Rumor: Shady on the Trade Block

[downunderbill]

25 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

bills get 2017 2nd rd. pick? can someone please explain this?

 

that would suck, that pick was last year. such a billsy thing to.

[Captain Murica]

1 hour ago, Ittakestime said:

 

Just his social media. All about the 10k chase. Don't think he said anything about playoffs until we actually got in. 

I see where you’re coming from with that situation. But, there was an article written several months ago about Sammy’s time here. They interviewed him and he said when he came out to the media and stated he needed more targets. The next offensive meeting they had Shady handed him a Manila envelope with shooting targets in it, and told him “we heard you needed more targets.” 

 

I think he is team first, but also isn’t shy about promoting his brand. 

[KDIGGZ]

This website is obviously bogus but I heard the Bills really are asking for a 1st or 2nd for McCoy and a 3rd for Glenn. They almost had a deal worked out last year for Glenn but it was nixed by McD . They are asking a lot for Tyrod based on his low salary but I doubt they get it. They are also shopping Lawson but I didn't hear how much they are asking. At least Beane is doing his due diligence and being proactive even if he doesn't find any takers. At least teams will know the Bills are open for business.

 

Hopefully somehow this can result in a top 5 pick in the draft where we can get one of the top 3 QB's. This is the year to make some moves.

[Mark Vader]

File this thread along with the Andrew Luck "Speculation".

[gobills1212]

4 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

It's not exactly written in English either.

 

 

I had no issues reading it.... fwiw

Even still,  I'd hardly take some missed punctuation as a sign that a trade is inimant..

2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

so this is just some bogus spam article because it includes a 2017 pick.....right? could someone explain the validity or lack thereof of this?

Correctamundo! 

At this point it's yesterday's news, which, ironically was dated today when it was featured and laughed at in its very own thread yesterday!

 

Not you, but some of these threads and topics...

What's in the water around here lately? Season just ended and the new one already can't start soon enough! Smh

[PrimeTime101]

Look... At 30 years old this is the time to trade him. I think he is still worth a late third round

and this is the year we are rebuilding the team around who ever our QB is going to be.

 

6 Picks in 3 rounds would Address  OL, DT, True ILB, CB, C and then get running back in 4th round/FA and get QB in FA. same with WR.

 

I would have no problem letting him go. I Thank him for what he did here since he has been here but this is the NFL.. Not For Long.

[Rico]

4 hours ago, Steptide said:

Nobody thought we'd trade Watkins. We did. I 100% can see beane trading Mccoy, as much as I don't want that to happen. 

Big difference though. Shady is beloved by the entire fanbase, while Sammy was not. I don't know if Pegs would sign off on trading him.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

What if Shady were part of a package to trade up with the Browns, who also need a running back? Browns draft 1st and 4th. If we wait until 21st, who will be left?

 

I would trade him to the browns no question.

 

I don't get theses other posters saying he is untouchable and should retire a Bill? He's a RB , which is easily replaceable, and only been here 3 years , they act like he's Fred  or Thurman.

 

 

 

 

[BobbyC81]

6 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

We really need to sign Cadet long term now.What about Tolbert?

 

Carolina is going to cut Jonathan Stewart and the Bills will sign him to join his buddy Tolbert.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

According to thebuffalofanatics Instagram page - the Bills are shopping LeSean McCoy. They claim they "dug deep" and "spoke to a source close to the situation".

 

I don't buy it. At his age and contract number, the return would be minimal for our best player on Offense. But a lot of people take them with their close to 50k followers as gospel.

 

If they did move him, I would be furious. I think it would be a terrible decision. What say you?

If we get a 2 would u be furious? Not me. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

With Shady now gone,maybe somebody can gather a list of vs fa rb's? Or do we draft one in the first round?

 

...not necessary.....we have the Pro-Bowler Tolbert.................

[nucci]

11 hours ago, ROONDOGG55 said:

Because of his salary I doubt he'd have a lot of value, especially since he's 30 with durability issues.

?

He's missed 11 games in his career

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCoLe01.htm

[Corp000085]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

I would trade him to the browns no question.

 

I don't get theses other posters saying he is untouchable and should retire a Bill? He's a RB , which is easily replaceable, and only been here 3 years , they act like he's Fred  or Thurman.

 

Neither of whom retired as Buffalo Bills (one day contract not withstanding).

[machine gun kelly]

McCoy is not getting traded. He constitutes more 40% of our offense and that is being conservative.  These Instagram posts are meaningless and can just say anything.

[Beast]

1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...not necessary.....we have the Pro-Bowler Tolbert.................

