freeagentqb Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Trying to figure out what our problems are. Bills and Sabres - many, many different players, coaches and staff and schemes, etc. We still lose in spite of all these changes and still have a fragile loser mentality which seems to snowball at any hint of adversity. What is the constant or common denominator? - Maybe, just maybe the constant in all of this is the constant negative media and coverage that continually pick at any sore wound. I'm starting to believe its affecting all of us and our teams with a not good enough, never win, here we go again attitude. Negativity reigns supreme. Just my humble opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Nope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Blaming the problems of Buffalo's Major Sports Teams on the media is pretty weak. They have no power over who gets hired and what player personnel decisions are made. It's a ridiculous premise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Who in the media is playing D for the Bills, as for the Sabres when the media can lace up skates then blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mrbojanglezs Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Blaming the problems of Buffalo's Major Sports Teams on the media is pretty weak. They have no power over who gets hired and what player personnel decisions are made. It's a ridiculous premise. They have all the power to influence the emotions of the public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: They have all the power to influence the emotions of the public And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Yeah..... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Great thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Bay Chad Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 WOW is this a stretch. Intelligent people can separate fact from fiction. Their job is to sell news or they don’t get paid or have a job. Most are frustrated wanna be athletes. They are just doing their job. If you are swayed by their opinion the London bridge is not for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 blaming the media is like blaming the fans. it just doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Blame the media. How original. Liberal media with its fake news. LOL 6 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: blaming the media is like blaming the fans. it just doesn't make sense. actually the fans are more negative than the media by a mile. It's like a loser fest on this board. It was not like this even a few years ago. Society is sure pumping out some mentally stable people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Use your own eyes and ears to see what is going on, if you believe all of what you see and hear in the media, you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Who knows? Your take is as plausible as anyone elses’. Not likely though. I will say I have never seen an NFL team start 5-2, look pretty good. Then get blown away three in a row looking like the worst team in the league by far. That just speaks to a fragile makeup. The Sabres are in a league of their own. Terrible chemistry, no accountability, mentally weak, poor goaltending. And really, there’s zero help on the farm so no hope of getting better soon. That’s a product that has declined. I’m shocked if they get 10k per game after January unless it’s Canadians coming to watch their teams. To blame it on the negative media though is a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Well for me personally I do think the media has played a small role in the disfuncton. The media job is to report the news and ask tough questions WHEN NEEDED. I give you an example. Take Coach Sal at WGR. During press conferences he asks football related questions that are pertainent in a PROFESSIONAL manor which is how its surpose to be done. In contrast take Sully at the Buffalo News. He gets real sarcastic when speaking like he knows more than them and colllectively they put on due pressure on the coaches and players and you may say what does that matter. Well that puts pressure on the OWNER to make changes when staying the course should be a option. How long would the media give a rookie QB before they nickpick every throw. They are worst than the fans that they write for. Most of the media is wantabees who think they are the smartest people in the room (Mike Schoop) when most of them cant hold the jock strap of the players and coaches they cover Edited November 23, 2017 by Protocal69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 The media can be blamed in part for fueling the giant weekly swings in opinion about this team. If from week to week you read the articles and listen to media talk the Bills go from great to sucking in a matter of days. Very little of what is written includes analysis of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I think it's all the accrued L's over the years. Media has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Blame the media. How original. Liberal media with its fake news. LOL actually the fans are more negative than the media by a mile. It's like a loser fest on this board. It was not like this even a few years ago. Society is sure pumping out some mentally stable people. you know nedboy, I don't know how long you've been a fan but not only the last couple decades but the last three games this season alone can and has turned the fans sour. maybe you're a glutton for punishment? for you to question those fans, call them pathetic or question their mental stability is showing a very weak observation on your part and at the end of the day you should actually question yourself on your pathetic opinion of those fans. why in the world would you even let it bother you? if you want to drink the kool-aide and praise the team who is and has been losing year in and year out, that is your prerogative. just as it is their prerogative who don't drink the kool-aide or support the incompetence that has been the buffalo bills for all of the 21st century. just a suggestion, if you can't take it, why come here just to complain about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: They have all the power to influence the emotions of the public They don't influence me. I'm able to watch a game and understand all by myself. Maybe weak people are influenced, but how does that effect the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Just Win and the Media negativity goes away. With that, it be nice for Buffalo and National media outlets understand McD and the FO are in a full rebuild. Edited November 23, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Wait.... this wasn't a tongue-in-cheek thread as in this was a REAL thought? Dang our country is going down the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Blame the media. How original. Liberal media with its fake news. LOL actually the fans are more negative than the media by a mile. It's like a loser fest on this board. It was not like this even a few years ago. Society is sure pumping