Bray Wyatt Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) The Wall of Fame is nothing to joke about. Neither is our only winning season in 15+ years. I guess some guys here don't recognize who made that possible. I would have left town too judging from the vitriole demonstrated in this thread for a guy who was nothing more than a professional doing his job...and he did it quite well. I understand what you are saying and as a great admirer of Orton (Kyle not Randy) I think we should at least make sure that it is known we had a winning season in 2004, so that would be 13 yrs ago, I don't want people to attack your post based on that math error rather than the overarching theme of Orton and all that he did for the bills Edited September 28, 2017 by Bray Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is that Anthony Jeselnik? sure looks like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I still have the vision of Orton sliding short of the 1st down. That play--his short tenure here--and lack of playoffs precludes him from the Wall. We have had better players in the losing seasons that deserve to be on the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think he may have to wait till they recognize Brian Moorman as a QB. Highest rated QB in Bills history, not his fault he was misused and definitely under utilized in the passing game. This is a very fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 I still have the vision of Orton sliding short of the 1st down. That play--his short tenure here--and lack of playoffs precludes him from the Wall. We have had better players in the losing seasons that deserve to be on the Wall. What is this repetitive argument about his slide short of 1st down marker?? The behind the scenes story I heard from a coaching source who was there said that Marrone was yelling from the sideline "Get down! Get down!" and Orton followed his coaches advice. Now I don't know why Marrone told him to get down at that moment (one yard short of the first down) but he couldn't disregard his coach's directions. So that's another feather in Orton's cap...listens and executes the play calling and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Fergy...I sincerely ask you if you are serious about this thread or if you are just having fun with it. You can PM your answer and I promise I wont share. I just can't for the life of me believe there is any authentic or sincerity to this thread, and if there is, I just don't really know how to respond other than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Fergy...I sincerely ask you if you are serious about this thread or if you are just having fun with it. You can PM your answer and I promise I wont share. I just can't for the life of me believe there is any authentic or sincerity to this thread, and if there is, I just don't really know how to respond other than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMarko Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think Bjorn Nitmo should go up before Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 this isn't like the Basketball Hall of Fame where everyone gets in. Bills have some respect for the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 this isn't like the Basketball Hall of Fame where everyone gets in. Bills have some respect for the Wall. Yep. Maybe this is like a participation trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'd let him slide. Haha, he could trip onto it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This is one of those topics to breeze through because of the hilarious responses. 12 pages on a topic that really has no reason to exist other than to kick around some humorous banter. I'm thinking that this topic was a joke to see how many responses something ridiculous could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'm thinking that this topic was a joke to see how many responses something ridiculous could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Does Kyle Orton deserve to be on the WOF? Edited September 28, 2017 by KermitMcDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leonbus23 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) He sacrificed precious time with his new born to bring us to our finest seasonal record during the drought. He is a man of high moral character and family values. That's the kind of character we want on the WOF. Orton donated over a million dollars to the air force veterans memorial in Colorado Springs after seeing their show in Denver. He also works with to help homeless vets who are down on their luck. Lastly, he has been an advocate for military wives educational stipend since 2008. Finally, he helped to find homes for abandoned pit bulls called Kyle's Pits. Edited September 28, 2017 by leonbus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yes. I say there's good reason to have him up there. * Name another Bills QB who had us on the brink of the playoffs in the last 12 years. * 12 games played for 3018 yards (extrapolate those numbers to a full 16 games and we're talking 4000 yards in a full season) * QBR of 87.8 * 15 rushes, 14 yards with a long of 10 yards in 12 games (extrapolate that to a full season and he would have easily had over 100) * 18 TD's and 10 INT's is a ratio of 2 to 1...extrapolate that over a full season and he would have had 24 TD's * Mental toughness and team leader * If we had him as a rookie in 2005 he probably would have surpassed Kelly (or come close) if you extrapolate his stats from 2014 over the course of nine NFL seasons. I'm not saying he is a lock to get a place on the stadium Wall of Fame, but the team should give full consideration to his credentials both as a player and team leader considering how he came in a led our team to its best record in a very long time. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 He sacrificed precious time with his new born to bring us to our finest seasonal record during the drought. He is a man of high moral character and family values. That's the kind of character we want on the WOF. Orton donated over a million dollars to the air force veterans memorial in Colorado Springs after seeing their show in Denver. He also works with to help homeless vets who are down on their luck. Lastly, he has been an advocate for military wives educational stipend since 2008. Finally, he helped to find homes for abandoned pit bulls called Kyle's Pits.Do you mind if I copy and paste this to the original post? These are the types of criteria that matter (not sure OJ ever did these types of charitable acts and his ass is up there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Its the basis of the Wall of Farm argument. If he passes for 4000 plus yards that year.... ect. I'm on the wall of farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 So who is going to be on the TBD WALL OF TBD? SDS has to be number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmz56 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Do you have any for sale Fergy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Do you have any for sale Fergy?Any what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 This is such a tired thread. Of course he deserves a spot on the Wall. The real debate is whether he goes into Canton as a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 This is such a tired thread. Of course he deserves a spot on the Wall. The real debate is whether he goes into Canton as a Bill.I can appreciate how you've considered all the stats, history, character, community support...I say Orton falls somewhere between Favre and Marino in terms of all time greats and the other traits referenced above. But I'm not there yet on putting him in Canton. What I fail to comprehend, though, is why he can't find a place on New Era's Wall of Fame. I guess guys want to wait for the messiah some draft year but what those TBD members fail to appreciate is we had the Messiah here three years ago and we ran him out of town. I guess we can't have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Kermit McDermott on the WOF, FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I can appreciate how you've considered all the stats, history, character, community support...I say Orton falls somewhere between Favre and Marino in terms of all time greats and the other traits referenced above. But I'm not there yet on putting him in Canton. What I fail to comprehend, though, is why he can't find a place on New Era's Wall of Fame. I guess guys want to wait for the messiah some draft year but what those TBD members fail to appreciate is we had the Messiah here three years ago and we ran him out of town. I guess we can't have nice things. That low? What'd he do, impregnate and abandon your sister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Beebe Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Orton? Simply put, no. Deserving Bills from the "Drought Era" are Freddy Jackson, Kyle Williams, and maybe Lee Evans. London Fletcher a long shot. No Brian Moorman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thought this thread was a joke. Orton had a subpar year and lead the 26th scoring offense that had an elite defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Bob Kalsu played more games than Orton, and of course he was Bob Kalsu. Bob truly belongs, Kyle....was a nice brief addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 You're just jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thought this thread was a joke. Orton had a subpar year and lead the 26th scoring offense that had an elite defense. Why bring Tyrod into this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Why bring Tyrod into this?? Mirror mirror on the wall who brought Tyrod into this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thought this thread was a joke. Orton had a subpar year and lead the 26th scoring offense that had an elite defense. Do you even extrapolate, bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thought this thread was a joke. Orton had a subpar year and lead the 26th scoring offense that had an elite defense. It was the plays toward the end of the game that mattered most. The rocket passes to Sammy and Hogan. The quick thinking and fast reflexes. Not to mention EJ played 4 games and contributed to our lowly offensive rank. If Orton had those four games instead of EJ our offense would have been Top 8-10. Do you even extrapolate, bro?This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It was the plays toward the end of the game that mattered most. The rocket passes to Sammy and Hogan. The quick thinking and fast reflexes. Not to mention EJ played 4 games and contributed to our lowly offensive rank. If Orton had those four games instead of EJ our offense would have been Top 8-10. This But Tindale first right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 But Tindale first right?Pitch me on Tindale. I'm listening but Tindale and Darrick Holmes are a close second IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Yes. I say there's good reason to have him up there. * Name another Bills QB who had us on the brink of the playoffs in the last 12 years. * 12 games played for 3018 yards (extrapolate those numbers to a full 16 games and we're talking 4000 yards in a full season) * QBR of 87.8 * 15 rushes, 14 yards with a long of 10 yards in 12 games (extrapolate that to a full season and he would have easily had over 100) * 18 TD's and 10 INT's is a ratio of 2 to 1...extrapolate that over a full season and he would have had 24 TD's * Mental toughness and team leader * If we had him as a rookie in 2005 he probably would have surpassed Kelly (or come close) if you extrapolate his stats from 2014 over the course of nine NFL seasons. I'm not saying he is a lock to get a place on the stadium Wall of Fame, but the team should give full consideration to his credentials both as a player and team leader considering how he came in a led our team to its best record in a very long time. Hmm. That is a thought is never had. I don't think so. One reason: he was a chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Hey now, NO quarterback out there could get every first down or recover every fumble by himself. Its a team sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1. Still can't believe this is a real thread. 2. I am shocked that its gone on for 14 pages already. 3. Ironically simultaneously shocked its not at 50 yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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