26CornerBlitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Good discussion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) really not sure what Brooks is seeing. We need a QB that can at least keep defenses honest, meaning, is some sort of threat in the passing game Keenum, Bradford, not an upgrade in that department over Tyrod? I disagree. Edited March 12, 2018 by bigduke6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Bradford and Rosen is pretty much my ideal depending on what $$s Bradford id looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He would be my choice , and yes I get his knee is not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Juice_32 said: I'd rather have Teddy B. Bradford is probably the FA I'd be the least excited about. I get what you are saying that Teddy has a better future, but if the Bills are going to draft a QB high, then I would think an aging Vet on a 2 year deal makes more sense. No real controversy to worry about. 20 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good discussion here. I am going to assume Brooks is a Tyrod believer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: i expect the bills braintrust are seeing that 'leaks' get out about every single potential FA and college QB. it's white noise And they're doing it splendidly well I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Would be a nice backup to Rosen Awesome both QB's are one hit away from ( moving to politics ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'm ok with this. Bills need a bridge or did backup for whatever QB they take in the draft (provided they do), and Bradford is a capable starter in the event that the Bills aren't able to draft a good/decent QB prospect. His arm is certainly good enough to play in Buffalo. Availability is obviously the only real concern with him. Could a Glennon in Chicago type signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I get what you are saying that Teddy has a better future, but if the Bills are going to draft a QB high, then I would think an aging Vet on a 2 year deal makes more sense. No real controversy to worry about. I am going to assume Brooks is a Tyrod believer? all that means is Bucky hasn't watched him play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I get what you are saying that Teddy has a better future, but if the Bills are going to draft a QB high, then I would think an aging Vet on a 2 year deal makes more sense. No real controversy to worry about. I am going to assume Brooks is a Tyrod believer? I think he's taking into account that Bradford has serious durability issues and Keenum had never done anything until he arrived in MIN in a great situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) If they get Bradford instead of Foles, I'm guessing they hold their draft picks and pick Rudolph, Falk or Lauletta in the third. They sit and learn for a year or two behind Bradford, or if he goes down they get thrust in earlier. They're going to need to draft a couple of guards or G/C hig and use two of picks in 1/2 to get those settled. Move Glenn to right side and line is solid to protect these QB's. Edited March 12, 2018 by VABills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, VABills said: If they get Bradford instead of Foles, I'm guessing they hold their draft picks and pick Rudolph, Falk or Lauletta in the third. They sit and learn for a year or two behind Bradford, or if he goes down they get thrust in earlier. Why do you come to that conclusion? I don't think any team in the league is trusting Bradford as being their starter for any real period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'd still rather have McCown https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/12/richard-sherman-san-francisco-49ers-john-lynch-mmqb-peter-king Josh McCown has proven on three bad teams (2015 Cleveland, 2016 Cleveland, the 2017 Jets) that he: A) can play, and B) should be some team’s strong option as either a top backup or a good bridge quarterback to a bright-prospect rookie. McCown’s a selfless guy who will support whatever decision the coach makes—ask any coach he’s played for—and will tutor the young guy well. And here’s how he ranks versus some NFL quarterbacks with at least 20 starts over the past three seasons, collectively. (Some quarterbacks here have not played in every one of the last three years, but I’m picking and choosing quarterbacks who have started at least 20 games since opening day 2015 just as a means of comparison with McCown.) QB (Age) Teams W-L Comp. Pct. TD/INT Diff. Rating J. McCown (38) CLE, NYJ 6-18 .636 +17 89.8 C. Keenum (30) LAR, MIN 18-10 .643 +16 89.3 A. Luck (28) IND 10-12 .606 +21 88.9 C. Wentz (25) PHI 18-11 .615 +28 88.8 M. Mariota (24) TEN 20-22 .618 +24 88.6 J. Winston (24) TB 18-27 .608 +25 87.2 E. Manning (37) NYG 20-27 .625 +37 86.8 C. Newton (28) CAR 32-14 .573 +36 85.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: I get what you are saying that Teddy has a better future, but if the Bills are going to draft a QB high, then I would think an aging Vet on a 2 year deal makes more sense. No real controversy to worry about. I get that. It all depends on how the Bills handle the situation and I have faith in this FO. The thing I like about Teddy is he could provide an opportunity to add a decent pick down the line because of his age, Bradford definitely does not. Bridgewater would be a decent bridge/insurance policy short term and potentially have some trade value long term (if of course you get him cheap, which I think is possible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookylookyherecomescookie Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Bradford and Rosen is pretty much my ideal depending on what $$s Bradford id looking for. No, it'll be Rosen, Nate, and a camp arm. Mcbean thinks strategically and long term, not particularly concerned about this year's results. Bradford, Keenum, et al will not be contributing to our eventual take-off in 2-3 years. Rosen's not the type to need or take to a mentor. If he's going to succeed or fail, he'll do either his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Why do you come to that conclusion? I don't think any team in the league is trusting Bradford as being their starter for any real period of time. Because Bradford is a quality starting QB. If he signs somewhere it's to start. Even with a bad knee, he is a top 10 QB in the league when playing. They get some insurance with a quality QB in 3rd round who can learn. But, they need to keep the pick to put a Oline in front of bradford, and shore up the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I don't want Bradford. But mostly what I want from the QB free agency market is a deal where we won't hurt ourselves with the cap in future years if we have to cut them after 1 season. These are all mediocre QB's. The biggest mistake would be to sign any of them long-term without the ability to get out of their contracts cleanly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Juice_32 said: I'd rather have Teddy B. Bradford is probably the FA I'd be the least excited about. Heck bring them both in so their teammates in camp can place bets on which one has a leg fall off before week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 This week will show some of the hand the Bills are planning to play. McCarron or Foles and they are not trading up. A pure one year bridge and they are trading up and the deal is likely already done... Personally if its a one-year bridge, I want a bridge who can keep the Bills competitive for the time that he has