Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Groy is the leader in the clubhouse, but with 3 holes on the OL now, those who wanted to draft an RB will likely be disappointed. This could also impact Buffalo's ability to move up, unless there are good FA center options. Replacing Wood is a serious monkey in the wrench for the Bills off-season. Why don't we see how free agency plays out...? It starts like 2 months before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 It is coming out that Wood was going to retire this year no matter what......maybe the plan to keep Groy all of a sudden starts to make more sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: This is a very real and natural place to go after hearing the news but one of the things that's really starting to turn me off about football. I don't blame you at all for starting the thread and it's a discussion to have but brutal to hear about a guy being forced into retirement and having this be one of the first items we are forced to turn to as a fanbase or organization. I hear ya, Chuck, but I don't think it is really football to blame as much as it is our internet culture. 7 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Regardless of how the Bills decide to address the issue, without a doubt throws a big monkey in their prior plans for FA and Draft. It will be interesting to see how Beane and company adjust... Yes. Truly C was not a spot they were considering they'd have to fill this offseason...or for a few years, for that matter. Edited January 26, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Wood is a great buy (it seems) and an above average center. He does have a couple bad games a year, but overall was a plus for the team. With Wood gone...Incognito maybe gone? (or at least he is getting older), Glenn maybe gone, we could be looking at a HUGE question mark for the ENTIRE line next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: First of all, thank you Eric for your service here and we all wish you well. We now need to look for his replacement. Do we go the free agent route, draft pick or next man up? Is Groy the replacement or are we looking to draft one of this class's top centers? This class has quite a few options at the center position but this would be something that would need to be taken in the 1st or 2nd round. Or do we hit the market and try to sign a guy like Ryan Jensen who was a first year starter this year for Baltimore but played like on of the top ones in the game. He's already stated that he's excited to see where this offseason takes him so he may be available. The more and more the offseason goes on, the more I think we will not be trading any of these picks to get a QB. Now we have another huge hole on the roster that needs to be filled. What are you thoughts on replacing wood? Groy all day. When he filled in before the line was quite good and I would want to give him a full chance before even thinking of looking elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I love Hubbard and if Groy is looking good at Center we can kick him outside at RT or even at guard . Hubbard can play all 5 spots on the line he'll be in demand this offseason. After re-signing some of our own, Hubbard is one of, if not the, priority FA for me. Provides a lot of value and won't break the bank, despite that I agree he will have suitors. 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: Why don't we see how free agency plays out...? It starts like 2 months before the draft. Because people discuss these things on a Buffalo Bills message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, mjd1001 said: Wood is a great buy (it seems) and an above average center. He does have a couple bad games a year, but overall was a plus for the team. With Wood gone...Incognito maybe gone? (or at least he is getting older), Glenn maybe gone, we could be looking at a HUGE question mark for the ENTIRE line next year. Expect something like this: Dawkins Incognito Groy Miller (due to scheme shifting back to his strength) RT-Draft pick or FA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I hear ya, Chuck, but I don't think it is really football to blame as much as it is our internet culture. Yes. Truly C was not a spot they were considering theyd have to fill this offseason...or for a few years, for that matter. Thanks dude. I get it. I said it's a natural thought to think about replacements and view these guys just as X's and O's on our TVs. Just something that's starting to turn me off as I am now getting older than the majority of guys still playing. I didn't mean to attack anyone or incite anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There’s a good cchance that he doesn’t make it out of round 1. There’s no chance that he makes it out of round 2. Dark horse is Bradley Bozeman, played at Alabama for Daboll. He knows if he is NFL Caliber. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: Why don't we see how free agency plays out...? It starts like 2 months before the draft. Nah, time to panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 maybe draft someone like Bradley Bozeman to learn from Groy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Could be both that would be idea as Price is also a solid guard. Price likely is picked before our pick, IMO. If not Price, I see us grabbing OL help early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Who can we draft to replace him after we move up to number 2??