die hard bills fan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Let's hope they take Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: This did set the market for what it will take. Value chart needed- Could the 12 pick and then our first pick in the second and first pick in the third and next years 1st get us up to 2? It's open bidding so what do you do if somebody else offers equivalent value? Where do you stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Well with what the Jets paid to get to #3... Probably have to sell the farm now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, buffaloaggie said: We traded up to get Losman. Bills panicked when they heard the Packers wanted him. Packers stood pat and drafted Aaron Rodgers the next year. Sometimes, you need to wait even longer. 20 years is not long enough? THIS is the TIME.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 We sit around here and a team like Denver or Miami is going to jump the jets and just ruin our offseason. I would be making a move to 1 or 2 within the hour here because this started the clock for every other team. We can sit around with coy smiles on our face like “wait and see what we do” Then wake up and be completely blocked out of the top 3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Elite Poster said: Can't wait til we get Roquan Smith at 12 and take Mason Rudolph at 22, eh? If i was a betting man and things stayed as they were, I'd say a combo of Lamar Jackson and Vita Vea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBud420 said: Allen is not getting to 12. I don't know what your smoking Even if he did, we’d hopefully pass. Fools gold. Emphasis on the fools part. Edited March 17, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I just keep hoping that the Jets got to 3 because the Giants have already decided they're giving us 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: I wonder if the Jets tried trading up to 2 but the Giants didn’t want to move out of that spot. Not good for us if the plan was to move up even further. unless the deal is basically already done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Wow, this sucks. We can't force teams to take our trade offer. We might have to change our plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, mattynh said: Eli is old and not that good and this draft class has good qb talent and they happen to have #2nand rebuilding. It is totally reasonable for the giants to take a qb. Lets hope not but how can you not see that. Don’t think for a second the jets did not make the same offer to the giants and they said no. They may want Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Can’t imagine the Colts GM didn’t call Beane to see if he would beat the Jets offer before they agreed to the trade with the Jets. Would be GM malpractice not to maximize their return for that pick. We’re not trading for the Giants pick now. If Beane wouldn’t pay the price for the 3rd pick there is no way he’s going to get raped to move up to the 2nd pick. They will likely wait and see how things fall and possibly move up some from 12 if by some chance their guy drops or just wait at 12 and restock the cupboards with all their picks and hope McCarron is a diamond in the rough. Quite possible that Bills had an offer in and Jets upped the ante. Beane said he wouldn't overpay for a QB. Jets were willing to go higher. Time will tell who made the wise decision. Colts definitely got a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: I wonder if the Jets tried trading up to 2 but the Giants didn’t want to move out of that spot. Not good for us if the plan was to move up even further. Reports said they went for 1 but settled for 3. I wonder if someone is going for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: And has a few years left. Maybe. At best. I don't doubt that the Giants are trying to win with Manning until he retires or his ability falls off a cliff (which could happen at any point). But they aren't likely to pick at #2 again, and NFL franchises have a longer horizon than one or two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: In 2004, GMs were still pretty awful at evaluating QBs. Mahomes went top 10 and a team traded up to get him last year. These same guys that were running drafts in the early 2000s said that guy was a second or third round pick. TIMES CHANGE, but the Bills don't. If people insist on using the Bills' past results as a predictor of future results, then you can't ignore how the Jets have biffed on EVERY SINGLE TIME they traded up into the top 5 (see the linked tweet above). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Giants may not even be thinking of trading regardless of offer. In a year or 2, they’re in the same situation as the Bills at QB if they don’t snag a top guy this year. I think Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield are out of the running for us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Florio is suggesting he knows that the Bills would’ve made the move to 3 if the Jets didn’t - the Colts forced the Jets to make the trade now. Again, if Beane screws up this draft he should be out. They (McD) screwed up last year’s draft but lucked out. Two in a row means you’re fired. