Sam Bradford To The Bills..? Puke

[corta765]

So bleacher report released a fun article today highlighting where they think QB's are going next season and the potential carousel that could be spun in motion.

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748670-early-predictions-for-the-wild-2018-nfl-qb-carousel)

 

They have the Bills acquiring Sam Bradford. My response: Puke. Sam Bradford is the definition of average at the QB position and would only solidify more 7-9 8-8 seasons. This season has basically been one with zero expectations. Next season though I would like to start seeing some growth one way or another towards the future. I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and have him start even if we have growing pains, then settle for a ceiling of 9-7 with Bradford.

 

The Bills have done a nice job acquiring picks, building a bit of a base this season, and over performing so far which if were lucky might result in the playoffs. This is not the time for Buffalo to settle with an option like Bradford.

[26CornerBlitz]

Wounded Knees.  He should really consider retirement.

[Tatonka68]

"NO MORE 2ND HAND QUARTERBACKS ALREADY". If they were any good they would not be passed around like a bad present at a white elephant party.

Edited December 13, 2017 by Tatonka68

[section122]

Bradford really appeared to turn a corner last year and played extremely well week 1.  That said you can't rely on him to get through a full year as a starter.  So maybe as a bridge to their drafted player but he's not the answer imo.

[FearLess Price]

10 minutes ago, corta765 said:

So bleacher report released a fun article today highlighting where they think QB's are going next season and the potential carousel that could be spun in motion.

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748670-early-predictions-for-the-wild-2018-nfl-qb-carousel)

 

They have the Bills acquiring Sam Bradford. My response: Puke. Sam Bradford is the definition of average at the QB position and would only solidify more 7-9 8-8 seasons. This season has basically been one with zero expectations. Next season though I would like to start seeing some growth one way or another towards the future. I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and have him start even if we have growing pains, then settle for a ceiling of 9-7 with Bradford.

 

The Bills have done a nice job acquiring picks, building a bit of a base this season, and over performing so far which if were lucky might result in the playoffs. This is not the time for Buffalo to settle with an option like Bradford.

 

Im there too. Draft our 1st round rook, get an oc that will coach him up right and let him start next season if hes ready and wins in tc.

[Jay_Fixit]

I don’t hate it.

[MAJBobby]

Bleacher Report means about as much as this.................................

 

MAJBobby says Alex Smith to Buffalo

 

 

 

and then i read the article and man i lost IQ points

Edited December 13, 2017 by MAJBobby

[dave mcbride]

18 minutes ago, corta765 said:

So bleacher report released a fun article today highlighting where they think QB's are going next season and the potential carousel that could be spun in motion.

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748670-early-predictions-for-the-wild-2018-nfl-qb-carousel)

 

They have the Bills acquiring Sam Bradford. My response: Puke. Sam Bradford is the definition of average at the QB position and would only solidify more 7-9 8-8 seasons. This season has basically been one with zero expectations. Next season though I would like to start seeing some growth one way or another towards the future. I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and have him start even if we have growing pains, then settle for a ceiling of 9-7 with Bradford.

 

The Bills have done a nice job acquiring picks, building a bit of a base this season, and over performing so far which if were lucky might result in the playoffs. This is not the time for Buffalo to settle with an option like Bradford.

Oddly, I think Bradford has evolved into a near-elite QB but is not acceptable because of his knee. It's a mess. I wonder if ever even plays again. 

18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Wounded Knees.  He should really consider retirement.

He may well. Apparently they couldn't locate any tear in his MRI in September because the scar tissue obscured everything.

[White Linen]

16 minutes ago, section122 said:

Bradford really appeared to turn a corner last year and played extremely well week 1.  That said you can't rely on him to get through a full year as a starter.  So maybe as a bridge to their drafted player but he's not the answer imo.

 

I agree with this fully.  Bradford has definitely looked like a viable starting QB in the NFL - but he just can't stay healthy.  

 

If/when we draft a QB, we may need a bridge QB and he's they type I'd certainly consider.  

[Mrbojanglezs]

better than Tyrod

[Tatonka68]

Might as well resign Fitz and repeat 17 years of garbage.

[corta765]

7 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I agree with this fully.  Bradford has definitely looked like a viable starting QB in the NFL - but he just can't stay healthy.  

 

If/when we draft a QB, we may need a bridge QB and he's they type I'd certainly consider.  

 

My biggest issue with a bridge QB is lets just say Bradford or a QB like that comes in and gets the team to 9-7 even 10-6 and they make the playoffs. It's hard to then take that guy out and plug in the rookie who then is expected to have no flaws. My best case scenario would be the Bills break the drought and draft a guy like Darnold so the pressure is off in terms of playoffs and even if he has a growing year where maybe we fall back to 6-10 the foundation is truly set. I just feels we have had a lot of bridge guys like Fitz, Taylor, Orton and been down that road I guess. Respectfully .02

[BrooklynBills]

Can we trade for Pat Shurmur instead?