under center. Keep the Bills in the playoff hunt. McCown, Bradford fit that in my mind without having to invest more than a year. Of the two McCown would be my choice based on durability, leadership skills and the ability to be a mentor. I would even suggest committing to two years on a contract. The key is these two cost us nothing. We need to save all the draft capital to get into the top 3 and get Darnold or Rosen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 As long as its for $15M per season or less then I'm good with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Brooks is a terrible evaluator. His mocks are ridiculous and his takes are often not accompanied by actual analysis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: As long as its for $15M per season or less then I'm good with it $15m for Bradford??? That would be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Heck bring them both in so their teammates in camp can place bets on which one has a leg fall off before week 1. My money would be on Bradford. If Bridgewater's leg was going to fall off, it already would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookylookyherecomescookie Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: This week will show some of the hand the Bills are planning to play. McCarron or Foles and they are not trading up. A pure one year bridge and they are trading up and the deal is likely already done... Personally if its a one-year bridge, I want a bridge who can keep the Bills competitive for the time that he has under center. Keep the Bills in the playoff hunt. McCown, Bradford fit that in my mind without having to invest more than a year. Of the two McCown would be my choice based on durability, leadership skills and the ability to be a mentor. I would even suggest committing to two years on a contract. The key is these two cost us nothing. We need to save all the draft capital to get into the top 3 and get Darnold or Rosen... They're not going to sign a bridge, they had one and just traded him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: They're not going to sign a bridge, they had one and just traded him! They got great value for that bridge. They may have gotten Tim Settle or DJ Chark or some other talent that falls or the deal closer on a move into the top 5. Bridges are interchangeable and in my opinion, they need one. None of these rooks should be thrown out there day one. Starting Peterman for the first 5-8 games is admitting that 2018 is not a playoff year and McD won't do that. Edited March 12, 2018 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I would actually be ok with Bradford starting for a year, with the expectation that he would be gone the next year and if he gets injured our rookie steps up. I think the biggest problem is that he really doesn't want to be a backup. He really resented Wentz being drafted, and sources said that he wanted to be a starter, and that he felt like he was a starter. If it is obvious that he is just going to be benched the moment a rookie is ready, I doubt that he bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 kolb didn't make it out of the bathroom, how far would bradford make it? pass 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, VABills said: Because Bradford is a quality starting QB. If he signs somewhere it's to start. Even with a bad knee, he is a top 10 QB in the league when playing. They get some insurance with a quality QB in 3rd round who can learn. But, they need to keep the pick to put a Oline in front of bradford, and shore up the defense. Brady Rodgers Big Ben Wilson Cam Brees Rivers Luck Wentz Stafford Ryan Say he's top 10 takes 2 of those guys out. Not to mention Dak / Jameis / Mariota / Jimmy G. / Watson / Goff / Cousins / Alex Smith Look, I like Bradford, I'd be happy with him as our bridge, but nothing about his history suggests eliminating an aggressive move up the board for another QB. 16 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I would actually be ok with Bradford starting for a year, with the expectation that he would be gone the next year and if he gets injured our rookie steps up. I think the biggest problem is that he really doesn't want to be a backup. He really resented Wentz being drafted, and sources said that he wanted to be a starter, and that he felt like he was a starter. If it is obvious that he is just going to be benched the moment a rookie is ready, I doubt that he bites. FA is before the draft. Is he going to sit out if we draft a QB? Edited March 12, 2018 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: $15m for Bradford??? That would be a nightmare. Do you realize what QBs are paid nowadays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: $15m for Bradford??? That would be a nightmare. That's middle to low for a starting QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathja Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If they are going to draft a quarterback and sign another Bridge quarterback who will likely start next season, they should focus on a guy who has a chance to have a big season. Someone who might be a little bit younger and not so injury-prone, so they can flip him for a pick when the rookie quarterback is ready to go. Obviously, this is the path the Eagles took when Carson Wentz was ready to take over and they got a first-rounder for Sam Bradford. Personally, I'm hoping they move into the top five and draft a quarterback who can start from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Bradford would be a good QB for teaching a Rookie , Allen or Jackson, with Peterman at QB to start the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: They're not going to sign a bridge, they had one and just traded him! that was a bridge to nowhere Edited March 12, 2018 by baskingridgebillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Could we give him a contract from now through October when he'll likely be on IR again ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Wily Dog said: Bradford would be a good QB for teaching a Rookie , Allen or Jackson, with Peterman at QB to start the season. What? You'd sign Bradford then start Peterman over him? Lots of dumb things are said here but this may take the cake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Kevin Kolb all over again, he'll end up on IR within 6 games. Did they get rid of those dang mats at training camp? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: My money would be on Bradford. If Bridgewater's leg was going to fall off, it already would have. Why? He hasn't played a game yet since the injury I think Bridgewater's knee is toast 6 minutes ago, Wily Dog said: Bradford would be a good QB for teaching a Rookie , Allen or Jackson, with Peterman at QB to start the season. Wat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Wily Dog said: Bradford would be a good QB for teaching a Rookie , Allen or Jackson, with Peterman at QB to start the season. Peterman starting over Bradford? Laughable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: FA is before the draft. Is he going to sit out if we draft a QB? I am reasonably certain that if it is something important to him, he would ask before he signs. Of course, we could lie to him and then draft a guy, but that tend to sour you to a lot of agents and it's not a great long term move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: $15m for Bradford??? That would be a nightmare. I hear you , that would be $5 mil a game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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