Cordy Glenn traded to bengals

[Victory Formation]

Just now, Tyrod's friend said:

Go out there and f the Patriots over. Sign Nate Solder to play LT, move Dawkins to RT, draft Billy Price to play G in the second round. Offensive line: fixed.

We got 40 million in cap space, we can move to #2 and draft the best QB in the class and still have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 2 5ths on top of that.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...McBeane still must prove himself to be better than Buddy Nix or the "re-tired" Marv as a viable GM IMO.....

[Tyrod's friend]

1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

2016		26	$3,000,000	$3,200,000	-	$6,200,000	$36,000,000	$19,000,000($19,000,000)
Pre-6/1 Release2016 Dead Cap: $36,000,0002016 Cap Savings: $-29,800,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2016 Dead Cap: $16,000,0002016 Cap Savings: $-9,800,000 Post-6/1 Release2016 Dead Cap: $23,200,0002017 Dead Cap: $12,800,0002016 Cap Savings: $-17,000,000 Post-6/1 Trade2016 Dead Cap: $3,200,0002017 Dead Cap: $12,800,0002016 Cap Savings: $3,000,000
2017		27	$9,000,000	$3,200,000	$2,000,000	$14,200,000	$25,300,000	$11,000,000($30,000,000)
Pre-6/1 Release2017 Dead Cap: $25,300,0002017 Cap Savings: $-11,100,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2017 Dead Cap: $14,800,0002017 Cap Savings: $-600,000 Post-6/1 Release2017 Dead Cap: $15,700,0002018 Dead Cap: $9,600,0002017 Cap Savings: $-1,500,000 Post-6/1 Trade2017 Dead Cap: $5,200,0002018 Dead Cap: $9,600,0002017 Cap Savings: $9,000,000
2018		28	$9,250,000	-	$2,000,000	$11,250,000	$1,500,000	$11,250,000($41,250,000)

WE made room guys.. but for what? Was this a move to move up in draft? or was this to open up cap space for something else big?

 

This is a win win

Nate Solder.

[dave mcbride]

24 minutes ago, Big C said:

 

Jason Peters? 

 

Still, your point is valid. Glenn was a stud, but I'm also not counting out Dawkins as a future stud.

Oops! Peters, definitely. He's a HOF player. 

[RochesterRob]

2 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

 

I think if he doesn't want to come here he will have told them that at the combine.

 

And I don't hold it against him to want to avoid Cleveland.

  Even if they said something Rosen probably would have great doubt as to whether the Bills were even capable of moving into a position to get him.  Kind of like winning Powerball.  You don't need to tell friends, neighbors, relatives, etc. to get lost over money until it actually happens.  That aside I am sure many players have had "meh" attitudes as to places they did not want to play in but never gave serious thought about.  Many guys probably think that GB has little to offer in terms of night life versus thinking about a town that has several championships  when the Packers get mentioned.

[HappyDays]

16 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

We still have #22 for Lamar Jackson.

 

It is still conceivable that we use 12 on a player like Roquon Smith and take our QB at 22. A trade up for a QB is probably more likely but I wouldn't make any assumptions yet.

[sven233]

I'm loving all of these trades and I do believe on some level that we are not done climbing the board.  The only way they could completely sour me on everything at this point is if they trade up again to a top pick, do all this work, and them draft Josh Allen.  The air would completely come out of the balloon at that point.

 

To me, ever since they made the trade down last year, this past season and this draft is about 1 thing......doing WHATEVER IT TAKES for Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield.  We're halfway there now.  Time for the Bills to finish the job and get one of those guys.

[Captain Murica]

3 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

2016		26	$3,000,000	$3,200,000	-	$6,200,000	$36,000,000	$19,000,000($19,000,000)
Pre-6/1 Release2016 Dead Cap: $36,000,0002016 Cap Savings: $-29,800,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2016 Dead Cap: $16,000,0002016 Cap Savings: $-9,800,000 Post-6/1 Release2016 Dead Cap: $23,200,0002017 Dead Cap: $12,800,0002016 Cap Savings: $-17,000,000 Post-6/1 Trade2016 Dead Cap: $3,200,0002017 Dead Cap: $12,800,0002016 Cap Savings: $3,000,000
2017		27	$9,000,000	$3,200,000	$2,000,000	$14,200,000	$25,300,000	$11,000,000($30,000,000)
Pre-6/1 Release2017 Dead Cap: $25,300,0002017 Cap Savings: $-11,100,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2017 Dead Cap: $14,800,0002017 Cap Savings: $-600,000 Post-6/1 Release2017 Dead Cap: $15,700,0002018 Dead Cap: $9,600,0002017 Cap Savings: $-1,500,000 Post-6/1 Trade2017 Dead Cap: $5,200,0002018 Dead Cap: $9,600,0002017 Cap Savings: $9,000,000
2018		28	$9,250,000	-	$2,000,000	$11,250,000	$1,500,000	$11,250,000($41,250,000)

WE made room guys.. but for what? Was this a move to move up in draft? or was this to open up cap space for something else big?

