win the QB competition BUT I would vote for whoever wins out number two to start the season. My reasoning is that we have no idea how the offensive line will hold up they may require tweaking. PLUS - have no idea how the new plays and play calling will fare. I'd just a soon iron out all the wrinkles a bit BEFORE putting our Rookie under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I think Peterman and McCarron are going to both shock some folks. It’s going to be a good problem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I think McCarron starts week 1 and the entire season. I think he surprises people and is this years Jimmy G. Will be interesting to see what happens if Allen is lighting up practices while McCarron performs well during the season. Two good quarterbacks. Fantastic dilemma. I know, seems like a long shot, but I really think this will happen. While that would be awesome, Jimmy G was a 2nd round pick who was really young sitting behind a HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Which of these things is not like the others? It's OTA's man, not the Pre Season. This guy ^ Prediction: Nathan Peterman Bills Starting QB Wk. 1 vs. Ravens Start Allen from Day 1/ QB competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: I swear to God if the Ravens line Lamar up at WR for the first play of the season....... I don't think his mom will allow that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 hours ago, LEBills said: Is the other 5% Ryan Zapoticky? Math is not for every one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I think Allen would have to be absolutely lights out during training camp and preseason to get the starting job over McCarron Why? You actually think McDermott won't just start the best guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I think Allen flashes enough in preseason/TC, more so than McCarron, and they end up riding with the rookie as the opening day starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why? You actually think McDermott won't just start the best guy? Do we trust McDermott with qbs after the Chargers debacle? I just have a lot of worries about a guy who struggles in the Mountain West playing in the nfl as a rookie. I think it could crush him and the offense around him looks shaky at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I voted AJ, mostly because that’s what I’m hoping for. I feel like Allen will need some time to get acclimated, but then, I’ve never even met the guy! It’s entirely possible that he is far enough advanced and has the mental makeup to play from the get go. I just hope they don’t throw him in before he’s (close enough to) ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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