USABuffaloFan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tyrod-taylor?id=2495240 Read Taylor's Bio from draft. He really didn't grow. Same player he always was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, simool said: Puhlease McCarron's concerns pale in comparison to the problems we would have had if they signed Moore. This signing made my frigging night. I though for sure they were going to sign Moore. No I was referring to Rosen. I love the McCarron signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, USABuffaloFan said: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tyrod-taylor?id=2495240 Read Taylor's Bio from draft. He really didn't grow. Same player he always was. Why are you trying to make this thread about Tyrod? This comment is better placed in one of the other 2 million Tyrod threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, MDH said: Even without his cash and position I wouldn’t look at this couple and think something was off about it. Maybe it’s just me, she’s pretty, but isn’t some unbelievable beauty. True. The guy doesn't look like some total choad dating a cheerleader. Now, put her next to say Glennon and things look a little off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, HappyDays said: One man's opinion: Wow - Savior Peterman is reborn as?? YardsPerPass????? Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: But when I hear fans here say "I'm not crazy about McCarron, but if we didn't overpay, I'll be okay" makes no sense to me. I think part of the disconnect here is that you're framing this with the context of him leading us to a Superbowl victory. I can say "Hey, if I win the Powerball tomorrow, no one will care what I spend on anything" Both are true, just not likely. But the odds are he will be a backup. If you're paying a competent backup $5M a year, that's a pretty good deal. If you're paying him $15M a year, well, now you're just tying up money that could be used to better the team in other areas. And there are consequences to going over the cap. Teams simply cannot go over the cap. The NFL can reject any new deal that places a team over the cap. If a team releases a player and suddenly realizes the full amount of that players signing bonus, they have 7 days to get back under the cap. If a team attempts to deliberately circumvent the cap, they can be fined or forfeit draft picks (See Pittsburgh, San Fran). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Why do you guys keep bringing up price as one reason to be cool with a football player, as if you're the one's cutting the checks? I mean, I understand it if your neighbor bought a car and you think "That's a nice car, but I wouldn't pay $xxxxx for it." Because, y'know, you're gonna buy a car of your own one day. But pretty much no one here is going to drop $20M on a quarterback, and to somehow think you'll be okay with the pick as long as the team didn't overpay makes absolutely, positively no sense at all. It's just the weirdest thing to discuss. Because it's a salary cap sport. Good teams manage the cap well. To overpay a completely an unproven guy like AJ would be stupid. Most people thought the money the Bears gave Glennon last year was completely stupid and it was. As it turns it out, the AJ deal is very reasonable and should make you feel better about the current regime's ability to make smart deals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s certainly fair. His arm isn’t a concern though. No. His arm is the best in the draft in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So does anyone actually know the deal particulars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Why do you guys keep bringing up price as one reason to be cool with a football player, as if you're the one's cutting the checks? I mean, I understand it if your neighbor bought a car and you think "That's a nice car, but I wouldn't pay $xxxxx for it." Because, y'know, you're gonna buy a car of your own one day. But pretty much no one here is going to drop $20M on a quarterback, and to somehow think you'll be okay with the pick as long as the team didn't overpay makes absolutely, positively no sense at all. It's just the weirdest thing to discuss. OK. WE have not had these questions for a while as we have answered them many times. No disrespect intended at all, here are the reasons for why we find your question weird. We all get "it is not our money" "that we do not write the checks" As a fan what Fans want is a competitive good team to challenge for playoffs every year and have a chance at a Super Bowl every once in awhile. If your team spends more than market rate and overpays someone, they have less money to spend on the cap and can not bring in better players. EX: they could sign Aaron Maybin out of retirement to play DE for $150 million per year. Then could not afford any other decent players. They could sign a stud WR for mega money and then have to fill out WR roster with scrubs. Would you then say you do not understand why fans would be upset with that?? Just wondering how some fans can not understand this salary cap vs acquiring good players equation. Signing AJ to low contract means they can sign two more FA and be a "better" team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What a freaking joke..........happy for a back up who hasn't shown squat .......how long are we going to keep these blinders on .........2-16 here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: The idea of judging a player, in part, based on what someone else paid for him is ridiculous. Especially since most coaches don't do that, unless a meddlesome owner forces them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: So does anyone