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, jr1 said: maybe draft someone like Bradley Bozeman to learn from Groy I like this option a lot, and our OC would be familiar with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: This is a very real and natural place to go after hearing the news but one of the things that's really starting to turn me off about football. I don't blame you at all for starting the thread and it's a discussion to have but brutal to hear about a guy being forced into retirement and having this be one of the first items we are forced to turn to as a fanbase or organization. I don't get it. Nobody is being disrespectful to Eric Wood. Knowing that he won't be here, it's natural for people to start wondering "What do we do now at center?" It's just speculation on where the team will go in his absence. Everyone here wishes him and his family well moving forward, but he will have to be replaced by someone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Fun fact, Groy spent about a month on the Patriots roster in 2015 while Daboll was there, so there is some crossover. It's not a big connection, but they are familiar with each other and one would assume he is the type of lineman who fit the scheme. Also, I know we all hate Juan Castillo, but if he is back Ryan Jensen would be a nice get in free agency. Jensen developed under Castillo and had a really nice year in his first year as a starter. He's 26 years old. He can also play guard. Honestly I'd sign Jensen and have Groy. One plays center, one plays RG. Edited January 26, 2018 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, corta765 said: Groy all day. When he filled in before the line was quite good and I would want to give him a full chance before even thinking of looking elsewhere. I'd be bringing in someone to compete. I'm not just going to hand him the job. I'd draft someone and have them compete. We need depth too and Incognito is old and RG is up for grabs too. We could use a few new lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 44 minutes ago, BillsCuse said: What's the salary cap implications? He just signed a 2 year extension this year. Will there be a dead cap like him being cut? Or would the Bills recoup all that $ since he is retiring? And not trying to be insensitive to him, he's a great guy and player. Just wondering since roughly $8 million a year is a big chunk for cap reasons We are in big trouble unfortunately because of the extension, will seriously hamper this teams offseason plans now because of the impending $10 million cap hit. Groy is probably going to be the guy by default but this obviously opens up another glaring hole to pursue in FA and the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 It'll be interesting to see what takes place. I'm disappointed for Eric. He was a classic lunchpail guy. The issue I'm seeing right now is that the OL outside of Dawkins and Incognito is in shambles. We're not sure of what will happen with Glenn. The entire right side needs to be upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think it's Groy. We brought him back for a hefty price for a back up. It wasn't really that hefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Groy. The bigger question is backup Center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, sullim4 said: Wood's cap number is $8.625MM. I'm assuming this all gets freed if he retires, correct? That's a significant chunk of money... they will be able to go after someone in FA. Does not. Read it actually goes to 10 million with retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 As I said in the other thread, Groy played very well when Wood went down last year. I think the staff knows and is comfortable plugging him in there. They don't need to put another position on the FA/draft priorities list this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Way too early for this, classless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: Way too early for this, classless thread. When would be good for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 There are so many ways the Bills could go, I don't see too much point in trying to predict it. The most obvious are, of course, Ryan Groy or a high draft pick (Billy Price). Price stands a good chance of being available where Buffalo picks and would be a good value. If the Bills go with Groy, they might look for a veteran free agent to back him up, or a day 3 draft pick, or maybe even a UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Process said: This is just a stupid post, I'm sorry. We are all very concerned for him, he seams like a really great guy and was great for the community. But none of us know him personally and our lives will move on. Wish him the best, but there are far more tragic things that happen in this world every single day. Anyways, there's nothing wrong with this thread. To be honest I'm not too concerned for the bills, he's always been a bit overrated as a player and at his age would have needed to be replaced in the next couple years anyways. Wishing you the best Eric. I totally agree. There's multiple threads discussing Wood , the injury and his legacy as a Bill. Nothing but respect being shown and prayers being said. This is a Bills board and the OP is bringing up a very real and valid point. What do you think our front office is doing? The people that know