1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. The other option would be to trade for Smith, but I would not give up anything more than a 3rd and still draft Mayfield provided he falls to 21. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsRdue said: After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. The other option would be to trade for Smith, but I would not give up anything more than a 3rd and still draft Mayfield provided he falls to 21. i agree if we can still get mayfield..we cant have peterberg in there while mayfield learns the ropes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Can Bradford even walk anymore ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Depends if Shurmur gets a HC gig. Keenum wants to go with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Depends if Shurmur gets a HC gig. Keenum wants to go with him. Sounds like Shurmur may be heading to Zona. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Depends if Shurmur gets a HC gig. Keenum wants to go with him. Unless Minny puts a franchise tag on him. Doubt it, but it will get interesting to see how the QB quest shakes out all over the league and how Daboll re-invents the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Keenum won't be let go because that prayer was answered? I don't think that's how they'll make their decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: Keenum won't be let go because that prayer was answered? I don't think that's how they'll make their decision. Yes, it will. No way Keenum is going anywhere. If he doesn't negotiate something reasonable (based on his history), they'll franchise tag him. Imagine if Tyrod had beaten the Jags last week and then thrown a last 15 second TD pass to, umm, Kelvin Benjamin to beat the Steelers this weekend. No way he would've been dumped in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yes, it will. No way Keenum is going anywhere. If he doesn't negotiate something reasonable (based on his history), they'll franchise tag him. Imagine if Tyrod had beaten the Jags last week and then thrown a last 15 second TD pass to, umm, Kelvin Benjamin to beat the Steelers this weekend. No way he would've been dumped in the offseason. He wouldn't have been franchised. You're reacting in the moment, not off sound judgment. If I'm wrong, I'll own it, but keenum is not getting franchised. They've been cool on him all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: He wouldn't have been franchised. You're reacting in the moment, not off sound judgment. If I'm wrong, I'll own it, but keenum is not getting franchised. They've been cool on him all year. Everything changed this evening. I'm not saying franchise-tagging Keenum is a good football decision, or that re-signing him to a big extension is a good football decision. But this is how teams react to playoff success. And after a very good season, and a miracle playoff win, I really can't see the Vikings parting with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: He wouldn't have been franchised. You're reacting in the moment, not off sound judgment. If I'm wrong, I'll own it, but keenum is not getting franchised. They've been cool on him all year. I think they'll be able to work out a reasonable deal. Keenum has shown them enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Maybe you guys are right. I will give you that, a qb who has shown he can get to a conference championship usually gets the extension from his own team. I guess I feel one way, but can see both sides and I might usually disagree with what I was saying earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tcali said: i agree if we can still get mayfield..we cant have peterberg in there while mayfield learns the ropes 20 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. The other option would be to trade for Smith, but I would not give up anything more than a 3rd and still draft Mayfield provided he falls to 21. Yeah we have to stop going to goodwill stores for QBs. Draft one high. Take a shot if one of the top 3s there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, FearLess Price said: Yeah we have to stop going to goodwill stores for QBs. Draft one high. Take a shot if one of the top 3s there Bradford threw for 3,877 yards with 20 td's and 5 int's for a 99.3 rating in 15 games last year. I wouldn't call him a goodwill store quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. The other option would be to trade for Smith, but I would not give up anything more than a 3rd and still draft Mayfield provided he falls to 21. Mr. Glass isn't worth the flier imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Keenum has been a top 5 QB this year. If he were here would you pay to see if he could do it again? I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I think they'll be able to work out a reasonable deal. Keenum has shown them enough. If you think about the surprise QBs who step in and then take a team to the conference championship or even the Super Bowl, you'll notice that almost every time that QB is brought back the following season: -Doug Williams/Redskins. Jay Schroeder led them to the playoffs. Williams took over and went 0-2, but they caught fire in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl with Williams. He came back (and didn't last long); they let Schroeder move on -Jeff Hostetler. Beat some team (I forget which one) to win the SB after taking over for Phil Simms (who accumulated all the victories that got them to the playoffs). Next season: Hostetler began as starting QB even though Simms was clearly the better QB. -Brad Johnson. Won a SB, stayed on even though everyone knew it was kind of a fluke. -Tom Brady. There was no "but Drew Bledsoe is the guy who really got us there" talk ... Trent Dilfer is the only exception that comes to mind, and if I remember correctly that was because Seattle signed him as a free agent. Finish strong as a QB and the job is yours, until you prove that it was, indeed, a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 If you had asked me even 8 weeks ago which QB from the Vikings was going to be on another team next year, I’d have bet the farm on Keenum. At this point, after this game, there is no way they let him go. Bradford, while a good QB, is guaranteed to miss 3 games a season minimum due to an injury. Bridgewater was looking good prior to his injury, but nobody knows how good he can play because Keenum has proven to be capable of leading this team, and has not not needed to relinquish his hold on the position. At this point, they have to know that he has the support of his team- look where they are thanks in part to him. Even if they had doubts before, that whole team has to be on board with Keenum for today and for the next season. He’s earned it. that being said, I don’t believe we would go after either of the other Minnesota QBs at this point. Keenum is the only one we would likely consider of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Batman1876 said: Keenum has been a top 5 QB this year. If he were here would you pay to see if he could do it again? I would. You always run the risk that this was more of a one year wonder (like Foles in 2013 or Anderson in in 2007) so a short term deal or the franchise tag makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Billsmisery said: Would hate to see the Vikes get a SB before us. Unless it's against the pats* Yeah. I found myself pulling for the Saints even though I like the Vikes story. Reason? I thought Drew Brees would have the best chance of the remaining teams/QBs to take out the Pats. Now I have to put all my hope on Blake Bortles or Case Keenum or Nick Foles? That leaves me with "at least they'll have to beat two of the best defenses in football." I'm running out of threads of hope here.