 

This is a win win

 

 

Brees or Bust.  

[QuoteTheRaven83]

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

Wow I'm so happy about this trade that I'd french kiss Beane right now!

 

I’m sure he’d thank you not to try that.   

[cba fan]

40 minutes ago, gobilz said:

Mini  boner 

That is all we can ask for......lol

[WMDman]

Just now, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

when the rams traded up everyone knew it was goff

[PrimeTime101]

we can easy trade with Giants with our 2 first rounders now

 

[Juice_32]

Just now, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

 

I am leaning this way too. My gut tells me Darnold is the prize. There are just too many Rosen links for me to buy it.

[BuffaninATL]

25 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

This puts Buffalo in the drivers seat.  They now have the cap space to make a run at any FA Qb.  If Cousins signs with Buffalo, they could draft the best LB at 12 and a top DT at 22.  On the other hand they could plug all the holes on the roster in FA during the draft get the top QB they covet and still  have 4 or 5  picks in the top 3 rounds.  Beane is looking like a stud.  

 

The Bills are not signing Cousins - can't spell it out any more simply. He will cost a king's ransom.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

A while back the word was Darnold. Now it's Rosen. I still think it's Darnold. Darnold is the type of rare talent you take #1. 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

 

Without Rex and the clown show, we’ll have to wait and find out!

 

 

YAY! 

[Shaw66]

4 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Shaw66, wow that's a different take, never occurred to me.  

 

My take is they are moving up the board in 2 steps to get their QB ala the eagles in 2016 when they snagged Wentz.  My take on FA QB is a McCown, Moore, Henne signing to be the sage to the youngster.  Rosen or Mayfield are likely to play early on in 2018.

I agree with you.  I was just spitballing.   

 

I don't think you make this move unless there's someone you really want, and if there's someone you really want you can't sit at 12 and hope he's falling to you.   I think the Bills will be moving again, but the next move might not be until sometime within 48 hours of the draft.   

 

Beane is fearless.   And I assume McDermott is on board with him.   It's amazing to watch. 

[Turk71]

25 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

Jason Peters I thinnk for a year.

 

Glenn was great for us. We got him with a 2nd, overall paid him way less then he was wroth (rookie contract) and then got a great deal trading him away.

Got him with a 41 pick, had him through a rookie contract plus a couple years trade him for a 51 pick when his health is becoming a ? and his cap hit would be 13 million next year. That is pretty good value. Getting good production from guys on rookie contracts is key to managing the cap and stud linemen can contribute right away usually. Draft a tackle in first two rounds and get younger.

[HappyDays]

19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't think you trade up if you're going to sign Cousins. If you're getting Cousins, you want to add a lot of talent, not one guy at pick number 12.

 

Not necessarily. Supposedly we've been trying to trade Glenn for a year now. If we had traded a pick to move up that would signify we are trying to trade up for a QB, but it might just be they got a good offer for Glenn and couldn't turn it down regardless of what their plans were.

[KRT88]

This is NOT the same old Bills!

 

forward thinking!

 

12, 22, 56, 65, 2019 2nd for #2 pick! 

[PrimeTime101]

we can easy move up with giants now

 

[QuoteTheRaven83]

1 minute ago, WMDman said:

when the rams traded up everyone knew it was goff

 

I didn't know Beane was their GM. 

 

Some GM's are more transparent than others. Beane is NOT transparent.

[PrimeTime101]

Just now, KRT88 said:

This is NOT the same old Bills!

 

forward thinking!

 

12, 22, 56, 65, 2019 2nd for #2 pick! 

your crazy you don't need to give that much.

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Agree with everything you said...

 

Interesting note now:  Bills could stay at 12 and just draft whatever of the big 5 drop to them.  ONE or more will be at 12.  Although I feel like this move is to make trading into the top 10 more realistic, I wouldnt rule out staying put at 12 either depending how the draft falls.

 

For example:  If Cleveland really prefers Allen, they go Barkley #1 its the intent of taking Allen at 4.  Or if a new wildcard comes into play and Cleveland really surprises now that they have Tyrod and looks to move down more and take LAMAR which would make more sense of the Tyrod trade...path really opens for Baker to fall to us at 12 potentially.

 

Then even if a trade happens at 2 or 3...its more likely someone like Broncos or Jets leaping up to get their guy.  And they already pick 5 and 6, so doesn't really shake anything up ahead of our pick because its NOT a team behind us moving in front of us. 

 

So lets say Broncos and Jets take Rosen and Darnold in some capacity between 2 and 6.  That leaves both Baker and Lamar there with no real threat ahead of us to take either outside the rumored Dolphin interest.  Well, now we can just let one fall to us, or do a much cheaper move to get ahead of the Dolphins at like 9 or 10 and get Baker for instance.  

