26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Can't agree with this with the NYJ in the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I have to agree with you on this. Read this article. The Jets may be freaking INSANE! https://nypost.com/2018/02/19/60m-in-1st-year-jets-set-to-creatively-pounce-on-kirk-cousins/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Andrew Brandt is wrong. From the stories I am hearing the Jets, Broncos and Cardinals all have Cousins as plan A. They will all be in the market. I believe that the Bills and Cleveland would prefer to draft a guy. The other FA QBs will all fall in once Cousins choice becomes clear. $30m a year is coming Kirk's way. Now let me ask you..... YOU LIKE THAT?? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Another Cousins thread!! (is that wrong?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: I have to agree with you on this. Read this article. The Jets may be freaking INSANE! https://nypost.com/2018/02/19/60m-in-1st-year-jets-set-to-creatively-pounce-on-kirk-cousins/ $60M in 1st year? Jets set to creatively pounce on Kirk Cousins Good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemarty Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Another Cousins thread!! (is that wrong?) They're all related... I'll get my coat... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Cousins says he wants to win and money is secondary. If that is the case I kinda doubt the Jets will sign him as they tear apart their team to do so! Captain Kirk is a very bright guy and he knows who won last season and who didn't. He also knows which team has a winning staff and roster will factor into where he goes. Minnesota and Jacksonville would be firsts. Buffalo would be next in my eyes if they don't spend all those early picks to move up in the draft. Arizona is third and Cleveland, the NY Jets, Denver are last! I highly doubt he goes to any of those teams unless he gets no other solid offers from the others. If Buffalo wants him I think they have a solid chance without needing to empty the vault. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Can't agree with this with the NYJ in the running. Agreed. I read that and thought J-E-T-S Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Another Cousins thread!! (is that wrong?) I’m so sick of hearing about him. You would think he’s actually done something. I can’t wait until he finally officially signs with Denver so he can go away. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I have a feeling he goes to Denver and has a solid but not HOF worthy career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Cousins says he wants to win and money is secondary. If that is the case I kinda doubt the Jets will sign him as they tear apart their team to do so! Captain Kirk is a very bright guy and he knows who won last season and who didn't. He also knows which team has a winning staff and roster will factor into where he goes. Minnesota and Jacksonville would be firsts. Buffalo would be next in my eyes if they don't spend all those early picks to move up in the draft. Arizona is third and Cleveland, the NY Jets, Denver are last! I highly doubt he goes to any of those teams unless he gets no other solid offers from the others. If Buffalo wants him I think they have a solid chance without needing to empty the vault. JMHO Jax picked up Bortles $19M option, I don't think they're playing. Not sure why Denver is last? They still have a good D - #3 on yards #22 on points. When there's that big a difference you look at what's up, and what's up is that they were #31 in the league on offensive turnovers. I'm Cousins, I have some questions about their plans, but I put them ahead of the Jets and Cleveland. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 jets have a nice little defense being set up. o line is weak but with a couple high picks they can get some talent around kirk. i'd be worried if they signed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, ALF said: $60M in 1st year? Jets set to creatively pounce on Kirk Cousins Good grief ....strange how the "franchise QB" is highly coveted here and elsewhere......seem to be far and few between, yet Cousins' jersey apparently says "FRANCHISE QB" on the back.....sure it is Boy Danny Snyder and his gang, but Bruce Allen was a pretty well respected guy in TB (his old man was George, not too bad of a football guy)....so why if the Deadskins have this rare specimen are they so willing to part with it?........sure isn't the money....Snyder throws money and picks around like a drunken sailor....sure doesn't make a helluva lot of sense to me........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 This is click bait. Cousins is going to get P A I D and everyone knows it. The only debate is if he is worth what he is going to get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m so sick of hearing about him. You would think he’s actually done something. I can’t wait until he finally officially signs with Denver so he can go away. From a financial standpoint he has marvelously worked within the system. When the Redskins didn't get a deal done when they could have the qb and his agent made a decision that there would be no compromising on what they believed his market value not only was but could be. Being tagged for two consecutive years not only put big money in his pocket in the present time but it bought him time as the market was skyrocketing up. Cousins basically placed a bet on himself. He is now close to winning the jackpot. It's not so much that he is going to the market as it is the market is going to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, aristocrat said: jets have a nice little defense