cba fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, Yard Monkey said: All these pages of posts and no reference, picture or ripping on his god awful tattoo? Earlier I noted he has the ugliest tats since Italians invented chest hair. I got a little run form that but it died down quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Not impressed. Who was the guy that Seattle signed when Russell Wilson beat him out in camp? McCarron is the next "that guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: What a freaking joke..........happy for a back up who hasn't shown squat .......how long are we going to keep these blinders on .........2-16 here we come They play 18 games now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, KRT88 said: I have to laugh. The guy has barely played, spent 4 seasons holding a chip board and he gonna make $10 million! What a great freakin job being an NFL backup! The guy is gonna make more than Shady and he’s been the entire offense for several years! McCoy should demand a raise. Mmmmmm....chip board! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, KRT88 said: I have to laugh. The guy has barely played, spent 4 seasons holding a chip board and he gonna make $10 million! What a great freakin job being an NFL backup! The guy is gonna make more than Shady and he’s been the entire offense for several years! McCoy should demand a raise. Bell is making the most money ever as a rb at 14 mil. It’s the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Checker vs chess. The Jets signing Mccown and Bridgewater after missing out on Cousins checkers. Waiting for the market to shrink and getting a guy 50 cents on the dollar compared to like deals is chess. Still can fill needs of the team through FA still have a crest of picks to get your guys in the draft chess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Well played, Mr. Beane. Well played. McCarron + what looks like one of the Big Four QBs in the draft is about as good as Bills fans could have hoped for. On McCarron: 1. He's probably not going to be that good. Andy Dalton is a fine, better than the median NFL starting QB. He makes a lot of money but would have been easily tradeable. But the Bengals had no interest in committing to McCarron instead of Dalton. So I have to believe they didn't see that much potential in him. 2. But McCarron has a reasonable chance - maybe it's 1 in 3, maybe it's 1 in 5, who knows - of being significantly better than people think. In other words, he has upside, and the Mike Glennons and Josh McCowns and Matt Moores and Trevor Siemians of the world don't. So for a team like the Bills, McCarron is perfect. Not "just" a placeholder; a placeholder who could turn out to be, well, an Andy Dalton 2.0. 3.He's pretty affordable. If he plays really well, the rookie sits for longer. McCarron gets his bonus, but then lots of teams would want to trade for him. If he sucks, well, the rookie takes over earlier rather than later, and you've got an ordinary backup in McCarron at an affordable price. Edited March 15, 2018 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) The Browns wanted him and then changed their mind. ... in favor of Tyrod. Edited March 15, 2018 by snafu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, snafu said: Not impressed. Who was the guy that Seattle signed when Russell Wilson beat him out in camp? McCarron is the next "that guy". Matt Flynn and that would be awesome if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: If you're the owner, sure. We're fans. What are we going to do? Stop cheering for the Bills because the owner didn't know how to budget his billions? NO. But you are going to be an unhappy fan because they miss budgeted so now they can not afford to bring in talent to be a competitive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I'm not super high on AJ (think he's just been on loaded teams), at worst, we have a vet backup qb who can be a mentor. At best, maybe he is a hidden gem. Much more upside than TJ Yates or Matt Cassel. Even if he doesn't start, I think it's good signing. The best that can be said for AJM is that he hasn't proven that he sucks...yet. And his contract allows for him to easily be removed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrinkinBuddy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Love this signing. Very strange year indeed. So many QBs available. Cousins, Keenum, Bradford, Teddy, McCown, McCarron. 4 Potential top 10 rookies and a couple more rooks with potential. I think Beane played it perfectly. Only 32 teams. Let each of the QB needy teams overpay and wait a bit. McCarron is faced with signing as a back-up or going to a spot where he can start. Beane then has the negotiating power. If it's under $10 mil he did well. McCarron's unproven but certainly had some suitors when with the Bengals. There's some potential there. Certainly they need to go up and get a QB. For the first time in a long time this front office is going all in on finding a QB. Drafting one of the top 4 rookies is in the Bills plans. Even top 5 drafted QBs are no guarantee. You put 2 QBs with potential on your roster, take 2 shots instead of one. Let them compete. If they're both good, they ship McCarron out for a 2nd rounder. Edited March 15, 2018 by DrinkinBuddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, KRT88 said: I have to laugh. The guy has barely played, spent 4 seasons holding a chip board and he gonna make $10 million! What a great freakin job being an NFL backup! The guy is gonna make more than Shady and he’s been the entire offense for several years! McCoy should demand a raise. How about they pay $20m for Sam Bradford instead? Worst case our QB has a hot wife, it's about time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, vincec said: You making up impossible stuff and claiming that it’s just as probable as realistic options? Yeah, actually I see that everyday in the alternative news media so I’m very familiar with it. So, you are stating Peterman beating out McCarron is a realistic option? Our conversation is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: So go over the cap! Who the hell cares? The Eagles are over the cap, and that trophy still looks pretty good. Holly cap hell what are you breathing in that LA air?? NO TEAM GOES OVER THE CAP. On a yearly basis some teams are able to spend more then the cap legally within cap as you can bring forward surplus you did not spend the year before, but over the long haul all teams spend exactly the same amounts on a yearly avg.. PS: you do not win when you spend way less than cap as Bills Browns and others have done in the near past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: So, you are stating Peterman beating out McCarron is a realistic option? Our conversation is done. If you are saying that it’s just as likely that McCarron, a career backup behind Andy Dalton, who was the last QB to sign in feee agency is just as likely to throw for 4,000 yards and 30 TDS as to lose out to Peterman as a backup then you don’t really have a grasp of reality. Or probabilities. But I agree with one thing: our conversation is done, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: The best that can be said for AJM is that he hasn't proven that he sucks...yet. And his contract allows for him to easily be removed. That's very well said. It is also true that if he plays well he can also be easily retained at least through the current CBA. Really, I don't know how someone could be unhappy with this deal. The Bills still have beaucoup meaningful picks, cap space and what appears to me to be a very well run FO. They hold all the cards going into the draft and can go in whatever direction they feel best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Where is SaviorPeterman with his inside sources at his high level business meetings saying the Bills were all in on Peterman? He went into a high level board meeting and never came out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Steptide said: Is it just me or this dude WAY out of his league? I wish I was playing in that league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Cripple Creek said: That's very well said. It is also true that if he plays well he can also be easily retained at least through the current CBA. Really, I don't know how someone could be unhappy with this deal. The Bills still have beaucoup meaningful picks, cap space and what appears to me to be a very well run FO. They hold all the cards going into the draft and can go in whatever direction they feel best. The reason to be unhappy is that McCarron doesn’t really represent a strong plan B if the new rookie QB isn’t ready to start. He has never been a starter and has some real question marks as to whether he ever could be a successful one. I am fine with dumping Taylor, but he was a .500 starter. That was a legitimate short term plan B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrinkinBuddy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Bills sign QB A.J. McCarron to backup deal Bills signed QB A.J. McCarron, formerly of the Bengals, to a two-year, $10 million contract. He can earn another $6 million in incentives. McCarron was linked to Cleveland, but that ship sailed as soon as the Browns traded for Tyrod Taylor. Ironically, McCarron is now headed to Orchard Park as Taylor's replacement. McCarron's $5 million annual salary puts him in the Chase Daniel ballpark, suggesting the Bills view him as a backup. Even if McCarron does open the year as Buffalo's starter, he'll just be keeping the seat warm for whatever quarterback the Bills end up drafting in April. Great contract! We've seen what Kirk Cousins, Case Keenum and Sam Bradford can do, and Teddy Bridgewater's knee might prevent him from becoming the quarterback many expected. With that in mind, AJ McCarron just might have had the highest potential ceiling among all of the signal-callers on this year's free-agent market. The Bills landed McCarron—healthy, 27 years old and with nearly all the tread on his tires—for only a two-year, $10 million commitment. Yes, Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reports that number could increase to $16.5 million if McCarron hits a slew of incentives, but that would actually be a good thing for Buffalo. It would probably mean the McCarron experiment has been a success. And don't be surprised if that happens, because the former Alabama star has been one of the best backups in football the last four years, and he put up impressive numbers in relief of Andy Dalton in Cincinnati. Worst case, he's a relatively cheap stopgap. This was a low-risk, high reward move for a Bills team that might soon look real smart for sitting back while the Vikings, Broncos, Cardinals and Jets played a frantic and expensive game of musical chairs. Grade: A+ 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Steptide said: Is it just me or this dude WAY out of his league? Out of her league? LMAO. Everyone is out of Katherine Webb's league. The guy has to stand behind her to hide the 24 hour boner he carries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Where the hell did all of these ass-hats come from? FFS it's like this place is crackopalooza and everyone is looking for a rock. Mind numbing how you end up with the lens you have on life. I would love to know what real life is like for you -- thinking it cant be good. There is very little to not like about this move, and those of you that are trying are grasping at straws. This train is pointed north ladies, quit looking in the rearview mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engelwood Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: He's not a man. he's a PeterGOD. I am sorry to be politically correct it should be Peterperson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: Out of her league? LMAO. Everyone is out of Katherine Webb's league. The guy has to stand behind her to hide the 24 hour boner he carries. Alot of hair and teeth. I don't know, I suppose I would take it for a test spin. If she starts naying like a horse the deals off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, simool said: Alot of hair and teeth. I don't