SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ7FZk3fla9oQAIERx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--/RV=2/RE=1526353380/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fsports.yahoo.com%2fpatriots-reportedly-hiring-taekwondo-grandmaster-train-pass-rushers-162950807.html/RK=2/RS=E4hH7UHl2Gm1v8eUZYLtco8LHRo- Do you know King Fu? The Patriots are reportedly hiring a Taekwondo grandmaster to train pass rushers i hope the link works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 There are all kinds of things to be learned by football players from experts in other disciplines. I have often wondered why offensive linemen don't get a little crash course in sumo wrestling in training camp. The things OL need to do all the time are what Sumo is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: There are all kinds of things to be learned by football players from experts in other disciplines. I have often wondered why offensive linemen don't get a little crash course in sumo wrestling in training camp. The things OL need to do all the time are what Sumo is all about. a few players used to take ballet. maybe they think their guys can "fly" across the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Judo would probably be better for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Sounds like the same guy that Jauron brought on years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Didn't the Bills do a very similar thing a few years back? I vaguely remember someone from this discipline coming into training camp to work on hand to hand combat in the hopes it would improve the Defensive Lineman's hand speed and strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: There are all kinds of things to be learned by football players from experts in other disciplines. I have often wondered why offensive linemen don't get a little crash course in sumo wrestling in training camp. The things OL need to do all the time are what Sumo is all about. Cause you have to hold on to your opponent to make that work..... besides seeing the O line in depends would kill my love of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 They should The ancient Asian art of Kama sutra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Didn't the Bills do a very similar thing a few years back? I vaguely remember someone from this discipline coming into training camp to work on hand to hand combat in the hopes it would improve the Defensive Lineman's hand speed and strength. I'm pretty sure they had someone back in the Superbowl days. I want to say it was a guy from a place near the corner of South Abbott and Armor Duells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: They should The ancient Asian art of Kama sutra Marcia and the hoodie are already doing so with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I've always though Sumo wrestlers could make good O-linemen. Not the big fat guys. Sumo actually comes in weight classes, but the technique is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Wax on... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TigerJ Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I've always though Sumo wrestlers could make good O-linemen. Not the big fat guys. Sumo actually comes in weight classes, but the technique is the same. Sumo wrestlers have to keep their hands inside the opponents shoulders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Sumo wrestlers have to keep their hands inside the opponents shoulders? Not if they play for the Kyoto Patriots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: They should The ancient Asian art of Kama sutra We'd certainly see a lot more of those "Fifteen yards for .... giving him the business!" flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Genius move by the Pats***! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Tae Kwon Do is not the instructor you want you want teaching hand technique if your looking for a martial arts instructor. Akido would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 !@#$ em. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: a few players used to take ballet. maybe they think their guys can "fly" across the field. Insofar as I remember, OJ Simpson took ballet when he was playing for the Bills to help his balance. He was such a natural athletic talent I'm not sure he really needed it. 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Tae Kwon Do is not the instructor you want you want teaching hand technique if your looking for a martial arts instructor. Akido would be better Was going to mention Aikido....it's all about balance and energy transfer, using your opponent's own energy against him to guide him where you want him to go. Again, very useful stuff (perhaps) for an OL in pass blocking mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Insofar as I remember, OJ Simpson took ballet when he was playing for the Bills to help his balance. He was such a natural athletic talent I'm not sure he really needed it. Was going to mention Aikido....it's all about balance and energy transfer, using your opponent's own energy against him to guide him where you want him to go. Again, very useful stuff (perhaps) for an OL in pass blocking mode. I picked up my belt when was in the military in Chung do Kwan while I was in the military..... That is not a hand fighting martial art The ability to use a opponents leverage against them would suit O and D line much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Judo would probably be better for this. Kim's not just a tae-kwon-do guy. He's also into MMA and very knowledgeable about football. Here's his bio when he was an assistant S&C coach with the Brownies... Joe Kim enters the first season of his third stint with the