being set up. o line is weak but with a couple high picks they can get some talent around kirk. i'd be worried if they signed him The Jets need help at RB, as have an aging Matt Forte, no great WRs, their best TE is set to be an UFA. There was a reason many felt they had the league's worst roster last season. As eluded the only benefit the Jets have is a ton of cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: The Jets need help at RB, as have an aging Matt Forte, no great WRs, their best TE is set to be an UFA. There was a reason many felt they had the league's worst roster last season. As eluded the only benefit the Jets have is a ton of cap room. sure. like i said they have some holes but they also could trade out and pick up extra picks. they still have a lot of cap room even with signing him. it's a lot of work but if they get kirk thats a big start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Jax picked up Bortles $19M option, I don't think they're playing. Not sure why Denver is last? They still have a good D - #3 on yards #22 on points. When there's that big a difference you look at what's up, and what's up is that they were #31 in the league on offensive turnovers. I'm Cousins, I have some questions about their plans, but I put them ahead of the Jets and Cleveland. My take is Denver went 5-11 last in the division last year with a first-year defensive minded HC who was almost fired at the end of the season. Elway realized he had given him bad QB's to work with so I think he is giving him another year to see what happens with an upgrade at QB. Like Cleveland and the Jets, I feel Denver is more than a QB away from taking the AFC West as they face an improved Charger team 9-7, the Chiefs and the Raiders who just hired Gruden. Denver HC fired his OC Mike McCoy during the season (week 10)and replaced him with their QB coach in Bill Musgrave who is not an upgrade in my view. Denver has a decent receiver corps and but their offensive line is bad and their vaunted defense was 22nd in points allowed last year. (#3 in yards). I feel a quality QB like Cousins will want to know what he is stepping into when he goes to a team and Denver just has so much uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Jets fans will burn down MetLife stadium if Bowles survives another year without making playoffs. Not an ideal situation for a guy who supposedly has a lot of options. I'd take Cousins if he signs for something in Garropolo's ballpark. $28m per year. You're not getting a decent starter on free agency market under $20m per year. Cost to move up in draft will be prohibitive. I'll take above average QB play from Cousins plus all my draft picks over gambling as much as three 1st round picks on potential greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 If the Jets did $60 million in year one - does that screw over the rest of the league in regards to the franchise tag for a QB next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Jets fans will burn down MetLife stadium if Bowles survives another year without making playoffs. Not an ideal situation for a guy who supposedly has a lot of options. I'd take Cousins if he signs for something in Garropolo's ballpark. $28m per year. You're not getting a decent starter on free agency market under $20m per year. Cost to move up in draft will be prohibitive. I'll take above average QB play from Cousins plus all my draft picks over gambling as much as three 1st round picks on potential greatness. What? Bowles had that team playing hard last season. The fans only complaint about coaching should have been about him ruining the tank that they had set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Cousins is going to get a huge deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, DasNootz said: If the Jets did $60 million in year one - does that screw over the rest of the league in regards to the franchise tag for a QB next season? 60 mill would bump the franchise tag up approximately 8 mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m so sick of hearing about him. You would think he’s actually done something. I can’t wait until he finally officially signs with Denver so he can go away. He beat out RG3 and lost out to Alex Smith - That’s his resume headline and the floor and ceiling of his abilities respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Nice breakdown by Farrar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Commonsense said: What? Bowles had that team playing hard last season. The fans only complaint about coaching should have been about him ruining the tank that they had set up. You think he's gonna get more than 4 years of no playoffs in New York? Bowles is coming off back-to-back 5-11 seasons following choking away a playoff bid to Rex's Bills. He's gone if they don't make playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, Commonsense said: This is click bait. Cousins is going to get P A I D and everyone knows it. The only debate is if he is worth what he is going to get. It's not like Minnesota would offer him $5 million a year for a shot at winning while the Jets offer up $30 million a year to be...well a Jet. He will get paid huge by whomever lands him. I do believe if a team can offer a better shot to win he might take slightly less...but any way you slice it he's getting a ridiculous contract from someone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Cousins has very solid numbers and will be a top 10 quarterback for years to come. I hate to say it but the $60 million first year deal actually sounds pretty wise. Get a hug chunk of the deal out of the way so the Jets could build around him by signing their own FA as they need too. Cousins could be a really good fit for the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Ralph Wilson just rolled over in his grave.