Zerovoltz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edmunds. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edmunds. Thank you. Edited April 27, 2018 by Zerovotlz Autocorrect, Edwards _> Edmunds 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Jury’s still to see who won the trade. Mahomes hasn’t really played nor has Tre. Edit: I meant Tre Edwards hasn’t played. Whoops! Edited April 27, 2018 by Idandria 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edwards. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edwards. Thank you. Yep your right... Unless Mahomes turns out to be another franchise QB we pass up then it doesn't matter who else we got. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Idandria said: Jury’s still to see who won the trade. Mahomes hasn’t really played nor has Tre. Tre hasn't really played? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, OJABBA said: Tre hasn't really played? Right? Kid played the whole season. As it stands right now, Tre has shown he’s a better CB than Mahomes is a QB. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edwards. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edwards. Thank you. Josh Allen has as many TDs and fewer INTs in the NFL than Mahomes. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edwards. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edwards. Thank you. G’head and think that.....till the season starts and Mahomes begins !@#$ing the NFL up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think the trade is going to work out well for both teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edwards. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edwards. Thank you. Are you sure? I mean, Mahomes hasn't played yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edwards. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edwards. Thank you. I would make that trade in a heart beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I would make that trade in a heart beat. I second that... Just need Zay to fight for Jesus on the field and not in a hotel room. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, The_Dude said: G’head and think that.....till the season starts and Mahomes begins !@#$ing the NFL up. Will believe it when I see it I dont hate the kid....I like what we got.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, OJABBA said: Tre hasn't really played? No only 16 games started 69 tackles a FF and 4ints Should have been NFL rookie of the year........was the Pro Football Focus ROTY 4 minutes ago, TheBeane said: I second that... Just need Zay to fight for Jesus on the field and not in a hotel room. Fighting for the football would be fine too;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I would make that trade in a heart beat. Unless Mahomes turns out to be a franchise QB. No way to say who "won" yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Chiefs Get : QB Pat Mahomes (R1 pick 10, 2017) Bills Get: CB Tre White (R1 pick 27, 2017) Pick 91 (R3 pick 91, 2017) packaged with other picks for trade up to 37. Rams used pick on S John Johnson. Bills go to (R2 pick 37, 2017) and select WR Zay Jones. Pick 21 (R1 pick 21, 2018) packaged with other picks for trade up to 16. Ravens traded out with Titans who used the pick on LB Rashaan Evans. Bills go to (R1 pick 16, 2018) and select LB Tremaine Edwards. Esentially, after it was all said and done, it was Mahomes for Tre White, Zay Jones and Tremaine Edwards. Thank you. Funny - this is opposite of what we did yesterday if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, cle23 said: Unless Mahomes turns out to be a franchise QB. No way to say who "won" yet. Isn't he from an "air raid offence" Those guys usual struggle big in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Fighting for the football would be fine too;) You're right. Fighting for the football would probably be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, cle23 said: Unless Mahomes turns out to be a franchise QB. No way to say who "won" yet. What if Mahomes turns out to be a franchise QB, but the Bills are a more successful team than the Chiefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Book is still wide open, son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Isn't he from an "air raid offence" Those guys usual struggle big in the NFL. Funny, isn't it? People railed against the Bills talking to Rudolph because he comes from a one read spread offense, but because the Bills didn't take a guy in Mahomes coming from the same type of offense then it's bad because Mahomes will be a star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Book is still wide open, son. It's barely been printed yet. The ink is still wet and the pages are unbound. I don't think this guy's much of a reader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 How bout if i told u we could of had Mahomes, White & Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 We traded away the NFL's leading passer (a bad rating system, but its the one they use) who had led the team to back to back division titles, having thrown for over 4000 yards with only 5 INTs.....and he still had a year left on his contract for only 20 million (cheap for veteran good QB these days) ....and we traded him to so that we could start someone else. (Mahomes) ....They didn't just get rid of a good, winning, popular QB with a year left on his contract for the hell of it. ...but I understand...need to see something more before you are convinced....can't blame anyone for that....but the actions sure do speak loudly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Who is Tremaine Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 HAHA how is the book closed? Mahomes has yet to play. If he turns out to be a top 5 or even top 10 QB and Allen doesn't pan out we clearly lose the trade. This is a QB league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, OJABBA said: Tre hasn't really played? 