Browns. Overall, 2016 marks his seventh season with Cleveland, where he serves as a strength and conditioning assistant/skills development. Kim originally got his start in the NFL with the Browns in 1992, where he was on staff as an assistant strength and conditioning coach/pass rush specialist through the 1995 season. He returned to the Browns from 1999-2000. Kim returns to Cleveland after spending the 2015 season with the Washington Redskins and the 2014 season with the Chicago Bears in the same capacity. Prior to his time in Chicago, Kim served as a pass rush consultant with the Kansas City Chiefs (2010-12), New York Giants (2010), Buffalo Bills (2009), Penn State (2009), Denver Broncos (2007), Miami Dolphins (2001-04, 06), Green Bay Packers (2005) and Dallas Cowboys (1998). In addition to strength and conditioning, Kim brings a wealth of martial arts knowledge and experience with him as a seventh Dan Black Belt recognized by Kukkiwon, USA Taekwondo and the World Taekwondo Federation. He has produced more than 250 black belts and numerous national and international champions. In 1990, Kim earned bronze medals at the Pan Am Games and World Cup as a member of the U.S. National Taekwondo team. He is also a two-time U.S. Olympic Festival gold medalist and national champion. A native of Lakewood, Ohio, Kim attended St. Edward High School. He and his wife, Jeana, have two daughters, Katie and Lexi. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/coaches/joe-kim/710ea118-3e85-4257-9b62-834eec404d60 I'm not sure why the Pats hiring him is news worthy. He's worked with 8 NFL teams previously and has been around the NFL since 1998. Edited May 14, 2018 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) on a side note Lynn Swann was noted to practice ballet, and he was quite graceful on the field Edited May 14, 2018 by ddaryl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ7FZk3fla9oQAIERx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--/RV=2/RE=1526353380/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fsports.yahoo.com%2fpatriots-reportedly-hiring-taekwondo-grandmaster-train-pass-rushers-162950807.html/RK=2/RS=E4hH7UHl2Gm1v8eUZYLtco8LHRo- Do you know King Fu? The Patriots are reportedly hiring a Taekwondo grandmaster to train pass rushers i hope the link works But...how does that help them cheat? Not sure about this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: They should The ancient Asian art of Kama sutra Are you offering to teach players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Are you offering to teach players? Sure, if you know a demonstration partner I'd love to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Koko78 said: My first thought as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Tae Kwon Do is not the instructor you want you want teaching hand technique if your looking for a martial arts instructor. Akido would be better Okinawa Karate or Good Kung fu. Agree that Tae Kwon Do is worthless for hands as all they do is kick. A Korean derivative of Shotokan which was a Japanese derivative of Okinawa Karate. Aikido is to soft for the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Fadingpain said: There are all kinds of things to be learned by football players from experts in other disciplines. I have often wondered why offensive linemen don't get a little crash course in sumo wrestling in training camp. The things OL need to do all the time are what Sumo is all about. Cyrus was years ahead of his time: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: Are you offering to teach players? I hear Sandusky taught a course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 They hired Diamond Dave??! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Kinda smart...being in the trenches is similar to hand to hand combat with the hand fighting that goes on...so anything you can do within the rules to gain an advantage is smart to look at... I mean is he going to teach them to give them a shot to the solar plexus to knock the wind out of them and force their hands down? Would that be legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FappyTheClown Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I remember week one of the 2011 season showed some martial arts guy the Chiefs hired training players on the field prior to kickoff. Buffalo laid a beat down, 41-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyboy Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 One of my buddies is good friends with Joe Kim so I’ve met him a few times and talked to him about football. He tried working with Maybin when he was drafted here. Said he was hopeless. Tried to get him to do extra work after practice and maybin wouldn’t show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Sammyboy said: One of my buddies is good friends with Joe Kim so I’ve met him a few times and talked to him about football. He tried working with Maybin when he was drafted here. Said he was hopeless. Tried to get him to do extra work after practice and maybin wouldn’t show up. Maybin was too busy thinking about his book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 20 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: Sounds like the same guy that Jauron brought on years ago. when on top of the game the best seek even more advantage Jauron's bunch couldn't have been helped by anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I think this move is just what the Pats*** needed to get them over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Yeah other players/teams have tried this. Can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Same guy the Bills hired a few years back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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