Gamache518 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I am here just to see some opinionated thoughts.It's always good to fill the pot with something to talk about when something has taken place. 1. Do we activate a WR from the PS, seems most logical and if so who? 2. Do we make a TRADE to fill the VOID of Mathews? 3. Do we activate a WR from the PS and also make a TRADE? * I would love to activate Reilly, and also try to throw out some magic and obtain OBJ or Sheppard for M. Dareus and a 2018 2nd Rnd. Draft choice. * or is this overthinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 See the WR panic thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Trading Dareus is at least at 14 million cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I think the odds of a major trade (involving a pick higher than rd 4) is highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 See the WR panic thread. Amen. I seriously doubt they give up any draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Trading Dareus is at least at 14 million cap hit. And even if you are willing to take that hit, what team wants to take on Dareus's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 And even if you are willing to take that hit, what team wants to take on Dareus's contract? None.. some people think its as easy as snapping a finger to trade a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamache518 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 For OBJ you wouldnt give up a 2nd rnd. Pick and eat some of Dareus's cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 For OBJ you wouldnt give up a 2nd rnd. Pick and eat some of Dareus's cap hit. Lmao. This isnt Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamache518 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 No, you are definitely right sir, this is not but there has been crazy scenarios this off season that had alot of us at aw, but just trying to pick some heads on what some possibilities are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Most likely, we will activate someone off PS and/or bring back Brown. There is absolutely no reason to give up future draft capital for Matthews being out approximately 4 weeks...one of which is the bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Reilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 See the WR panic thread. See the I dont like this thread so Im gonna be a d-ck comment. Here come the rest of the d-bags to follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I am here just to see some opinionated thoughts.It's always good to fill the pot with something to talk about when something has taken place. 1. Do we activate a WR from the PS, seems most logical and if so who? 2. Do we make a TRADE to fill the VOID of Mathews? 3. Do we activate a WR from the PS and also make a TRADE? * I would love to activate Reilly, and also try to throw out some magic and obtain OBJ or Sheppard for M. Dareus and a 2018 2nd Rnd. Draft choice. * or is this overthinking? I think you've under thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhDozeBills Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I am here just to see some opinionated thoughts.It's always good to fill the pot with something to talk about when something has taken place. 1. Do we activate a WR from the PS, seems most logical and if so who? 2. Do we make a TRADE to fill the VOID of Mathews? 3. Do we activate a WR from the PS and also make a TRADE? * I would love to activate Reilly, and also try to throw out some magic and obtain OBJ or Sheppard for M. Dareus and a 2018 2nd Rnd. Draft choice. * or is this overthinking? You're out of touch and not paying attention if you think McD would want a guy like OBJ and just as ridiculous to think the Giants would get rid of him and pick up Dareus' salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I would see if the Giants would give up Brandon Marshall for a late round pick. Marshall isn't a world beater anymore but he is still a highly effective player who would be a upgrade over what the team currently has. Maybe a 5th or 6th round pick could get him away from the 0-4 Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Anquan Boldin wanna unretire now that we're 3-1??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Vincent Jackson is still a FA no? Kick the tires on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I would see if the Giants would give up Brandon Marshall for a late round pick. Marshall isn't a world beater anymore but he is still a highly effective player who would be a upgrade over what the team currently has. Maybe a 5th or 6th round pick could get him away from the 0-4 Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I am here just to see some opinionated thoughts.It's always good to fill the pot with something to talk about when something has taken place. 1. Do we activate a WR from the PS, seems most logical and if so who? 2. Do we make a TRADE to fill the VOID of Mathews? 3. Do we activate a WR from the PS and also make a TRADE? * I would love to activate Reilly, and also try to throw out some magic and obtain OBJ or Sheppard for M. Dareus and a 2018 2nd Rnd. Draft choice. * or is this overthinking? Next man up whether that be PS, guy coming back from injury, doesn't matter, players get hurt all the time, if it isn't next man up then what the hell is the next man doing on our team at all? A trade makes zero sense at this point considering he'll have to learn the PB and work with the QB and it will take usually a week or 2 to gel at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Did they release Powell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Next man up whether that be PS, guy coming back from injury, doesn't matter, players get hurt all the time, if it isn't next man up then what the hell is the next man doing on our team at all? A trade makes zero sense at this point considering he'll have to learn the PB and work with the QB and it will take usually a week or 2 to gel at least. it'll be next man up. once you're in-season, personnel changes are pretty minimal... he's only out 3 games. welcome to the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Did they release Powell? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sal Capaccio said yesterday morning on WGR that once a guy is signed to the 53 they get 3 game checks anyway so it probably makes the most sense to just bring up Reilly or Dupre. With the bye week, Matthews might only miss 3 games so that kind of works out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 At this stage I wouldn't make a move to obtain a WR from outside the organization if he didn't fit the teams long term needs. Odds are you would get more production from the PS candidates who are familiar with the system than the external options that would take weeks before they even begin to get acclimated with the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Dwayne harris is burried on the Giants. When he had to the chance to play two years ago he produced. This is type of low cost player they should try to grab. He also plays on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Could be a trade. But I'm next to no belief in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Zay, Holmes, Tate, Clay, Split Thomas out, PS (Reilly/Dupre), Webb That feels most like what we'll do in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 