Steptide Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 It worked 14 years ago! In all seriousness, these highlights never get old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Oh how that year blew up fast! That was a much more talented defense that the 2017 Bills. But I agree, if they can scheme it right, and people have a good day, I think Brady can be touched. So long as the offense can get some points and return serve I think the Bills should be competitive. This is not the same Pats who won super bowls. Their offense line is good, but not great. Defense has to be play their most disciplined game of the year to make this a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Pressure works... with your front 4. You blitz him and he'll tear you apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Ahhhh, those were the days, when we didn't know what we had in Bledsoe compared to the next 13 years of QB disaster. Defense was really firing that day....have to think Bledsoe and Milloy had their personal agendas on fire for that game. I CANNOT believe it's been that long since we've seen a team like that one, as bad as they were, they had talent at nearly every position group that could rival any other....parity has helped us in the NFL, but man has it been a looooong time since I felt confident on game day about the Bills winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Nothing really works in terms of how it impacts other quarterbacks. But pressuring Brady does work to a point. It has to be a certain sort of pressure though. The best pressure to apply on Brady is when it comes up the middle of the field. Edge rushing doesnt work as well because its not the path of least resistant, it takes too long. He is at his worst when pressure comes up the middle and it comes fast. The Giants always did this so well and to a certain extent the Texans did it last year in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Pressure up the middle works. Can't let him step up. But obviously it has to come quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 our front 4 hasnt been real impressive this year, our offense doesnt seem capable of putting up a high score, add that to the fact that Brady is usually at his best vs a zone defense. I hope im wrong but I have a feeling this game might be a nightmare, much like our previous 3 game historic ass whoopin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Whoever said pressure doesn't work against Brady is wrong. We've seen teams give him trouble - not often - but we've seen it disrupt their offense. He doesn't throw picks but it's the only way to have a chance. The issue is two fold - one, that's not what this years Bills team does well, so we may struggle to do it. Second, they'll still score and we'll ultimately have to outscore them, again not something we do particularly well. Edited November 30, 2017 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Haaaa memory lane. That was fun and we all remember it. And it was fun seeing Chris and TJ as well. One of the best duo for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) That was an amazing game to be at. I so miss TKO! Edited November 30, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Nothing matters if we don’t stop their run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Alot of those pressures on Brady in that 03 game were from guys that were totally unblocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) I ordered my Takeo Spikes 51 home jersey right after that game and still sport it at the bars on game day til this day. Big fan of his when he was in Cincy and was so stoked when we signed him. What a player he was. Edited November 30, 2017 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) According to space.com, a Blue Moon happens, on average, once every 2.7 years. Brady is presently 26-3 against Buffalo in 29 starts (29 games effectively represents 14.5 seasons (let's call it 14.5 years for sake of this discussion) of games between the 2 teams where Brady has started. So, 14.5 years / 3 wins = 4.83 -- which means Buffalo gets a victory over Tom Brady, on average, once every 4.83 years or seasons. So, sadly, the math quite literally says that Blue Moons happen with much greater regularity than do Buffalo wins over Tom Brady - dang close to being twice as frequently. Ah, being a Buffalo fan is a special place (in hell) Edited November 30, 2017 by ChasBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 only to get repaid 31-0 at the end of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, K-9 said: Nothing matters if we don’t stop their run game. You can say that against any team. Call me crazy, but if Brady has even a slightly below average game, the Bills lose. I also remember thinking Brady was nothing more than a flash in the pan after that game. I have never been more wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Steptide said: It worked 14 years ago! In all seriousness, these highlights never get old There is a difference between pressure and blitzing. When Brady has failed it has been against 4/5 man fronts with exotic schemes that force him to take an extra second to look at the field while the pressure beats his line up front. Otherwise against the blitz he has something like 70 TDs and zero INTs. So yea blitzing is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habes1280 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 46 minutes ago, ChasBB said: According to space.com, a Blue Moon happens, on average, once every 2.7 years. Brady is presently 26-3 against Buffalo in 29 starts (29 games effectively represents 14.5 seasons (let's call it 14.5 years for sake of this discussion) of games between the 2 teams where Brady has started. So, 14.5 years / 3 wins = 4.83 -- which means Buffalo gets a victory over Tom Brady, on average, once every 4.83 years or seasons. So, sadly, the math quite literally says that Blue Moons happen with much greater regularity than do Buffalo wins over Tom Brady - dang close to being twice as frequently. Ah, being a Buffalo fan is a special place (in hell) Well, there's a special place in hell for posts like this. Well done, my brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, CLTbills said: Pressure works... with your front 4. You blitz him and he'll tear you apart. Exactly. Pressure always works against Brady so long as you don’t have to sacrifice coverage to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, CLTbills said: Pressure works... with your front 4. You blitz him and he'll tear you apart. Ain't that the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Have your front four get close, stay in front of him, stand up, and wave their arms. He won't like it. It has worked in the past. If the defense lets themselves get pushed to the side and the back, he will step into the pocket, and the slicing and dicing will commence. In Mario's last season with the Bills, he would let himself get pushed behind the QB all the time. It looked like he was so close, but really it was ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Deandre Coleman should "accidentally" step on his ankle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: You can say that against any team. Call me crazy, but if Brady has even a slightly below average game, the Bills lose. I also remember thinking Brady was nothing more than a flash in the pan after that game. I have never been more wrong. Sure, we can say that about any team. But it’s magnified when any team has a Brady at the controls; their running game makes him that much more effective; especially when they catch you in nickel and dime packages and go with an extra TE and pick up the pace to prevent you from countering with a better sub package. I dont think you can stop Brady; he’s going to get his. It just pisses me off when they punch us in the mouth with a good running game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick B Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Sure it will work. But do you really believe we can get pressure on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Blitz make it entertaining. I can't stomach 3 hours of watching Bills linebackers chase around Patriots running backs and Amendola. Put Brady on his ass so while they are running to the end zone I can rewind it and watch the old man hit the ground for a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 He's going to carve you up no matter what, so at least hit him and hope to get a fumble or force him into a poor throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I honestly would just bring pressure with 4 all day and force him to pass the ball into tight windows. I think if we blitz Brady will just pick it up and get huge chunks of yardage. 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: He's going to carve you up no matter what, so at least hit him and hope to get a fumble or force him into a poor throw I normally would do this but I just don't think we have the pass rushers for it. I would send a few well timed blitzes but for the most part I'm playing zone and hope the front 4 get pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: Ain't that the truth... this is a load of bs. blitz and sooner or later you're gonna lay the wood. step 1. we also have gaines, tre and the safeties to take advantage of hurried throws. there's no way in hell we are gonna beat him with out bringing the heat. we can lay down and go ..what 27-3 or we can punish. i'll take the latter. it's time to make a statement and beat the hell out this team. win or lose and we ain't got nothing to lose. Edited December 1, 2017 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 If I'm on the bills d line, I'd litterally do this to stop Brady. Seriously, Kyle, Hughes and Shaq all doing this woukd be unstoppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hamburg Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Chiefs beat the Patriots with a 3 man rush..... sent all units into coverage and won...got to have a good plan and stick with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 the front four need to be super aware of the passing lanes, especially on crossing routes ( with those nasty picks they do ). Hand Up Boys. can't get there? Hand up ! Take the gut punching their evil O line will do for the good of the Team. rush four. Deandre should get some reps Sunday 15 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said: Chiefs beat the Patriots with a 3 man rush..... sent all units into coverage and won...got to have a good plan and stick with it We did that with Ryan. We do not have coverage LBs right now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Fourteen years ago. . . . like a bad dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) Pressure works against anyone. How many guys are you going to have to send to generate enough of it tho? If its more than the 4 base rushers you have he will find open receivers before you can get there and render it useless. They will just start leaving a guy in to block and he will carve you apart--we've seen it all too often. Perfect throws in the face of a blitz that are mind boggling. 7 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: He's going to carve you up no matter what, so at least hit him and hope to get a fumble or force him into a poor throw Can't remember what year it was, but I can still remember opening week, first play of the season from scrimmage, Bills sack Brady on a blitz(I think Spikes), he fumbles and I believe Fletcher returns it for a TD. I thought...man this is going to turn out really good....it didn't. Neither the game or the season. Edited December 1, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 that was the game the N.E. players mailed in over internal protest from releasing lawyer milloy the week before. later that year, NE returned the favor beating the bills by the reverse score 31-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Anyone that thinks you can play soft zone against this team and win has not paid attention for the last 2 decades. Brady absolutely shreds the soft zones. If I see Hughs running backward at the snap to cover some receiver in a zone, I will lose all faith in this coaching staff to ever have a clue. You absolutely have to pressure Brady, up the middle, in his face. Sure if you can do it with 4; that's awesome. But we all know our front 4 can't do that... They haven't all year. So we have to send timed blitzes frequently! Then you play the receivers in tight, man coverage, jamming them on the line. Because you absolutely have to disrupt the timing of the passing offense and try to take away the shallow, crossing, pick plays that they love. If you play zone, 5 yards off the ball, you're dead. There is no single way to beat this cheating team. But you have an immobile QB with a sore achilles, that loves shallow, crossing, pick plays. Stop that and you have a shot. Let him stand upright with no pressure, and we've all seen him pick apart every team that's ever tried it. On offense... Keep Tyrod mobile! I don't care if he runs on every pass attempt. But, if they think he can stand in the pocket and routinely read a BB defense, they're nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 NFL Primetime was great to watch with Chris and Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Brady can be confused when the D stands around prior to the snap and doesn't show what they are trying to do. It takes away Brady's ability to read the D and adjust pre-snap, b/c there is "no D" to read. Rex did that to him at that one game in Buffalo and it frustrated and confused Brady in a way I haven't seen in years. We still lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Brady and Gilmore are the 2 biggest pansies on the field this sunday. I don't know the answer but if we can get Jerry Hughes to whack him a few times, he's going to start throwing into the dirt when he gets scared.. got to protect that body if you want to play to 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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