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Greg Gabriel @greggabe 1m1 minute ago There are some draft analysts assuming Giants want a QB at 2. I’m not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: This is all about the Colts not wanting to drop out of the top 10. They might still be able to get Chubb at 6. It will be telling to see what the Giants think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I wonder if the Jets tried trading up to 2 but the Giants didn’t want to move out of that spot. Not good for us if the plan was to move up even further. Or the Giants were saying F U to their crosstown rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I just keep hoping that the Jets got to 3 because the Giants have already decided they're giving us 2. It's either that or Defcon 1 at OBD now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 "Beane is snoozing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This a big time gut punch for sure. They gave up three 2nds to move three spots, yeah i dont see beane pulling a ditka to move up. We'll end up with rudolph and i will puke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Everyone should relax. If Beane wanted the third pick, he would have been able to outbid the jets. im pretty confident that we either will make the trade for the Giants pick, or we have a bunch of guys graded the same and we will move up to get whichever one is last off the board. only 6 more weeks of madness... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Beane is sleeping with Gettleman don't stress the Jets. Go enjoy St. Patrick's day and be thankful that for once the frat boy mentality of the NFL is on the Bills side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Maybe the Giants have no interest in trading back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: They may want Barkley Then we trade for #4 if we can. after they draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is why I said the Bills needed to trade into top 5 now and not wait. We better not hear Beane at the post draft press conference with a 2nd round QB saying they inquired about moving up but wasn't comfortable with what get have to give up. You have the ammo to move up. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Which would be terrible. They would've have passed on opportunity to draft QBs TWO YEARS IN A ROW which is grounds for termination in the NFL given our QB situation. Giants need to be the target and they need to do what they need to do to get the pick. Some people never learn. The Bills have drafted well throughout the draft. Where has it got them? NO WHERE. Why? Because they ignore the most important position in QB. I'd be shocked if McBeane repeat the same and they'll be headed down the inevitable road of unemployment. Beane was not there last April unless you want to buy into the theory he was a puppet master from afar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Based on the math the Jets paid roughly a 25% premium. The Bills would be looking at 12, 22, 53, 56 and a 2019 2nd. It’s a giant price now. Too much for this QB class, unfortunately, IMO. I'm a Rosen guy, but giving up that much to get him will set the team back for years. Allen at #12 is looking more like the new path forward... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 54s54 seconds ago The #Jets explored all options for this trade... including possibly going up to No. 1. In the end, they settled on No. 3. ... Meanwhile, the #Colts fielded calls from other QB-needy teams, but felt good about moving to No. 6 and dealing with the #Jets. That’s the key point, Colts felt good about 6, not 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said: This is why I said the Bills needed to trade into top 5 now and not wait. We better not hear Beane at the post draft press conference with a 2nd round QB saying they inquires about moving up but wasn't comfortable with what get have to give up. You have the ammo to move up. Do it. That is exactly what we are going to hear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ol Dirty B Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's awful news. I hope they are confident in some talks or something with the giants. Otherwise, get these dudes the !@#$ out of here. I understand 6 vs 12, but they could have beaten that offer. If they didn't do so and the giants haven't been as keen on trading out as people speculate, this has been an absolute disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Real McCoy said: 20 years is not long enough? THIS is the TIME.... So, you're saying we overpay and blow the whole load on the #2 pick? Yes, we're panicking again. Face it, we f'd up when we drafted Cyrus Kouandjio instead of Jimmy Garoppolo because someone in the organization thought Manuel was the one and only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I wonder if the Jets tried trading up to 2 but the Giants didn’t want to move out of that spot. Not good for us if the plan was to move up even further. Duh. Of course they did. Giants said no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I gotta hand it to the Jets which I hate. They are really trying to fix QB once and for all. Bridgewater, McCown and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, RiotAct said: wait... that’s all the Jets gave up???? Yikes. Come on Beane, you’re better than them! well they had the 6th pick thats why they were able to give 3 #2's...the bills need to move from 12,22 to I'd say not #2 with the Giants,but if they really love Rosen or someone else just go straight to #1 and trade with Cleveland.....12,22,our second and clevelands 3rd back to Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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