him and his family? They are evaluating the hole left and evaluating what to do about this sad news. With that said, Groy I believe might be better on the field, I think he can be a slight upgrade on the field. Wood will leave a big time void though as a respected leader and captain. My prayers to him and his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: When would be good for you? News came out less than an hour ago. Eric Wood is the gold standard as far as what a Buffalo Bill should be. I just think it comes off as callous and ungrateful to start lining up potential replacements. Now is the time for thoughts and prayers, just seems way too early for this. I don't care who replaces Wood, I just hope he recovers and lives a happy and healthy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 A suggestion. Per Walterfootball: Austin Corbett, OT/C, Nevada Height: 6-4. Weight: 305. Projected 40 Time: 5.12. Projected Round (2018): 3-5. 1/22/18: Corbett was a versatile blocker for Nevada since he became a freshman starter. As a redshirt freshman and sophomore, Corbett was Nevada's starter at left tackle. For his junior year, he moved to right tackle, but was back at left tackle as a senior. Corbett received a Senior Bowl invitation and is listed at center for practicing in Mobile. Will be interested to see how he fares during the Senior Bowl practices/game. We know OBD likes 4-year starters. Versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 There gonna go with Groy and sign a back up quality center. He played well when Wood got hurt in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: News came out less than an hour ago. Eric Wood is the gold standard as far as what a Buffalo Bill should be. I just think it comes off as callous and ungrateful to start lining up potential replacements. Now is the time for thoughts and prayers, just seems way too early for this. I don't care who replaces Wood, I just hope he recovers and lives a happy and healthy life. So when is okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: So when is okay? Probably a day or two after the fact, but a few hours after the news broke? It's so scummy it makes me sick. So much for being the NFL'S "best fans". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Probably a day or two after the fact, but a few hours after the news broke? It's so scummy it makes me sick. So much for being the NFL'S "best fans". Relax "New Day" , it's not "scummy". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Can we get this thread locked until NewDay is okay with the discussion? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Does not. Read it actually goes to 10 million with retirement Not according to Sportrac. The first link is about how retirement affects the salary cap, which would make it essentially the same as a cut. https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2016/3/5/11158958/nfl-101-how-cuts-retirements-and-trades-affect-the-salary-cap http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/eric-wood-5637/ Not sure where you guys are getting the $10m number (actually curious -- i'm no expert and recognize i could very well be wrong), but according to what I've read, it's 5.5m. It would have been an 8.5m hit if he were still playing. Wish it were an 8.5 mil hit and he were still able to play next year, but these appear to be the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Does not. Read it actually goes to 10 million with retirement Sportrac has it at $5,591,668. 4.3 in prorated bonus money, and a restructure bonus that lowered his cap hit from last year. 7 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Not according to Sportrac. The first link is about how retirement affects the salary cap, which would make it essentially the same as a cut. https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2016/3/5/11158958/nfl-101-how-cuts-retirements-and-trades-affect-the-salary-cap http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/eric-wood-5637/ Not sure where you guys are getting the $10m number (actually curious -- i'm no expert and recognize i could very well be wrong), but according to what I've read, it's 5.5m. It would have been an 8.5m hit if he were still playing. Wish it were an 8.5 mil hit and he were still able to play next year, but these appear to be the facts. Yeah - all the bonus money is already paid so that gets pushed into this year. Roster bonuses/workout bonuses don't count - as they were not met. Guaranteed base salary is also paid out, but he didn't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, matter2003 said: It wasn't really that hefty. For a back up that wasn't slated to even compete for the RG spot....I thought it was a little high. I thought after he signed it, he would compete to start at RG. The tender we matched from the Rams was near a 2nd round tender. Edited January 26, 2018 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think it's Groy. We brought him back for a hefty price for a back up. Nothing more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It will probably be Groy but in a perfect world, Billy Price in the draft. I like this. Draft Billy price in the second if possible and let him and Groy fight it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 May I offer up Billy Price - Ohio State Univ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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