[JPP]

Glassman Bradford...no thank you...

[Chris from Rochester]

12 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

My biggest issue with a bridge QB is lets just say Bradford or a QB like that comes in and gets the team to 9-7 even 10-6 and they make the playoffs. It's hard to then take that guy out and plug in the rookie who then is expected to have no flaws. My best case scenario would be the Bills break the drought and draft a guy like Darnold so the pressure is off in terms of playoffs and even if he has a growing year where maybe we fall back to 6-10 the foundation is truly set. I just feels we have had a lot of bridge guys like Fitz, Taylor, Orton and been down that road I guess. Respectfully .02

I completely agree.  I'm afraid we are going to get Cousins in free agency and use our picks to build around him instead of taking a shot at one of the qb prospects this year.  I don't want an average qb anymore who will win us 7-9 games, I want a game changer 

[DefenseWins]

Frankly, I'd rather obtain Keenum than Bradford and still draft the best QB we can find...

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

50 minutes ago, corta765 said:

So bleacher report released a fun article today highlighting where they think QB's are going next season and the potential carousel that could be spun in motion.

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748670-early-predictions-for-the-wild-2018-nfl-qb-carousel)

 

They have the Bills acquiring Sam Bradford. My response: Puke. Sam Bradford is the definition of average at the QB position and would only solidify more 7-9 8-8 seasons. This season has basically been one with zero expectations. Next season though I would like to start seeing some growth one way or another towards the future. I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and have him start even if we have growing pains, then settle for a ceiling of 9-7 with Bradford.

 

The Bills have done a nice job acquiring picks, building a bit of a base this season, and over performing so far which if were lucky might result in the playoffs. This is not the time for Buffalo to settle with an option like Bradford.

 

Bradford is the original Fool's Gold QB.

 

He's actually better than average, when he's healthy and plays.  Take a look at last year in Minn: 71.6% completions, 20 TD, 5 INT, 7.3 AY/A.  Those are very good numbers indeed, and he started out the 2017 season with similar. 

Yet in his 8 seasons in the league, he's managed to play >=15 games 3x, plus an additional 14 game season.  So he's been undependable as the QB in half of his 8 seasons.

 

That's why he's Fool's Gold.  He looks all sparkly and attractive, but if you hitch your franchise to his QB wagon, you'll be left on the side of the season.

37 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Oddly, I think Bradford has evolved into a near-elite QB but is not acceptable because of his knee. It's a mess. I wonder if ever even plays again. 

He may well. Apparently they couldn't locate any tear in his MRI in September because the scar tissue obscured everything.

 

Jesu.  Well, that doesn't surprise me.  There's a guy who'll be signing up for a "handicapped" tag before he celebrates his "over the Hill" Birthday.

[Mat68]

Im ok with Bradford if Buffalo takes Allen or Jackson.  If its Bradford over a first rd qb there would be no interest from me.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

51 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I don’t hate it.

 

I do.

 

[Jobot]

Unfortunately, he would not survive playing behind Buffalo's O-Line.  Good qb, but he's a guaranteed IR case.

[Jay_Fixit]

30 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

I do.

 

So where do we go from here?

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, corta765 said:

So bleacher report released a fun article today highlighting where they think QB's are going next season and the potential carousel that could be spun in motion.

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748670-early-predictions-for-the-wild-2018-nfl-qb-carousel)

 

They have the Bills acquiring Sam Bradford. My response: Puke. Sam Bradford is the definition of average at the QB position and would only solidify more 7-9 8-8 seasons. This season has basically been one with zero expectations. Next season though I would like to start seeing some growth one way or another towards the future. I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and have him start even if we have growing pains, then settle for a ceiling of 9-7 with Bradford.

 

The Bills have done a nice job acquiring picks, building a bit of a base this season, and over performing so far which if were lucky might result in the playoffs. This is not the time for Buffalo to settle with an option like Bradford.

 

Sam Bradford would make as much sense as Kolb did...he will be out for the season after slipping on his way to practice too.  Seriously, he would die behind this OL.  Over under on games started be at best 3.   

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said:

So where do we go from here?

 

Hopefully we go after a QB in the draft.

 

One named Rudolph.

 

[Like A Mofo]

7 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Hopefully we go after a QB in the draft.

 

One named Rudolph.

 

 

 

Or another Sam in the draft

[JoPar_v2]

BR is trash and reading it will kill your brain cells. Do yourself a favor.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Wounded Knees.  He should really consider retirement.

