Just Jack Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 How Redskins Used Cheerleaders: Topless Photo Shoots and an Uneasy Night Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Cheerleaders in professional sports makes no sense to me. They just aren't needed. With that said they should be treated with the same amount of respect as any employee. 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) Like I said in the other thread, retire this tired dinosaur of the past, at least with respect to the NFL. Do you remember The Comeback? Do you remember Andre's touchdowns? Do you remember the cheer leads? Yeah...that's my point. ...and shame on Washington. Edited May 2, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Do you remember the cheer leads? I remember a pre-season game years ago when they did their "look at us" dance routine between the 3rd and 4th quarters. They came out with chairs, and proceeded to do a strip club lap dance routine. I think someone said something because I never saw that routine again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 WGR was talking within the past couple days about how unfair the Saints organization was to their cheerleaders, too. Basically their rules put all the onus on the cheerleaders to prevent any unwanted interactions with players, so much so that if a cheerleader were out somewhere eating lunch and a player walked in, the rules dictated that it was the cheerleader's responsibility to immediately get up and leave the establishment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 You would think in this day and age the whole idea of having cheerleaders would be seen as a source of problems for any ball club. The whole concept is ripe for the #metoo movement to just rip to shreds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: How Redskins Used Cheerleaders: Topless Photo Shoots and an Uneasy Night Out NFL should establish boundaries for teams which choose to have cheerleaders. I disagree with others in that cheerleaders are unneeded in professional sports. Some of the fans are really dumb and need help knowing when to be making noise and when not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Rumor is they actually did have it bad as they had to have weekly meeting in Russ Bandon's office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Pics or it didn’t happen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: Rumor is they actually did have it bad as they had to have weekly meeting in Russ Bandon's office. Rumors go both way. Please do not make up stuff for thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Rumors go both way. Please do not make up stuff for thread. Christ's sake it was a joke----lighten up dude !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Gimme a break. Every team needs cheerleaders. And deserves them. All the innapropriateness comes from within, but genuinely speaking, its a good thing. I don't want a celery stalk leading the charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Well I know where Russ Brandon will be sending his resume too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: You would think in this day and age the whole idea of having cheerleaders would be seen as a source of problems for any ball club. The whole concept is ripe for the #metoo movement to just rip to shreds. I am shocked the spotlight hasn't yet forced the NFL to abondon the practice given the current social environment. There will be no NFL cheerleaders in 5-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: You would think in this day and age the whole idea of having cheerleaders would be seen as a source of problems for any ball club. The whole concept is ripe for the #metoo movement to just rip to shreds. The other side of the coin, though, is that a lot of women are passionate about cheerleading and love to do it. There was a documentary piece about this on HBO (Real Sports maybe?) a while ago. The male interviewer was asking a cheerleader "Why do you do it?" basically saying "Who would you do this?" given the fact that the cheerleaders are screwed over, make no pay, it's viewed as condescending to women by a lot of people, etc... The cheerleader's response was sobering! She had this serious, sad look in her eyes and said "I do it for the love of cheering." You could tell this was a really important part of her life, in a way I would not have expected. Like wow, some people take being a cheerleader really seriously? Overall, not sure anyone really needs cheerleader or that they add very much to the entertainment product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Just Jack said: I remember a pre-season game years ago when they did their "look at us" dance routine between the 3rd and 4th quarters. They came out with chairs, and proceeded to do a strip club lap dance routine. I think someone said something because I never saw that routine again. Probably got in trouble for some old guys having heart attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Holy crap they took their passports from them at the resort? That is a textbook human trafficking technique. This is crazy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 53 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: Rumor is they actually did have it bad as they had to have weekly meeting in Russ Bandon's office. I was waiting for this ... 16 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: The other side of the coin, though, is that a lot of women are passionate about cheerleading and love to do it. There was a documentary piece about this on HBO (Real Sports maybe?) a while ago. The male interviewer was asking a cheerleader "Why do you do it?" basically saying "Who would you do this?" given the fact that the cheerleaders are screwed over, make no pay, it's viewed as condescending to women by a lot of people, etc... The cheerleader's response was sobering! She had this serious, sad look in her eyes and said "I do it for the love of cheering." You could tell this was a really important part of her life, in a way I would not have expected. Like wow, some people take being a cheerleader really seriously? Overall, not sure anyone really needs cheerleader or that they add very much to the entertainment product. When done right, Cheerleading is a bona fide sport. It takes talent, hard work, and can actually be quite dangerous. Having that as a part of the entertainment - at appropriate times (e.g., during TV timeout) - would be a positive for the NFL. Unfortunately, that's not the kind of "cheerleading" offered by NFL teams. Having grown women doing silly little dance routines is unnecessary, and ends up being annoying when the actual game is being played. I too am amazed the practice has survived into 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 the Jills escorted special Bills fans to live tapings of Bowling For Dollars.three strikes in a row you got a Turkey! For a spare they gave you a can of creamed corn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: I was waiting for this ... When done right, Cheerleading is a bona fide sport. It takes talent, hard work, and can actually be quite dangerous. Having that as a part of the entertainment - at appropriate times (e.g., during TV timeout) - would be a positive for the NFL. Unfortunately, that's not the kind of "cheerleading" offered by NFL teams. Having grown women doing silly little dance routines is unnecessary, and ends up being annoying when the actual game is being played. I too am amazed the practice has survived into 2018. Exactly. The NFL version is not actual cheerleading. Actual competitive cheerleaders will tell you that it is a crazy difficult gymnastic sport. The NFL features dance troupes, not cheerleaders by the definition of the sport. NFL cheerleaders are to cheering as my getting in my car and driving to work is to NASCAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB12 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Cheerleaders bring something positive to the game experience. However, if they are to be exploited in any manner, I say sack the idea of cheerleaders. Whatever happened to appreciating beautiful women but treating them with respect... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 41 minutes ago, QB12 said: Cheerleaders bring something positive to the game experience. However, if they are to be exploited in any manner, I say sack the idea of cheerleaders. Whatever happened to appreciating beautiful women but treating them with respect... Lets be honest here if they werent attactive women no one would care they were there. Guys just want to look at them cause they are attractive and dancing around. Now im not saying there is anything wrong with that..but thats the truth. In the NFL cheerleaders are eye candy...this is not cheerleading as a sport. 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: Exactly. The NFL version is not actual cheerleading. Actual competitive cheerleaders will tell you that it is a crazy difficult gymnastic sport. The NFL features dance troupes, not cheerleaders by the definition of the sport. NFL cheerleaders are to cheering as my getting in my car and driving to work is to NASCAR. Yep..and also extremely dangerous. Thise cheerleaders are no joke and very tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 working for nothing is bad enough but this is uber creepy. The NFL's attempt to cover it's ass and claim ignorance is equally deplorable. I think cheerleading is an essential part of football culture and should be treated as dignified work. I miss the Jills. They were great ambassadors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 After Commercial breaks I can’t think of anything that adds less to the game. The remaining teams that haven’t should wise up and ditch what is nothing other than a needless sideshow and potential liability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 20 hours ago, 1st&ten said: Christ's sake it was a joke----lighten up dude !!! Asking limeaids to lighten up is like asking the Pope to be a protestant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 22 hours ago, Just Jack said: I remember a pre-season game years ago when they did their "look at us" dance routine between the 3rd and 4th quarters. They came out with chairs, and proceeded to do a strip club lap dance routine. I think someone said something because I never saw that routine again. 25,000 posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 hours ago, stuvian said: working for nothing is bad enough but this is uber creepy. The NFL's attempt to cover it's ass and claim ignorance is equally deplorable. I think cheerleading is an essential part of football culture and should be treated as dignified work. I miss the Jills. They were great ambassadors Exactly, I don’t understand people saying that the #metoo movement will destroy cheerleading. There is nothing inherently wrong with cheerleading itself. It’s the creeepy dudes who take things way too far. To say that the #metoo movement must destroy cheerleading is saying that harassment and cheerleading must go hand in hand. The mere existence of cheerleaders doesn’t mean that guys are forced to take advantage of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 20 hours ago, stuvian said: working for nothing is bad enough but this is uber creepy. The NFL's attempt to cover it's ass and claim ignorance is equally deplorable. I think cheerleading is an essential part of football culture and should be treated as dignified work. I miss the Jills. They were great ambassadors I agree with all your points but cheerleaders are not essential at all in the NFL. Are the Bills selling less tickets because the Jills are gone? And again this is mot cheerleading as a sport its just parading pretty women around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 4:53 PM, Skins Malone said: Cheerleaders in professional sports makes no sense to me. They just aren't needed. With that said they should be treated with the same amount of respect as any employee. ...and certainly paid accordingly...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and certainly paid accordingly...... Agreed. If a team decides they want them pay them and treat them like all your employees. I dont think they are needed but i know people really liked seeing the Jills out at events and such. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Enough of all this white knighting. I am a man who likes looking at women One vote for yes to cheerleaders! Especially the jiggly ones. I like them around on game day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I want pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Enough of all this white knighting. I am a man who likes looking at women One vote for yes to cheerleaders! Especially the jiggly ones. I like them around on game day. ...I'm thinking blurred vision by around 10AM could be a visual impediment.....just sayin'............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Enough of all this white knighting. I am a man who likes looking at women One vote for yes to cheerleaders! Especially the jiggly ones. I like them around on game day. Well you wont be seeing any jiggly cheerleaders at New Era Field. I love some guys act like they have never seen an attactive woman before. Look around the stands im sure there are some hotties for ya. Edited May 4, 2018 by Skins Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I want pics Me too and hot cheerleaders are exactly what this team needs rather than that stupid band. They need to import them from the strip clubs in Canada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 First they talk men out of cargo shorts, then they talk them into skinny jeans and now we can’t even have cheerleaders anymore. Buy stock in man thongs, it’s going to be the new hot thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Gee... A team that uses it's nickname as a symbol of the exploitation and cultural appropriation of other's are treating people unfairly? Not just "on paper" anymore? I never thought it was possible. No. Can't be, they must respect the cheerleaders as they do their honorable team symbok. I guess they started somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The New York Times is fake news. Any cheerleader who thinks that they are not a "sex symbol" should not be taken seriously... especially since they were there to shoot a calendar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 A giggle test or a boob fest. The Jills got the better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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