IDBillzFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Kyle Orton on the WOF is insanity that approaches the insanity of the racism oozing out of this nation since last week. From Kyle Orton on the WOF straight to racism. Is there anything racism can't do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 From Kyle Orton on the WOF straight to racism. Is there anything racism can't do? I think he's right to a certain extent. Racism is a preconceived notion about another based on religious or outward appearances without considering the background or achievements of that individual in a setting. Honestly, the Orton hate is real and not really racist but borders on it. What did Orton do to deserve this hate other than give us the taste of success we have been clammoring for well over 16 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Kyle Orton on the WOF is insanity that approaches the insanity of the racism oozing out of this nation since last week. Have you been so enveloped by the drought that you need to honor a player that was maybe a millimeter above mediocre? I'm personally on the fence about Orton. He was the best leader the bills had during the current drought, but his tenure was short. Do we recognize short term brilliance? I haven't answered that one for myself yet. But, I do need to call you out for calling the OP a racist. I don't think he has shown any racist tendencies & I believe he would support Orton irregardless of his racial identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think he's right to a certain extent. Racism is a preconceived notion about another based on religious or outward appearances without considering the background or achievements of that individual in a setting. Honestly, the Orton hate is real and not really racist but borders on it. What did Orton do to deserve this hate other than give us the taste of success we have been clammoring for well over 16 years? You're trolling the wrong person, but I like your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Okay.... this is an odd forum topic. I will bite - NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 That means Tyrod is a Hall of Famer lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 That means Tyrod is a Hall of Famer lolIf he throws for 4200 in a season like Orton did (should have if he played EJ's four games) yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 If he throws for 4200 in a season like Orton did (should have if he played EJ's four games) yes. I thought it was 3018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 If he throws for 4200 in a season like Orton did (should have if he played EJ's four games) yes. Chicago ranked 30th in passing defense that year. Could have meant an extra 100-150 yards for Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I don't think guy did much for us to be on the wall. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-orton-a4038435/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I thought it was 3018? e-x-t-r-a-p-o-l-a-t-e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 e-x-t-r-a-p-o-l-a-t-eFinally someone gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 e-x-t-r-a-p-o-l-a-t-e That is not how sports works. Increase usage normally equates to less efficiency. At his age there is no way to know he could make it through a full season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This is one of the most troll threads ever made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 That is not how sports works. Increase usage normally equates to less efficiency. At his age there is no way to know he could make it through a full season. Tom Brady and Brett Favre would disagree. Peyton Manning too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 That is not how sports works. Increase usage normally equates to less efficiency. At his age there is no way to know he could make it through a full season. This is a subjective discussion and having the ability to predict the whole is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Tom Brady and Brett Favre would disagree. Peyton Manning too. Orton is none of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Not before Billy Joe Hobert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This is a subjective discussion and having the ability to predict the whole is important. Its the basis of the Wall of Farm argument. If he passes for 4000 plus yards that year.... ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 That is not how sports works. Increase usage normally equates to less efficiency. At his age there is no way to know he could make it through a full season. ...and I already proved above that Orton's efficiency and potency as a passer (yardage) improved as the season progressed so with EJ's games (which our coaches deprived Orton of) would have gotten him off to a great start with even better stats than what he already crushed. I honestly don't get the criticism of Orton or the conclusory statement that he doesn't deserve recognition as a fame-worthy candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is Tyrod Taylor worthy of Wall of Fame? ...and I already proved above that Orton's efficiency and potency as a passer (yardage) improved as the season progressed so with EJ's games (which our coaches deprived Orton of) would have gotten him off to a great start with even better stats than what he already crushed. I honestly don't get the criticism of Orton or the conclusory statement that he doesn't deserve recognition as a fame-worthy candidate. Week 1 after being on the team for 3 days of practice he performs better than EJ? Marrone never cared for EJ and I believe he played Orton that absolute soonest he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This is one of those topics to breeze through because of the hilarious responses. 12 pages on a topic that really has no reason to exist other than to kick around some humorous banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yes. I say there's good reason to have him up there. * Name another Bills QB who had us on the brink of the playoffs in the last 12 years. * 12 games played for 3018 yards (extrapolate those numbers to a full 16 games and we're talking 4000 yards in a full season) * QBR of 87.8 * 15 rushes, 14 yards with a long of 10 yards in 12 games (extrapolate that to a full season and he would have easily had over 100) * 18 TD's and 10 INT's is a ratio of 2 to 1...extrapolate that over a full season and he would have had 24 TD's * Mental toughness and team leader * If we had him as a rookie in 2005 he probably would have surpassed Kelly (or come close) if you extrapolate his stats from 2014 over the course of nine NFL seasons. I'm not saying he is a lock to get a place on the stadium Wall of Fame, but the team should give full consideration to his credentials both as a player and team leader considering how he came in a led our team to its best record in a very long time. Someone spiked their coffee this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is Tyrod Taylor worthy of Wall of Fame? Week 1 after being on the team for 3 days of practice he performs better than EJ? Marrone never cared for EJ and I believe he played Orton that absolute soonest he could. I already answered this. When Tyrod throws for 4100 yards, 26 or so TD's, gets us a winning season and garners the support of a community as a leader both on and off the field, then yes - he will have the same qualities as KO and should go on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) I think his alcoholism embodied the Bills and their fans over the past 18 year playoff drought. If anyone should be put on the wall, it is that guy. He really was to Buffalo as Manziel was to Cleveland, an accurate representation of an era. Edited September 28, 2017 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think his alcoholism embodied the Bills and their fans over the past 18 year playoff drought. If anyone should be put on the wall, it is that guy. He really was to Buffalo as Manziel was to Cleveland, an accurate representation of an era. Mixers....pffffff drink it straight like a man Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Now this is a high quality troll ladies and gents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Can't believe this thread is still alive. Haven't read a post in this thread other than the OP. Do people really think Kyle Orton belongs on the wall of fame? Don't answer that, I won't be checking this thread again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Can't believe this thread is still alive. Haven't read a post in this thread other than the OP. Do people really think Kyle Orton belongs on the wall of fame? Don't answer that, I won't be checking this thread again Cool story. But not as cool as Kyle Ortons stache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 LMAO at some of these responses that aren't in on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 LMAO at some of these responses that aren't in on it. we've been bamboozled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think he may have to wait till they recognize Brian Moorman as a QB. Highest rated QB in Bills history, not his fault he was misused and definitely under utilized in the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 only if at his induction ceremony, he comes out with a bottle of jack and does some shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is this a serious question? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 only if at his induction ceremony, he comes out with a bottle of jack and does some shots What if he takes off all his clothes and screams "lets go streaking in the quad!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Mixers....pffffff drink it straight like a man Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 What if he takes off all his clothes and screams "lets go streaking in the quad!" He would need to have a bills helmet on at least for it to be acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is this a serious question? I hope not.The Wall of Fame is nothing to joke about. Neither is our only winning season in 15+ years. I guess some guys here don't recognize who made that possible. I would have left town too judging from the vitriole demonstrated in this thread for a guy who was nothing more than a professional doing his job...and he did it quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is that Anthony Jeselnik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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