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Doc Brown said: You always run the risk that this was more of a one year wonder (like Foles in 2013 or Anderson in in 2007) so a short term deal or the franchise tag makes sense. I agree but either way you don’t let the guy walk unless you are sure you have some other top guy lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: You always run the risk that this was more of a one year wonder (like Foles in 2013 or Anderson in in 2007) so a short term deal or the franchise tag makes sense. I really wanted us to sign Foles and let Tyrod go in the last offseason. I still think he's a legitimate Alex Smith-type starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Two are walking. They are only keeping 1 Edited January 15, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. The other option would be to trade for Smith, but I would not give up anything more than a 3rd and still draft Mayfield provided he falls to 21. Bradford was the backup today and Bridgewater was inactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 That team is funny. It has a tendency to make mediocre QBs look very good. Bradford had a pretty crappy career and looked good there. Fools gold Keenum had a crappy career and is one game away from a Superbowl. Everyone says ooooooo ahhhhhhhh QB. In reality they were pretty bad before they got there. We kill coaches and QBs they resurrect others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, Tcali said: i agree if we can still get mayfield..we cant have peterberg in there while mayfield learns the ropes Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Starr Almighty said: Who? I think he means Peterperson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Bradford threw for 3,877 yards with 20 td's and 5 int's for a 99.3 rating in 15 games last year. I wouldn't call him a goodwill store quarterback. He basically has a plastic knee at this point. To invest that much in an injury prone qb sounds pretty billsy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: If you think about the surprise QBs who step in and then take a team to the conference championship or even the Super Bowl, you'll notice that almost every time that QB is brought back the following season: -Doug Williams/Redskins. Jay Schroeder led them to the playoffs. Williams took over and went 0-2, but they caught fire in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl with Williams. He came back (and didn't last long); they let Schroeder move on -Jeff Hostetler. Beat some team (I forget which one) to win the SB after taking over for Phil Simms (who accumulated all the victories that got them to the playoffs). Next season: Hostetler began as starting QB even though Simms was clearly the better QB. -Brad Johnson. Won a SB, stayed on even though everyone knew it was kind of a fluke. -Tom Brady. There was no "but Drew Bledsoe is the guy who really got us there" talk ... Trent Dilfer is the only exception that comes to mind, and if I remember correctly that was because Seattle signed him as a free agent. Finish strong as a QB and the job is yours, until you prove that it was, indeed, a fluke. The only exception I can think of besides Dilfer was Neil O'Donnell, of course he had 2 awful, back-breaking INTs in the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) I’d take Teddy Bridgewater. He is a free agent also. Edited January 15, 2018 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I'm truly surprised it took this many minutes to pass before yet another "what about Bradford" thread was born. I expected so much more... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Please please please NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I don't want Bradford with his probably of being injured. if the idea is to bring in a vet to start a year or two while our newly drafted rookie learns behind him, this will backfire with Bradford since he most likely won't be available for several games. The rookie QB will end up starting, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 No thanks, Bradford is an injury waiting to happen. I’ve seen grandmas with hip replacements with better durability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 No way. His knees are crap. I would have welcomed Sam Bradford if his knees were durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. The other option would be to trade for Smith, but I would not give up anything more than a 3rd and still draft Mayfield provided he falls to 21. I’m against Drafting Mayfield at all....unless it’s 6th round or later. No thanks... To clarify, he may turn into a great Pro, but since early round picks are mostly about mitigating risk and gaining reward, he’s not worth it based on typical NFL QB attributes and some maturity issues you don’t want from a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Two are walking. They are only keeping 1 Agreed. None of the three are going to re-sign to be a backup. Keenum comes back and Bradford or Bridgewater follow Shurmur. I've been thinking Bradford to Washington as he's a good fit for what Jay Gruden does and Bridgewater to Arizona with Shurmur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, frostbitmic said: Can Bradford even walk anymore ? 58 minutes ago, H2o said: Mr. Glass isn't worth the flier imo Sure he can and sure he is. Just give him a bunch of kale smoothies. I hear they make football players immune to injury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: After today, the Vikings will not let Keenum go. They will keep Teddy as a backup. He gets time to heal up and prove he can be a future guy. Bradford gets a new team. He's a bit fragile for the Bills to put money into, but I wonder what Daboll thinks about him. I'd take a flyer if the price is right and draft Mayfield. Maybe he doesn't want to be a backup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Gugny said: Bradford was the backup today and Bridgewater was inactive. I did not know that. That's telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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