22 minutes ago, K-9 said: Right? Kid played the whole season. As it stands right now, Tre has shown he’s a better CB than Mahomes is a QB. Oops! I meant Tre Edwards. We have 2 Tre’s on the team now, and they are both on D. What are the odds eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Isn't he from an "air raid offence" Those guys usual struggle big in the NFL. Right. No way to tell yet. Tons of NFL people were high on Mahomes last year, so maybe something there. He could suck too. But until he gets a chance to play, you can't say who did better. 7 minutes ago, OJABBA said: What if Mahomes turns out to be a franchise QB, but the Bills are a more successful team than the Chiefs? Unless Allen is a franchise guy too, they won't be better. It all depends on how the 2 QBs turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think Mahomes will be an All-Pro, Andy Reid knows QBs and I liked Mahomes coming out. Tre is a shutdown corner and I like Edmunds so I think we added two studs but what it comes down to is Allen vs Mahomes. I like Allen but passing on Mahomes was incredibly risky and could end up getting McD and Beane fired if Mahomes turns into a star and Allen busts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, cle23 said: Right. No way to tell yet. Tons of NFL people were high on Mahomes last year, so maybe something there. He could suck too. But until he gets a chance to play, you can't say who did better. Unless Allen is a franchise guy too, they won't be better. It all depends on how the 2 QBs turn out. I don't know that. For all we know McCarron could end up being "good enough" and the Bills could be a really good team. The point is, there are many variables, and Mahomes could become a very good QB, and the Bills could still have more success. It's all about how the team is being put together. All that really matters is which TEAM is more successful. There have been trades by the Patriots that people have said "How stupid. The Pats lost that trade!", yet they kept being successful. Maybe a player was really good, but a pain in the ass (like Lawyer Milloy). Edited April 27, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) This is a joke right? I guarantee Smith has better stats than Mahomes next year lol http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen?id=32462018-0002-5600-29bc-8750224414bd Allen is graded higher by the same guy Edited April 27, 2018 by Buffalo716 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Idandria said: Oops! I meant Tre Edwards. We have 2 Tre’s on the team now, and they are both on D. What are the odds eh? I think you mean....Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I think Mahomes will be an All-Pro, Andy Reid knows QBs and I liked Mahomes coming out. Tre is a shutdown corner and I like Edmunds so I think we added two studs but what it comes down to is Allen vs Mahomes. I like Allen but passing on Mahomes was incredibly risky and could end up getting McD and Beane fired if Mahomes turns into a star and Allen busts. Beane wasn't even with the team when we passed on Mahomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Beane wasn't even with the team when we passed on Mahomes. I knew that but McD was, life isn't fair though. If Mahomes turns into Brett Favre 2.0 and Allen turns into Paxton Lynch, McD will not be able to persevere that shitstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: I knew that but McD was, life isn't fair though. If Mahomes turns into Brett Favre 2.0 and Allen turns into Paxton Lynch, McD will not be able to persevere that shitstorm. I dunno - he took a pretty bad team to the playoffs in year one. He's trying to build a winning culture. Allen seems like a natural "Buffalo" fit. There's always another Quarterback - at least these guys have decided to take some shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 What's the title of this book? Trade Breakdowns For Dummies? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: I dunno - he took a pretty bad team to the playoffs in year one. He's trying to build a winning culture. Allen seems like a natural "Buffalo" fit. There's always another Quarterback - at least these guys have decided to take some shots. No doubt, I like Allen too, he is a Buffalo guy and I think he'll be great. I also believe Allen is a much better prospect than Mahomes is to be completely honest but if Allen does indeed bust and Mahomes does go on to be great, there is going to **** molecules stuck to the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: No doubt, I like Allen too, he is a Buffalo guy and I think he'll be great. I also believe Allen is a much better prospect than Mahomes is to be completely honest but if Allen does indeed bust and Mahomes does go on to be great, there is going to **** molecules stuck to the air. Yeah... I mean... we had a 17 year playoff drought. We're used to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Not that this means anything, but I guess Pat Mahomes struggled at the start of OTAs in KC. But it sounds like they are throwing an awful lot at him on purpose to see what he's good at - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000934448/article/patrick-mahomes-practice-struggles-dont-worry-reid Quote Andy Reid and the Chiefs coaching staff have thrown the kitchen sink at their new starter during offseason practices. During Thursday's OTA session open to the media, Mahomes struggled, completing just 4 of 15 passes with an interception in a full-squad session. He went 7 for 12 with an INT in 7-on-7 drills, per ESPN's Adam Teicher. It was a good read. Andy Reid is a smart coach. I think Mahomes likely has success under him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 That was steal for the Bills thats for sure. We need Zay to really have a break out year. Even if he doesnt pan out i would still take Tre White and Tremaine Edmunds over Patrick Mahomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Pat Mahomes is Josh Allen with worse footwork, less arm strength, and coming from a college spread system. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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