 

I’d rather have this pro-bowler.....

[BigBuff423]

6 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:

 

Carolina is going to cut Jonathan Stewart and the Bills will sign him to join his buddy Tolbert.

 

Tolbert was a 1 year contract, he’s a FA.

[H2o]

McCoy isn't going anywhere. They are just looking for click bait. It's not being reported by a single reliable outlet. 

[ALF]

If it takes McCoy in order to trade up for a QB , say with the Giants then yes.

[Gugny]

Trading him makes perfect sense for where the Bills are, as a team, right now.

 

I don't think Beane wants to build a team that has to rely on 50+ yard field goals, lucky INTs and limps backwards into the playoffs every year.

 

The Bills have a lot of needs and trading McCoy will help that situation, as well as make the Bills younger.

 

For the record - I'm a huge McCoy fan.  I loved when we got him and he's been one of my favorite Bills since he's been on the team.  Sometimes, it just makes sense to let someone go while you can get something for him.  Just as Bill Belichick.

[FearLess Price]

14 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

The process is about to die with this move.

 

 The Watkins trade and passing on Watson/Mahomes was pretty stupid as well. 

 

 

We got lucky It was fake news.

 

That Watson/Mahomes botch might cost us for years if we dont grab one of the top QBs this year tho.

55 minutes ago, H2o said:

McCoy isn't going anywhere. They are just looking for click bait. It's not being reported by a single reliable outlet. 

 

This.

[DrDawkinstein]

8 hours ago, Rico said:

Big difference though. Shady is beloved by the entire fanbase, while Sammy was not. I don't know if Pegs would sign off on trading him.

 

Youre on the right track but a little off the mark. The FO doesnt care who the fanbase loves or not, nor should they. We all know that Marv quote.

 

The big difference between Sammy and Shady is Sammy was an immature, selfish player who wasnt buying into the process and was more worried about his targets (as admitted in the recent Dunne article) than the team. Where as Shady, from that same article, is the consummate professional and vet leader, to the point that he was the one who called Sammy out in front of everyone for his targets quote.

 

While anything is possible, McBeane has shown they want to keep players like Shady around even at a premium. Especially if we are going to have a rookie QB in there. The best way to help a rookie QB is to have a strong running game. I'd be disappointed for a number of reasons if we did trade him.

[papazoid]

chadwick chad > Russians > fake news

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Youre on the right track but a little off the mark. The FO doesnt care who the fanbase loves or not, nor should they. We all know that Marv quote.

 

The big difference between Sammy and Shady is Sammy was an immature, selfish player who wasnt buying into the process and was more worried about his targets (as admitted in the recent Dunne article) than the team. Where as Shady, from that same article, is the consummate professional and vet leader, to the point that he was the one who called Sammy out in front of everyone for his targets quote.

 

While anything is possible, McBeane has shown they want to keep players like Shady around even at a premium. Especially if we are going to have a rookie QB in there. The best way to help a rookie QB is to have a strong running game. I'd be disappointed for a number of reasons if we did trade him.

 

I agree with 99% of what you wrote, DrD.  The only thing about which I feel differently .... the best way to help a rookie QB is to have a strong O line.  You build a stellar line, and any "good" RB can be a "great" RB.  And the young QB gets protection/time.

 

Trading McCoy could help with building that line (or the D line, which ties the O line for most important, IMO).

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I agree with 99% of what you wrote, DrD.  The only thing about which I feel differently .... the best way to help a rookie QB is to have a strong O line.  You build a stellar line, and any "good" RB can be a "great" RB.  And the young QB gets protection/time.

 

Trading McCoy could help with building that line (or the D line, which ties the O line for most important, IMO).

 

We're 100%. I agree and think its a combo of running and OLine. Look at Dak with Zeke and the OLine. I just didnt feel like typing more in my last post and didnt want to get off track by bringing the OL into it. But yeah, we're in agreement there.

 

I still wouldnt trade Shady and work on the OL in other ways.

[Rico]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Youre on the right track but a little off the mark. The FO doesnt care who the fanbase loves or not, nor should they. We all know that Marv quote.

 

The big difference between Sammy and Shady is Sammy was an immature, selfish player who wasnt buying into the process and was more worried about his targets (as admitted in the recent Dunne article) than the team. Where as Shady, from that same article, is the consummate professional and vet leader, to the point that he was the one who called Sammy out in front of everyone for his targets quote.

 

While anything is possible, McBeane has shown they want to keep players like Shady around even at a premium. Especially if we are going to have a rookie QB in there. The best way to help a rookie QB is to have a strong running game. I'd be disappointed for a number of reasons if we did trade him.

