Kim Pegula Releases Statement on the Future of Training Camp at SJF

[SoTier]

33 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The Bills were never leaving Rochester. It is too important to the viability of the franchise. This couldn’t be less of a story. There is no credit to be distributed here. The Bills have a contract and are abiding by it. Why is this a story?

 

Because too many posters on this MB don't put their brains in gear before hitting the <Submit Reply> button.

[LabattBlue]

It’s way too late in the game to change training camp this year, so what would be the point of her making any inflammatory remarks.  

 

If if there is an out clause in the contract, this could be the last camp at SJF.   Plans could already be in the works...who knows. 

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yes, but the Pegula’s are going to keep the few million dollars (plus the Rochester goodwill). I will be shocked if they ever leave regardless of what McDermott wants.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't McDermott change the way TC was being run last year?

I believe he had more "closed practices" which I had no problem with.

 

It doesn't matter where they hold TC.  SJF is fine and McDermott will have a bigger say as to how they are run.

All teams have "open practices" and the Bill's will continue to have them too.

The NFL uses a portion of Training Camp as a marketing tool and will continue to in the future.

 

IMO this is all a tempest in a teacup.

[Green Lightning]

It's a real positive that Kim is involved. She ahould be comfortable in the business because after all she's much younger than Terry. She could be the sole owner one day.

Edited May 4, 2018 by Green Lightning

[RoyBatty is alive]

16 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

$*** Fountain.

 

Mine is well chosen also...

it is indeed

[BringBackOrton]

3 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

It's a real positive that Kim is involved. She ahould be comfortable in the business because after all she's much younger than Terry. She could be the sole owner one day.

Ha ha oh my!

 

As for this press release, the Bills have 4 years on their contract at SJF. Thank god for Kim Pegula. I take back anything I have ever said about her being unqualified. She's proven me wrong. The way she navigated that press release was way better than anything Terry could have done. Go Kim!

[Jerome007]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Translation:  "We could break the contract, but we're not going to do it.   After that, all bets are off, although I love my hometown."

Well, what do you expect? It's business. Why would she commit more than this year? They might renew, might not. And teams do change facilities and areas they train in all the time. 

[BringBackFergy]

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

This is classic corporate speak.  If you read between the lines, she offers no assurances that they’ll honor the remaining 4 years.  

This is classic corporate paranoia speak in interpreting her statement that way. 

[26TrapDraw]

1 hour ago, Ifartalot said:

What did Kim say ?......I was distracted and not listening.

Your screen name is utterly offensive.

[Kirby Jackson]

25 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't McDermott change the way TC was being run last year?

I believe he had more "closed practices" which I had no problem with.

 

It doesn't matter where they hold TC.  SJF is fine and McDermott will have a bigger say as to how they are run.

All teams have "open practices" and the Bill's will continue to have them too.

The NFL uses a portion of Training Camp as a marketing tool and will continue to in the future.

 

IMO this is all a tempest in a teacup.

The sponsorship revenue that the Bills have created from camp is very, very high compared to the rest of the league. They’ve invested in Rochester and in turn a lot of Rochester companies have invested in them. They would lose a significant revenue stream by going back to the stadium. It doesn’t make any sense in their situation. If it ain’t broke....

 

Closed practices may be a compromise long term. They may give him 5 or so closed practices during their time at SJF. 

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The sponsorship revenue that the Bills have created from camp is very, very high compared to the rest of the league. They’ve invested in Rochester and in turn a lot of Rochester companies have invested in them. They would lose a significant revenue stream by going back to the stadium. It doesn’t make any sense in their situation. If it ain’t broke....

 

Closed practices may be a compromise long term. They may give him 5 or so closed practices during their time at SJF. 

 

Thanks for the details.  Like I said doesn't matter to me where.  SJF sounds fine and I do know that the Rochester fans love them there.

Sound like a win/win even if Brandon created the deal.

[SoTier]

McDermott might not be the HC in two years, so I find it highly unlikely that the Bills would break a valid contract and possibly alienate business sponsors just to please him.  If he's still HC when the contract comes up for renewal, his wishes will be taken in consideration but unless he brings a Lombardi to the Bills in the next 3 or 4 years, his preferences won't be the overriding fact in determining if TC stays at SJF or is held elsewhere.