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 55 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: You think he's gonna get more than 4 years of no playoffs in New York? Bowles is coming off back-to-back 5-11 seasons following choking away a playoff bid to Rex's Bills. He's gone if they don't make playoffs. If they get Cousins maybe, if they draft a rookie I think he is safe for another year. The Jets roster was supposed to be one of the worst ever assembled and they competed week in and week out. They came a heck of a lot closer to beating the Pats than the Bills did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: If they get Cousins maybe, if they draft a rookie I think he is safe for another year. The Jets roster was supposed to be one of the worst ever assembled and they competed week in and week out. They came a heck of a lot closer to beating the Pats than the Bills did. Agree. If they go rookie then anything around 5 wins again and Bowles is safe. If he gets a rookie and wins 1 to 3 games only then he is in trouble. If he gets Cousins he needs to be .500 or better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Andrew Brandt is just going "against the grain" to get clicks on his article. Is he going to issue a retraction or write a piece admitting he was wrong when Kirk Cousins becomes one of highest (if not the highest) paid player in NFL history? There are absolutely no signs or indications that Cousins won't get offered a huge deal. Journalism is truly dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Make this down. Cousins is going to New England. He'll become the highest paid back up in the NFL and will start in 2019 when Brady retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I have a feeling he goes to Denver and has a solid but not HOF worthy career. There have been many above average QB's who are not "HoF worthy". Doesn't mean you kick him to the curb and continue to play QB roulette. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 This concept isn't that far fetched. I posted similar a while ago. Cheaper options (Keenum, possibly Foles) may be available and every team that has a high pick and needs a QB will likely draft their next starter. That leaves a shriveled market for Cousins. If Denver is his only real option (unless the Jets lose their minds), then all of Cousins's leverage is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 He’s about to get paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....strange how the "franchise QB" is highly coveted here and elsewhere......seem to be far and few between, yet Cousins' jersey apparently says "FRANCHISE QB" on the back.....sure it is Boy Danny Snyder and his gang, but Bruce Allen was a pretty well respected guy in TB (his old man was George, not too bad of a football guy)....so why if the Deadskins have this rare specimen are they so willing to part with it?........sure isn't the money....Snyder throws money and picks around like a drunken sailor....sure doesn't make a helluva lot of sense to me........ Cousins isn't happy with the skins. They lowballed the crap out of him last year, and when he rejected, they threw the franchise on him, against his wishes, then slammed him publicly. That punched his ticket out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 we want him to go to Denver so that they could be a potential trade partner for us at pick 5, which is 1 ahead of the Jests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzReaper Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 He's the top man on the totem pole of UFA QBs... The man is going to get paid and paid alot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Nihilarian said: My take is Denver went 5-11 last in the division last year with a first-year defensive minded HC who was almost fired at the end of the season. Elway realized he had given him bad QB's to work with so I think he is giving him another year to see what happens with an upgrade at QB. Like Cleveland and the Jets, I feel Denver is more than a QB away from taking the AFC West as they face an improved Charger team 9-7, the Chiefs and the Raiders who just hired Gruden. Denver HC fired his OC Mike McCoy during the season (week 10)and replaced him with their QB coach in Bill Musgrave who is not an upgrade in my view. Denver has a decent receiver corps and but their offensive line is bad and their vaunted defense was 22nd in points allowed last year. (#3 in yards). I feel a quality QB like Cousins will want to know what he is stepping into when he goes to a team and Denver just has so much uncertainty. The heart of Denver's WR corps is talented, but old. And their OL is bad. You're durn straight I'm Cousins, I want to know the plan there. I don't know enough about Musgrave - but I think you could argue at least the O didn't get worse after McCoy got the boot. Word I heard was that he was doing the Roman thing, prepping and insisting on practicing 30+ plays every week, then only running 1/3 of them in a game, and Musgrave had orders to simplify. I can't argue with your take on the Jets being uncertain, I just feel Denver has a better D. You put your finger on it in what you say - whenever a team is stout at giving up yards and 1st downs, but bad at giving up points, ask why. In the case of Denver, I believe it was points off turnovers. If I'm Cousins, my first choice is the Vikes if they're interested, but I would certainly give Denver a careful listen and if I like their sales pitch, I'd put them over the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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