out some mentally stable people. Is it loserfest at wawa time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Just Win and the Media negativity goes away. With that, it be nice for Buffalo and National media outlets understand McD and the FO are in a full rebuild. yet again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Nah, I blame the players. They can’t even execute a simple tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Blaming the problems of Buffalo's Major Sports Teams on the media is pretty weak. They have no power over who gets hired and what player personnel decisions are made. It's a ridiculous premise. ...go back to 2004.....Moo's club was at 9-6 playing the Steelers' 3rd string......win and they're in, ending the schneid....they whiffed and ended up at 9-7 on the outside...BUT....the media termed them "up and coming.......contender in 2005...", a positive spin.......so they tanked in 2005 at 5-11 and the media turned on them again..."same 'ol Bills"......fast forward to now about Bills & Sabres.....it does appear that they may both have better FO & Administration personnel in place on paper early on...and the personnel function will take time IMO....BUT.....the on field/on ice performances continue to fuel the media negativity frenzy and it is definitely NOT the other way around.....IF it was remotely true, we have far, FAR bigger problems with BOTH organizations.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I blame Rodak and Sully. The two are media sadists that enjoy torturing an extremely loyal fan base with their incessant negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said: I blame Rodak and Sully. The two are media sadists that enjoy torturing an extremely loyal fan base with their incessant negativity. ....but doesn't the redundantly woeful on-field product have a bit of something to do with THEIR negativity or even TBD negativity???.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 There's definitely a losing culture surrounding both teams. When the media keeps asking you if your team is somehow going to screw it up, just like every year, I'm sure it doesn't help their mental state. That said, the organization is ultimately accountable. I think the Pegulas are trying their best to win - unlike Ralph the issue isn't money or lack of attention. I think they've just made two very poor choices in Rex and McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....but doesn't the redundantly woeful on-field product have a bit of something to do with THEIR negativity or even TBD negativity???.......... Yes. But when you are down and frustrated you have to blame somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Nope, not the media's fault. The media is interested in selling newspapers and keeping the fans attention on themselves. Creating news and creating controversy. That said, they don't influence poor team management and player evaluation. They don't influence coaching blunders and in-game play calling and or adjustments to scheme. They don't influence player's ability and their desire to win. We as fans continue to support losing franchises and funding undeserving superstar life styles. Sports are entertainment and athletes, entertainers. If our sports were a play or a movie or a musical, etc, both teams would have shutdown years ago. We continue to support substandard product and then fail to encourage those who play for the love of the game. Support Friday night football like they do in Texas. Go to a UB Bulls game and show support for these guys who most will not be playing on Sunday's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bills Fan of Maryland said: Nope, not the media's fault. The media is interested in selling newspapers and keeping the fans attention on themselves. Creating news and creating controversy. That said, they don't influence poor team management and player evaluation. They don't influence coaching blunders and in-game play calling and or adjustments to scheme. They don't influence player's ability and their desire to win. We as fans continue to support losing franchises and funding undeserving superstar life styles. Sports are entertainment and athletes, entertainers. If our sports were a play or a movie or a musical, etc, both teams would have shutdown years ago. We continue to support substandard product and then fail to encourage those who play for the love of the game. Support Friday night football like they do in Texas. Go to a UB Bulls game and show support for these guys who most will not be playing on Sunday's. ....and as long as woeful performances (sure they'll bypass new regimes and the necessary or reasonable time for them to develop both clubs) provide them with fuel, they will light the "proverbial and controversial fires" to sell, sell, sell....nature of the beast.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Well, I thought I was on to something - guess not. I'll let myself out........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, bobm said: Well, I thought I was on to something - guess not. I'll let myself out........ No shame in getting your started thread post count up! heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, bobm said: Well, I thought I was on to something - guess not. I'll let myself out........ ....you're fine....it was a legitimate question...and people responded with their opinions.....if the media "tail" was "wagging the Bills and Sabres personnel" into a self-pity frenzy, the current holes would be a helluva lot deeper............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 from what school of logic did you graduate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Wait.... this wasn't a tongue-in-cheek thread as in this was a REAL thought? Dang our country is going down the toilet. It scares me that there are so many people in this thread who really want to blame the media for 17 years of futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 WGR is the worst, the fans that call in there are regular bitchers, call after EVERY GAME, same guys over and over 10 minutes of that can make anyone negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Are we under the impression the media is more harsh and invasive than other markets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 5 hours ago, bobm said: Trying to figure out what our problems are. Bills and Sabres - many, many different players, coaches and staff and schemes, etc. We still lose in spite of all these changes and still have a fragile loser mentality which seems to snowball at any hint of adversity. What is the constant or common denominator? - Maybe, just maybe the constant in all of this is the constant negative media and coverage that continually pick at any sore wound. I'm starting to believe its affecting all of us and our teams with a not good enough, never win, here we go again attitude. Negativity reigns supreme. Just my humble opinion. Really???! Reporting on suckiness does not a problem make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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