 

[BuffaloRush]

1 hour ago, jimmy10 said:

 

Exactly, that statement really said almost literally nothing about the future, other than they're "preparing" for camp there this summer, which isn't the same as being committed to camp there this summer. Loopholes big enough to drive a Pittsford Central School District bus through. 

Yet, many people in this read read that statement like they were committed for all 4 years.  It clearly doesn’t say that

4 minutes ago, SoTier said:

McDermott might not be the HC in two years, so I find it highly unlikely that the Bills would break a valid contract and possibly alienate business sponsors just to please him.  If he's still HC when the contract comes up for renewal, his wishes will be taken in consideration but unless he brings a Lombardi to the Bills in the next 3 or 4 years, his preferences won't be the overriding fact in determining if TC stays at SJF or is held elsewhere.

 

 

Right... if you read my post I said it was likely, especially if he signs renewal.  If he does, bye bye Fisher

[BobbyC81]

3 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Smart move? She said they are honoring the current agreement. How is this press release indicative of her intelligence or qualifications?

 

In the age of texting and twitter, some people are easily impressed when someone puts multiple complete sentences together.

[billsredneck1]

2 hours ago, Ifartalot said:

What did Kim say ?......I was distracted and not listening.

i got an idea...oh wait never mind i went blank and forgot what i was gonna say...

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

3 hours ago, Ifartalot said:

What did Kim say ?......I was distracted and not listening.

She needs some work on her ballhandling! High and Tight Kim

[1st&ten]

I'm excited about Kim & hope she can handle the job. The Bills have been kick around for a long time by the media & the good old boy network of the NFL. Things are changing & the Bills are at the forefront of what's happening in the world. I think it's part of a new era for the Bills. Sorry if someone posted the same thoughts' I didn't have time to read the whole thread.

 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

Dude. In 4 years they may be building a new stadium. There is no assurance that it will be built at OBD, right?

 

 

Even a with a downtown stadium Bills offices and camp could still be in OP.

[Just Joshin']

I do not know if camp will stay at SJF for the remainder of the contract.

 

I do know that many on here would complain no matter what she said.

[PromoTheRobot]

45 minutes ago, SoTier said:

McDermott might not be the HC in two years, so I find it highly unlikely that the Bills would break a valid contract and possibly alienate business sponsors just to please him.  If he's still HC when the contract comes up for renewal, his wishes will be taken in consideration but unless he brings a Lombardi to the Bills in the next 3 or 4 years, his preferences won't be the overriding fact in determining if TC stays at SJF or is held elsewhere.

 

It's that the yardstick? A Lombardi or pack up?

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, 1st&ten said:

I'm excited about Kim & hope she can handle the job. The Bills have been kick around for a long time by the media & the good old boy network of the NFL. Things are changing & the Bills are at the forefront of what's happening in the world. I think it's part of a new era for the Bills. Sorry if someone posted the same thoughts' I didn't have time to read the whole thread.

 

 

You too, I, well, I mean your first sentence was just..................

 I mean Good post!

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

3 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

Why would she? It's a contract. There's going to be a price negotiation. Saying that they would renew gives SJF more leverage.

 

This is why I'm not a businessman.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

43 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

This is why I'm not a businessman.

 

...any mention of a possible renewal would be non-binding......but there is no value to even broach the subject now with the current agreement expiring in 2021 (I think).....any mention about "possibilities either way" could potential alienate the Rochester base and MORE negative publicity right now is NOT needed.......SJF in question would be tied to the Brandon debacle in a media feeding frenzy...........

[BadLandsMeanie]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It's that the yardstick? A Lombardi or pack up?

This is one of those, not what he said posts that I been noticing so much on here.

It isn't my post this time around so I can be objective

 

Why are there so many posts on here that respond to something that the poster being quoted, didn't say?

 

 

[US Egg]

3 hours ago, BeefCurtns said:

Your screen name is utterly offensive.