actually know the deal particulars? What we know for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, MDH said: Even without his cash and position I wouldn’t look at this couple and think something was off about it. Maybe it’s just me, she’s pretty, but isn’t some unbelievable beauty. His tattoo is so awful but I agree. Face it, women aren't as superficial as men. Physical appearance isn't their main attraction to a man (I'm sure that good news for a lot of posters ). Of course the trade off for dating/ marrying an attractive woman is dealing with their craziness. The key is finding the right balance between crazy and hot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Doc said: No, it's really 2 years for $10M, worth up to $16.5 if AJM starts every game the next 2 years. Is that what it is? What if he starts only every game of 2018? This is incredible.... sooooOOOOOOoooooo glad we didn't go after Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, 1billsfan said: He has consistency issues with his mechanics, not major flaws that need round the clock attention. This is the new NFL, where you create mismatches when you have a better hand you can play. If they draft him, he'll see the field in 2018. He has Major issues with his feet and base. Look i like his ceiling too but not going to downplay his issues. And it would be asnine playing him anywhere else on the field other than QB when in development Edited March 15, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, liverpoolkev said: What a freaking joke..........happy for a back up who hasn't shown squat .......how long are we going to keep these blinders on .........2-16 here we come So the Bills are going to make the playoffs after going 1-15, win a playoff game, and then lose one? That would be one hell of a season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, QCity said: I think part of the disconnect here is that you're framing this with the context of him leading us to a Superbowl victory. I can say "Hey, if I win the Powerball tomorrow, no one will care what I spend on anything" Both are true, just not likely. But the odds are he will be a backup. If you're paying a competent backup $5M a year, that's a pretty good deal. If you're paying him $15M a year, well, now you're just tying up money that could be used to better the team in other areas. And there are consequences to going over the cap. Teams simply cannot go over the cap. The NFL can reject any new deal that places a team over the cap. If a team releases a player and suddenly realizes the full amount of that players signing bonus, they have 7 days to get back under the cap. If a team attempts to deliberately circumvent the cap, they can be fined or forfeit draft picks (See Pittsburgh, San Fran). I agree with all of this. I genuinely do. What I don't agree with is the concept that a fan's decision to like a player should be, in part, based on what he is paid. When I read someone say "I'm not a big fan of the hire, but if we didn't overpay, I'm okay with it," literally makes no sense to me. 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: To overpay a completely an unproven guy like AJ would be stupid. Agreed. But again, to suggest you aren't big on the hire, but you'll be okay if the money is okay makes no sense to me. Even if they overpaid him, it should have no bearing on whether you like the hire. He's either going to help or he's not. You either like the skill set he brings to the the team or you don't. But to judge that based on what his agent got for him? Makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Is that what it is? What if he starts only every game of 2018? This is incredible.... sooooOOOOOOoooooo glad we didn't go after Foles. If he plays at a high level in 2018 and and leads team to playoffs and has a great finish in playoffs........... dreaming of course........then they sign him to a long term extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What we know for now. What a great deal!! Is anyone out there not convinced Beane is a total Gangster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: What a freaking joke..........happy for a back up who hasn't shown squat .......how long are we going to keep these blinders on .........2-16 here we come He cost just 5 million dollars... The same price as Chase Daniel... That is a freaking steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Yard Monkey said: All these pages of posts and no reference, picture or ripping on his god awful tattoo? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: What a freaking joke..........happy for a back up who hasn't shown squat .......how long are we going to keep these blinders on .........2-16 here we come BBMB no doubt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, PolishDave said: Why are you trying to make this thread about Tyrod? This comment is better placed in one of the other 2 million Tyrod threads. Really! Taylor is gone people! Let's not talk about him anymore!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 AJ McCarron at 5M AVV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giving assets up for Foles. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, Doc said: They dumbed-down the offense for Foles...and still beat 2 of the best defenses in the NFL. Not sure I follow that logic. No one is saying he/she will stop cheering for the Bills if they overpay for a player. Again what we're saying is that if you can get a guy for a good deal, it allows you to get more players. No, it's really 2 years for $10M, worth up to $16.5 if AJM starts every game the next 2 years. I doubt that’s the incentive... I’ll bet it’s tied to percentage of snaps and the sliding scale likely gets him there far lower than 100% not a big deal but just the more likely structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just curious... are certain posters (*ahem* ) complaining that we are bringing in another team's backup to start for us again and how it's groundhog day? I kid... I kid... love all around today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 McCarron may not even beat out Peterman, let alone a #2 or #3 overall selected QB (assum8ng the Bills get one). This acquisition accomplishes very little, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: You're at a loss because I'm not making my point clear enough. Let me try it another way: if AJ McCarron takes the Bills to the SB this season, is anyone really going to give a crap what the team paid for him? Even if the team went over the cap? No. In fact, hell no. If AJ McCarron ends up leading the BIlls to a 1-15 record, is anyone going to stand around saying "Well, that sucked but at least we're under the cap because we got him for a bargain!"? No. They'll be too busy burning his jersey. The idea of judging a player, in part, based on what someone else paid for him is ridiculous. I totally get what you are saying but you are not understanding what everyone else is saying or you choose not too. Overpaying consistently for people lands you in cap hell. Yeah the Eagles were lucky to win that SB, but thats the exception rather than the norm. When was the last time the cheatriots were in Cap Hell......how many shiny silver things do they have. Bottom line, yeah individually it really doesn't make a difference but a million here a million there and all of a sudden you have to start cutting good players and then the slide starts...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) This is nothing more than a BU contract for a BU QB. Perfect signing. Not like like regime giving a 90M LTD to a BU QB when he still had a Cheap BU QB year left on contract Edited March 15, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Well designed and executed offense can defeat the best defenses even if they only run a handful of plays from multiple formations. Nothing new about that. I'm done talking about Foles. Hey, they might not even need Wentz. They should just play Sudfeld. 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: I doubt that’s the incentive... I’ll bet it’s tied to percentage of snaps and the sliding scale likely gets him there far lower than 100% not a big deal but just the more likely structure I was going off the "$6.5M in playing time incentives." If it had said "playing time and performance incentives" that would be different. But no biggee either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Where is SaviorPeterman with his inside sources at his high level business meetings saying the Bills were all in on Peterman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Watching his highlights on Youtube, it looks like he throws a nice spiral & some accurate passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, vincec said: McCarron may not even beat out Peterman, let alone a #2 or #3 overall selected QB (assum8ng the Bills get one). This acquisition accomplishes very little, IMO. Or, he may throw 30 TD’s and for 4 grand in yards. See how that works? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 57 minutes ago, NY Nole said: $16.5 over 2 years (including incentives) — Beane is the man! This is a steal. I have to laugh. The guy has barely played, spent 4 seasons holding a chip board and he gonna make $10 million! What a great freakin job being an NFL backup! The guy is gonna make more than Shady and he’s been the entire offense for several years! McCoy should demand a raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, vincec said: McCarron may not even beat out Peterman, let alone a #2 or #3 overall selected QB (assum8ng the Bills get one). This acquisition accomplishes very little, IMO. I'm not super high on AJ (think he's just been on loaded teams), at worst, we have a vet backup qb who can be a mentor. At best, maybe he is a hidden gem. Much more upside than TJ Yates or Matt Cassel. Even if he doesn't start, I think it's good signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Or, he may throw 30 TD’s and for 4 grand in yards. See how that works? You making up impossible stuff and claiming that it’s just as probable as realistic options? Yeah, actually I see that everyday in the alternative news media so I’m very familiar with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, KRT88 said: I have to laugh. The guy has barely played, spent 4 seasons holding a chip board and he gonna make $10 million! What a great freakin job being an NFL backup! The guy is gonna make more than Shady and he’s been the entire offense for several years! McCoy should demand a raise. Only will make 10M if on the roster for 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, KRT88 said: I have to laugh. The guy has barely played, spent 4 seasons holding a chip board and he gonna make $10 million! What a great freakin job being an NFL backup! The guy is gonna make more than Shady and he’s been the entire offense for several years! McCoy should demand a raise. Very few things are better than being a backup qb. And rbs are treated like old pornstars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: What a freaking joke..........happy for a back up who hasn't shown squat .......how long are we going to keep these blinders on .........2-16 here we come Who cares. We won 9 games with crap qb play last year. Mccarron is 2-1 with 6 tds and 2 ints. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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