See the I dont like this thread so Im gonna be a d-ck comment. Here come the rest of the d-bags to follow suit.Just ignore it if you dont like it, no? As for me, I would be interested in seeing Powell re-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Bring Reilly up. That's all they need to do for WR right now. Matthews will be back in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Reilly, Philly or Powell all likely. Don't know much about Dupre. With this admin I feel like a trade is always a question of "relative value." If they could get the wide receiver equivalent of EJ Gaines for a pick I could see them doing it (a young, good character talent who they would want now and in the future - not a rental). But it likely would not be a player with a current high profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) We presently have a group of WRs that is marginally talented at best. Zay has been what could be called "marginal at best". But he is a rookie, so he gets a pass for a year before he can be labeled "a bust". We hope the light does come on for him. The Bills coaching staff feels these WRs are the most talented players they can put on the field. They beat out the players on our PS, so the coaching staff feels they are even inferior to even the marginally talented players we already have at starters. And the coaching staff feels those inferior players are better than the players available on the 30+ other team's PS in the NFL, or they would have poached them already. Getting a player from your own, or another team's PS means you are getting a player you feel is even more marginally talented than the players on our active roster, one of the worst WR rosters in the NFL today. That does not make the team better, or replace the only proven talented player we had on our WR roster. Signing a FA or a trade is the only way you can improve on one of the worst WR rosters in the league. And the FA pickings are pretty slim. If I were the Bills, I would be figuring out exactly what it would take to convince one of our own, Boldin, to unretire. At 3-1, it might be more attractive to him than he expected. And if he plays 3 or 4 games and decides to again retire, he will be a competent replacement while Matthews recuperates. Edited October 3, 2017 by simpleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Reilly, Philly or Powell all likely. Don't know much about Dupre. With this admin I feel like a trade is always a question of "relative value." If they could get the wide receiver equivalent of EJ Gaines for a pick I could see them doing it (a young, good character talent who they would want now and in the future - not a rental). But it likely would not be a player with a current high profile. Powell was released yesterday We presently have a group of WRs that is marginally talented at best. Zay has been what could be called "marginal at best". But he is a rookie, so he gets a pass for a year before he can be labeled "a bust". We hope the light does come on for him. The Bills coaching staff feels these WRs are the most talented players they can put on the field. They beat out the players on our PS, so the coaching staff feels they are even inferior to even the marginally talented players we already have at starters. And the coaching staff feels those inferior players are better than the players available on the 30+ other team's PS in the NFL, or they would have poached them already. Getting a player from your own, or another team's PS means you are getting a player you feel is even more marginally talented than the players on our active roster, one of the worst WR rosters in the NFL today. That does not make the team better, or replace the only proven talented player we had on our WR roster. Signing a FA or a trade is the only way you can improve on one of the worst WR rosters in the league. And the FA pickings are pretty slim. If I were the Bills, I would be figuring out exactly what it would take to convince one of our own, Boldin, to unretire. At 3-1, it might be more attractive to him than he expected. And if he plays 3 or 4 games and decides to again retire, he will be a competent replacement while Matthews recuperates. He just needs to catch the ball..he is getting open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'm down for both. We need to try something different. We are running bad WR out now. Reilly and/or Dupre and trade for a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just ignore it if you dont like it, no? As for me, I would be interested in seeing Powell re-signed. Correctamundo. As for the question theyll promote from within IMO. Donald Jones felt a guy off the street would probably be pretty limited in the routes he could initially run. I get the feeling this coaching staff is not only big on continuity but wants to reward the guys who are busting their butts on the practice squad waiting for their chance. He just needs to catch the ball..he is getting open Perfect time for Zay to step it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Bring Reilly up. That's all they need to do for WR right now. Matthews will be back in a month. Is Matthews going to be just fine after thumb surgery? Is he worth waiting around for? In my opinion, we should be exploring WR options even if Matthews didn't get hurt. It's weird that this staff almost seems to disregard the position, and its importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The way Mcdermott does things I would not be surprised if this week they work Reilly and Dupree into the rotation and see which player earns it, Whichever guy shows enough is getting activated Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The way Mcdermott does things I would not be surprised if this week they work Reilly and Dupree into the rotation and see which player earns it, Whichever guy shows enough is getting activated Saturday. My thoughts too. McD is so process oriented that he wants someone who is familiar with the system and can rotate in. The PS guys know what is happening and they probably don't want a vet coming in looking for a paycheck unless they are 100% bought into the system and coaches. mcD is clearing out the dead wood and won't bring more in, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I hope that they do explore options on a trade for a veteran receiver. They don't need to go crazy trading a high round pick for a high impact player, but I think it sends a good message and it helps the team out if they bring in a decent vet receiver for a mid to late round pick. I think the Giants are a logical trade partner. They have a lot of talent at the receiver position and are 0-4. Maybe they are willing to part with Brandon Marshall for a 4th or 5th round pick. That's the kind of trade I would be targeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Next man up whether that be PS, guy coming back from injury, doesn't matter, players get hurt all the time, if it isn't next man up then what the hell is the next man doing on our team at all? A trade makes zero sense at this point considering he'll have to learn the PB and work with the QB and it will take usually a week or 2 to gel at least. Next man up is fine if you have good depth. Why does a trade for a good WR make zero sense? There are three quarters of the season left to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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