Flatulence is never pleasant. 

[papazoid]

4 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

This is classic corporate speak.  If you read between the lines, she offers no assurances that they’ll honor the remaining 4 years.  

 

boom

[formerlyofCtown]

5 hours ago, Lfod said:

I like the idea of being proactive. It is a good look. I have a feeling that now the people taking over the team are more settled in and can build a winning culture. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to buy a football team and how long it would take to settle in and really own it. 

Part of evaluating a corporation after you purchase it is figuring out how to make it more successful.  Especial in the case of the Bills. They more than likely have been searching for the problems since they bought it.

[Lurker]

5 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Why wouldn't Kim, Houghton alum, move the camp to Houghton, closer to New Era, less distractions for the camp.

 

 

Because about 10 people live in Allegany County...

[Tcali]

5 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

You too, I, well, I mean your first sentence was just..................

 I mean Good post!

 

 

 

To quote Joe Piscopo doing Frank Sinatra.."She is one good looking Japanese"

[Greatdane21]

I'm just thankful that Trump didn't get his hands on the Bills ,what a hot mess that would have been?

 

[Doc]

13 minutes ago, Greatdane21 said:

I'm just thankful that Trump didn't get his hands on the Bills ,what a hot mess that would have been?

 

Yup.  Hillary probably would have become President.

[fansince88]

10 hours ago, Gugny said:

So she said, "Here are the contract terms.  I'm from Rochester."

 

That's some impressive ****, right there.

She skirted the most important question.  Why didnt John Murphy say anything about Russ.......

7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

You too, I, well, I mean your first sentence was just..................

 I mean Good post!

 

 

 

The big question here is who is in the reflection in her glasses?

[Heavy Kevi]

13 hours ago, Luka said:

Kim needs to get us a couple night practices back.

 

And make the tickets actually available.

 

I have never even seen a Wilson's market, and everytime I go to Tops the tix are gone.... I'm talking like 8 years running.

 

Only way I have gotten to a night practice was to buy them (I think I paid $10 for 3 or something) from a guy on craigslist.

[Ol Dirty B]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yup.  Hillary probably would have become President.

 

I can't believe people still say this and don't think they sound utterly stupid. And lame also, the joke is old.

 

Edited May 5, 2018 by Ol Dirty B

[LeGOATski]

Hopefully, they'll move training camp to Phoenix, AZ.

 

I promise Kim that I'll be there every year.

[SoTier]

14 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It's that the yardstick? A Lombardi or pack up?

 

Read my post again.  I said IF McDermott was still HC when the contract renewal came up, then he'd have input, but he'd have to do something spectacular -- like winning the SB -- in order to completely override competing considerations as to where hold TC.  I don't believe that the Pegulas are going to cede the right to make what is essentially a business decision to a head coach unless he does something spectacular.

[Doc]

6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

I can't believe people still say this and don't think they sound utterly stupid. And lame also, the joke is old.

 

It wasn't a joke.  And you sound utterly bitter.  Get over it. 

37 minutes ago, SoTier said:

Read my post again.  I said IF McDermott was still HC when the contract renewal came up, then he'd have input, but he'd have to do something spectacular -- like winning the SB -- in order to completely override competing considerations as to where hold TC.  I don't believe that the Pegulas are going to cede the right to make what is essentially a business decision to a head coach unless he does something spectacular.

 

Even if McD were to do something spectacular within the next 4 seasons (and I'd argue that last season qualified to smaller extent), it was accomplished while having training camp at SJF.  So then, what's the reason for moving it?  Obviously it's not hurting the product on the field and it's helping the business side.

[Keukasmallie]

Kim Pegula's statement sends shivers through the SJF hierarchy because of its politically-phrased total lack of content.  In terms of commitment and content it ranks up there with agreeing that Rochester is about seventy-six miles from Buffalo.

[dlonce]

I’d love to see training camp back here in the Buffalo area, but I really have no aversion to Rochester camp.

 

I used to ride my bike to Niagara University back in the OJ Simpson era. Lots of fond memories.

Skip Fredonia too.