 

...pretty sure he comes with two replacements and a 90 day warranty............

[Luka]

It would depend on the deal. Wouldn't hate it though, keeps them from selling their draft souls for a QB.

[TigerJ]

2 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I don’t hate it.

That's about where I am.  I understand the health issues, but I also think that by next season Nate Peterman could be a very good backup QB even if he's not quite ready to start.  By that, I think the Bills can win the Peterman as QB next season.  I think that if the Bills sign a high profile QB in the off season (Sam Bradford qualifies) they will not draft a QB high in the draft.  I could see them drafting another developmental type, if they agree with me that Peterman is ready to be a quality backup.  That would create some nice competition for the future.

[Jay_Fixit]

15 minutes ago, Luka said:

It would depend on the deal. Wouldn't hate it though, keeps them from selling their draft souls for a QB.

Oh Luka.

[Gray Beard]

Has anyone with a history of injuries ever come to Buffalo and it turned out ok?

It seems like the other way around.  People come to Buffalo and their injuries get worse.

Not a fan of Bradford and his knees coming to Buffalo.

[aristocrat]

problem is we need to sign someone in free agency cause we don't know what the draft will bring. which might mean tyrod stays on the team until post draft. 

[Jamie Muellers Ghost]

Give me Bridgewater in the Dennison offense but I believe the Viking will keep him.

[corta765]

38 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

That's about where I am.  I understand the health issues, but I also think that by next season Nate Peterman could be a very good backup QB even if he's not quite ready to start.  By that, I think the Bills can win the Peterman as QB next season.  I think that if the Bills sign a high profile QB in the off season (Sam Bradford qualifies) they will not draft a QB high in the draft.  I could see them drafting another developmental type, if they agree with me that Peterman is ready to be a quality backup.  That would create some nice competition for the future.

 

I agree with this. Next years offense even if it is with a newly drafted QB will still be very run heavy and if it is with a vet it will be a QB that is going to distribute the ball well for the WRs.

[Teddy KGB]

Bradford’s good for 4 games.   Whose gonna play the other 12 ?

[Kmart128]

Bleacher report is just for anybody with internet. Anyone with internet could write an article. This forum has better credibility

[Luka]

49 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Oh Luka.

 

Well you know, unless someone provides me a run down of all the QB's on the west coast, then maybe my opinion could be swayed.

I like Clayton Thorson.

 

Or Tebow.

[Albwan]

this article is stupid, he would trip and break his legs before he even made it into a game.

he needs to retire, seems like he has a zero chance of finishing a season.

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

"NO MORE 2ND HAND QUARTERBACKS ALREADY". If they were any good they would not be passed around like a bad present at a white elephant party.

 

generally a good take.  But I think Bradford is a low tire-1 QB.  The injury bug is his issue.  If we draft a QB, he could be a good guy for the rookie to learn behind (or even for Peterman to learn from) before taking over due to injury or, perhaps reverse curse, he stays healthy with the Bills! 

39 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said:

Bradford’s good for 4 games.   Whose gonna play the other 12 ?

 

rookie QB or Peterman.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

BR is trash and reading it will kill your brain cells. Do yourself a favor.

 

This.  If you want to kill brain cells, go for single malt Scotch.  It goes down much more smoothly and provides more warmth.

I mean he** BR is online, unlike old-time trash pubs you can't even use it to light charcoal.

2 hours ago, Luka said:

It would depend on the deal. Wouldn't hate it though, keeps them from selling their draft souls for a QB.

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/12/13/16764316/latest-sb-nation-mock-draft-involves-massive-buffalo-bills-trade-up-sam-darnold-usc-joe-webb

 

If we're discussing "anyone can write" pubs, superbowl nation has us trading up for Darnold.   Guess you'd hate that?

 

 

[Luka]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This.  If you want to kill brain cells, go for single malt Scotch.  It goes down much more smoothly and provides more warmth.

I mean he** BR is online, unlike old-time trash pubs you can't even use it to light charcoal.

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/12/13/16764316/latest-sb-nation-mock-draft-involves-massive-buffalo-bills-trade-up-sam-darnold-usc-joe-webb

 

If we're discussing "anyone can write" pubs, superbowl nation has us trading up for Darnold.   Guess you'd hate that?

 

 

 

The two guys worth drafting are going 1 and 2. The rest of it is a crap shoot. Sorry but banking the franchise's future on Rudolph or Allen or Mayfield isn't going to pan out. If they land in your lap or you've got to spend a 3rd to move up then great but trading up to 4 for the third best QB or 4th best QB just isn't how you build a team. Not what everyone wants to hear but it's the truth. And they are being extremely generous projecting Darnold at 4. It will be Rosen/Darnold 1 and 2.