They just broke the 17-year drought though. Now as you said obviously anything can happen, but I think for this year and this year only, there would just be too much bad karma letting Shady go. It's not like Fred (washed-up) or Bruce/Thurman/Andre (need cap space) either. They already may be losing KW as it is.

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

They just broke the 17-year drought though. Now as you said obviously anything can happen, but I think for this year and this year only, there would just be too much bad karma letting Shady go. It's not like Fred (washed-up) or Bruce/Thurman/Andre (need cap space) either. They already may be losing KW as it is.

 

Losing KW is another sad positive.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

They just broke the 17-year drought though. Now as you said obviously anything can happen, but I think for this year and this year only, there would just be too much bad karma letting Shady go. It's not like Fred (washed-up) or Bruce/Thurman/Andre (need cap space) either. They already may be losing KW as it is.

 

I get what youre saying, and dont disagree, I just think it's last on McBeane's list of qualifiers. Especially after his Player's Tribune article. The Eagles/Chip already did him dirty once, Shady deserves better.

[Chuck Wagon]

If the Giants are truly building around Eli and not taking a QB early, Shady could be an interesting part of a trade package for them.

[HappyDays]

11 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

FWIW Sal Capaccio straight-up said it was not true and questioned the integrity of BF Fanatics:

 

 

 

Sal is not an insider. Any news he gets is news that the Bills want public. FWIW BuffaloFanatics did have inside info in the past but they were wrong about Maclin and haven't had much inside info since.

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Sal is not an insider. Any news he gets is news that the Bills want public. FWIW BuffaloFanatics did have inside info in the past but they were wrong about Maclin and haven't had much inside info since.

 

What does nflchatter.com have to say on the matter? 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

If the Giants are truly building around Eli and not taking a QB early, Shady could be an interesting part of a trade package for them.

 

That's an interesting point. Back to the NFC East, and especially if the Browns take Barkley #1...

[26CornerBlitz]

3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

If the Giants are truly building around Eli and not taking a QB early, Shady could be an interesting part of a trade package for them.

 

Building around a 38 year old Eli by adding a soon to 30 year old RB?   Can't see that as prudent at all. 

[Chuck Wagon]

9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's an interesting point. Back to the NFC East, and especially if the Browns take Barkley #1...

 

 

Their running back play was putrid last year, worst in the league.  Shady / Darkwa (who showed some flashes) / Vereen / Gallman seems much better.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Building around a 38 year old Eli by adding a soon to 30 year old RB?   Can't see that as prudent at all. 

 

Describing Shady as merely "a 30 year old RB" is both lazy and disingenuous. And if they are building around Eli, it would be to win right now. Maybe for the next 2-3 years. So Shady would fit that perfectly.

[26CornerBlitz]

22 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Describing Shady as merely "a 30 year old RB" is both lazy and disingenuous. And if they are building around Eli, it would be to win right now. Maybe for the next 2-3 years. So Shady would fit that perfectly.

 

It's the reality of who he is. If they want a RB they can just draft Barkley or another in the 2018 draft that is deep in quality and talent. What's lazy is thinking it's a good idea for a team like the Giants. Shady has far more value as a Buffalo Bill than to a team like the NYG. 

Edited February 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Playoffs?]

Only way I could get down with this would be to sign Cousins, trade up with Giants (picks and Shady), draft Barkley. 

 

Otherwise, I want Shady here. He has more in the tank and we know we don’t have a worthy replacement. Without a threat in the running game, our rookie QB and mediocre receivers are completely screwed. He is also veteran leadership that is walking out the door with Wood, and KW/TT (likely). 

[billsredneck1]

no way am i trading shady this year...especially if we have a young qb back there. i do hope that they bring in a very good rb2 though because last year we really missed that shady/td mike combo.

 

as far as the giants go, no way would i trade up that far for darnold or rosen. i think darnold's gonna need 2 yrs. and i just don't think rosen would be a fit in buffalo. the only qb i'd trade up for is mayfield. like i said earlier, i think the whole landscape will change when free agency starts.

 

i wouldn't mind them banking cousins. actually him , foles, or mc carron would allow us to really maximize our draft capitol.

[3rdand12]

18 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

We really need to sign Cadet long term now.What about Tolbert?

Mike should be locked down asap...
 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

12 hours ago, Corp000085 said:

 

Neither of whom retired as Buffalo Bills (one day contract not withstanding).

 

My point exactly, if they didn't then not concerned about Shady.

 

 

[Fadingpain]

So did we end up trading Shady on Saturday or not?

And did we secure that 2017 first round pick?!