 

So many possibilities...going to be an exciting draft.   Personally, I think Beane is still going to make another trade, but man so many things can change how this all plays out still.  VERY EXCITING time to be a Bills fan

 

Beane isn't taking somebody else's leftovers. He knows who he wants, and will do whatever he needs to to get him. We just have to hope he's right.

[Lurker]

Just now, KRT88 said:

This is NOT the same old Bills!

 

forward thinking!

 

12, 22, 56, 65, 2019 2nd for #2 pick! 

 

Glad you're not the GM.    No one in this QB class is worth that kind of haul...

[Klaista2k]

5 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

I hope so because I like Darnold slightly more than Rosen.

 

Won't the Browns most likely take Darnold 1st overall though? 

Edited March 12, 2018 by Klaista2k

[Kelly the Dog]

I think we know before the draft if we are trading up to go after Rosen or Darnold by who we sign in FA as the veteran. If it's a Matt Moore or McCarron we are trading up. If it's one of the top guys, Keenum or Bridgewater (not that I want them or predict it) then we likely stay at 12 and go after Mayfield, Allen or Jackson. If you are getting Rosen or Darnold there is no need to spend any capital on a vet FA. You get one but as a backup not bridge. 

[stevewin]

10 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Giants will not make that trade - they will demand that Bills give them Billy Buffalo so their mascot can trample on him during half time every game.

Throw in the train horn operator and it becomes the best trade in NFL history 

[WMDman]

Just now, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

I didn't know Beane was their GM. 

 

Some GM's are more transparent than others. Beane is NOT transparent.

a few weeks ago we were apparently in love with Darnold. who knows who were gonna take, I was just saying that sometimes why and who for certain teams move up for are obvious to insiders

[QuoteTheRaven83]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Without Rex and the clown show, we’ll have to wait and find out!

 

 

YAY! 

 

Also just a thought, I would think Beane would want a tougher and less fragile QB like Darnold. But like you said, we'll have to wait and see.

[Tyrod's friend]

5 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

Is it weird that everybody in the media thinks/knows the Bills are infatuated with Rosen? Beane doesnt seem like the type that would show all his cards like that. I don't think Rosen's the play at all. I think it's Darnold.

 

Just a hunch.

Rudolph or Mayfield. 

Never forget that this team is committed to seniors. Last year they actually moved around until they could get the seniors they wanted. It's not Rosen, it's not Darnold. 

 

[QCity]

We drafted Glenn in the 2nd round when he was healthy and signed him to a cheap rookie deal. We just got the equivalent of a 2nd round pick back for him, except now he has an 8-figure cap hit and he's only played 16 games over the last 3 seasons.

[bmur66]

Cordy Glen has been a rock since day one. Name a better Bills LT. This is the only way I am happy to see him go because he is getting us a QB. Good luck Cordy.

[RochesterRob]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It is still conceivable that we use 12 on a player like Roquon Smith and take our QB at 22. A trade up for a QB is probably more likely but I wouldn't make any assumptions yet.

  Can you imagine the meltdown here if 12 is used on Smith?

[Real McClappy]

Everyone is so sure we are trading up  It is plausible but watch Beaner go balls out and we sign Cousins now. The cap room is 100% there for a reason now and just about doubles next year.

 

With the draft stock we have and Cousins we could be scary good.

Edited March 12, 2018 by Real McCoy

[aceman_16]

Moving onnnnn uuuuup... .. movin' on up. (to the east side)...

 

 

Sing it with me!

[BadLandsMeanie]

By the draft value chart our 2 firsts alone can get us to Cleveland's 4th round slot.

 

This is an attractive possibility to Cleveland because IF they pick 2 high firsts and 2 high 2nds this year and hit on all of them, they won't be able to renew them all. It will be too expensive 4 or so years down the road. So Cleveland probably wants a high pick for next year instead of yet another fist this year.

 

So think our 12 ad next years first and some other value, like maybe their 3rd back.

 

at 2 the Giants have a QB ad may pass on one this year.

 

at 3 the colts have a QB and it would be odd if they took one.

 

So at 2,3,and 4 overall there are likely trade partners and we can reach any of them.

 

We are in good shape here.

 

 

 

[mannc]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It is still conceivable that we use 12 on a player like Roquon Smith and take our QB at 22. A trade up for a QB is probably more likely but I wouldn't make any assumptions yet.

No.  I have to believe this trade is made with yet another move in mind.  Otherwise, why do it now?  No one really has any idea now who will be on the board at 12, so it can’t be for a particular player.

[gr8billsfan]

Great trade! We get the 12th and swap a 5th and 6th pick with the Bengals!! I think we trade the 12th, a second and a third for a #3-4 pick. Especially if the Colts stick to Luck. Beane is making good moves. Cordy didn’t wanna play for us. Screw him.