know, I suppose I would take it for a test spin. If she starts naying like a horse the deals off. LOL. Yeah. I'm thinking you have a girlfriend that's 10 times better looking. it's 10:45 and Miss America ain't walking in your door, Captain Critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Tyrod's friend said: LOL. Yeah. I'm thinking you have a girlfriend that's 10 times better looking. it's 10:45 and Miss America ain't walking in your door, Captain Critical. Girlfriend. Ha. I bought the whole damn cow man. Just trying to point out that no woman is out of your league. If you think so, you have already lost the battle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Mike Rodak Why AJ McCarron should not be compared to Tyrod Taylor Swapping Tyrod Taylor for AJ McCarron may be a sign that the Bills are loading up to make a big splash on draft day for their franchise quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: So does anyone actually know the deal particulars? 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/14/aj-mccarron-can-make-up-to-16-5-million-over-two-years/ These are the supposed details of the McCarron contract Edited March 15, 2018 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Am I crazy, or did Mike Rodak just make sense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, simool said: Girlfriend. Ha. I bought the whole damn cow man. Just trying to point out that no woman is out of your league. If you think so, you have already lost the battle. I'll reiterate that bragging about your love life on a Bills message board is a big L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattt9998 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: McCarron + Pick #65 >>> Tyrod Let me fix this... McCarron >>> Tyrod Pick #65 >>> Tyrod I will miss watching Tyrod get out of pressure and run for it on 3rd and long. Looking forward to a QB who is good at throwing the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Bills sign QB A.J. McCarron (2 years, $10 million): A+ Grade How did this happen? In an offseason in which Sam Bradford got $20 million for a year, Josh McCown received $10 million for a season, and Case Keenum obtained $18 million per year, A.J. McCarron somehow was stuck with far less money than all three. McCarron, with this deal, is set to earn as much as Chase Daniel, which is unbelievable. In the Daniel write-up, I wrote that average backup quarterbacks should earn $4-5 million. McCarron is certainly not a typical No. 2 signal-caller. He's a premium reserve quarterback; if not a below-average starter. I still expect the Bills to select a quarterback in the opening round, as I detailed a potential NFL Draft trade with the Giants that could occur. McCarron would provide insurance just in case Buffalo couldn't make the move. He would also be able to start while the rookie signal-caller is being developed. This is an outstanding signing that is worthy of an A+ grade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, dgr81 said: Wow! That's all? Beane continues to hit it out of the park! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just so we are clear on this before you guys go to bed, for the 2018 and 2019 season the Buffalo Bills will have 3 QBs on their roster. One of which is a project player that they love who will be in his 2nd and 3rd year hopefully growing as expected. One who was coveted by the Patriots, has a 93.6 pro QB rating, has 4 years under his belt, took the bengals within a RB fumble of their first playoff victory in 20 years, won 2 national championships at Bama, all the while going 36-4 and is their all time leading passer. Finally, a top 5 draft pick, the highest Buffalo has ever taken a QB in their history, and from the greatest QB class since 2004 and maybe the third best class in the last 1/3 of a century... ...all for a total of about $12 million per year. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Ross was right, we got the guy for peanuts. This was probably the best signing Beane pulled off thus far because of the value for the $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I bet he goes back to number 10..instead of 5 like TT had and he wore in Cinci? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Just so we are clear on this before you guys go to bed, for the 2018 and 2019 season the Buffalo Bills will have 3 QBs on their roster. One of which is a project player that they love who will be in his 2nd and 3rd year hopefully growing as expected. One who was coveted by the Patriots, has a 93.6 pro QB rating, has 4 years under his belt, took the bengals within a RB fumble of their first playoff victory in 20 years, won 2 national championships at Bama, all the while going 36-4 and is their all time leading passer. Finally, a top 5 draft pick, the highest Buffalo has ever taken a QB in their history, and from the greatest QB class since 2004 and maybe the third best class in the last 1/3 of a century... ...all for a total of about $12 million per year. I'll clear it up real quick. The project player isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 43 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/14/aj-mccarron-can-make-up-to-16-5-million-over-two-years/ These are the supposed details of the McCarron contract McCarron's contract calls for him to make 4.9 mil. in 2018 , if he doesn't beat out Peterman for the starting job , no problem. Where do you get a backup QB that cheap , plus he will be able to tutor Allen or Rosen.I really do not see the hate on Peterman , especially when McDermott seems to be in his corner..I know where it started and why but , that is an issue that is gone. SOOOO I would hope you Bill's Fans would try to root for anybody one the roster and the rest of you go on to grossing in private. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I do not know how all these moves will play out on the field but it looks great so far. It sure is nice to not have an idiot running this front office for the first time in 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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