Dragonborn10 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Colts are probably only a few weeks away from shutting down Luck for the year. Pagano should not have been brought back and the Colts will be in full rebuild mode by week 6 if they are not there already. TY Hilton has elite speed. He is under contract for three more years. $11 million in salary next year, 8 million this year. Would you trade a second in 2018 for TY this year to improve the WR group? A third and Mills, when Henderson is ready to come off suspension?? I wouldn't make a move yet but if they start 3-1 with no credible deep threat emerging, I would be tempted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 That move would seem to undo the Watkins trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 That move would seem to undo the Watkins trade. My exact thoughts. Can't see it happening with them valuing the 2nd round pick so highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Sure, if you can go 3-1, I would entertain that. But I think they're trying to get away from the strategy of bolting on players as a quick fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I'd do a 2nd for him yesterday. His contract is fine and he would add quite a bit. You would be getting Gaines and Hilton for Sammy. TY is a legit #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Colts are probably only a few weeks away from shutting down Luck for the year. Pagano should not have been brought back and the Colts will be in full rebuild mode by week 6 if they are not there already. TY Hilton has elite speed. He is under contract for three more years. $11 million in salary next year, 8 million this year. Would you trade a second in 2018 for TY this year to improve the WR group? A third and Mills, when Henderson is ready to come off suspension?? I wouldn't make a move yet but if they start 3-1 with no credible deep threat emerging, I would be tempted... Why are they trading him...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 TY was who I thought we were picking when we chose TJ Graham. If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Why are they trading him...? I'm thinking because they scorched us on the Kelvin Sheppard trade they are banking on lightning striking twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think our current WR depth chart is as good as it's going to get aside from any dumpster diving and swapping out PS guys throughout the year. I have to believe that WR will be among the top of offseason priorities and we'll draft at least one with one of our 4 picks in the 1st/2nd rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I'd absolutely trade a second for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I'd do a 2nd for him yesterday. His contract is fine and he would add quite a bit. You would be getting Gaines and Hilton for Sammy. TY is a legit #1.beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 They would want him next year with luck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 They have no interest in adding receivers. Not high priced elite ones. This is a running team. Assets will be invested into the run game not the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If you have Andrew luck you are never rebuilding. With a true franchise qb you are never more than two years away. See falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 TY was who I thought we were picking when we chose TJ Graham. If only... Should have been Russell Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If you are asking me would I rather have TY Hilton at $11m a year with 3 years left on his contract with his history of production than Sammy with one year left, with not the same level of production at what surely is going to command $15m + All day every day. I would trade a 2nd and a 4th for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Should have been Russell Wilson. They tweeted that they were taking a WR. I replied 'TY Hilton!'. Then I cried a little bit when the pick was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 They tweeted that they were taking a WR. I replied 'TY Hilton!'. Then I cried a little bit when the pick was announced. You're not a fan of the famous "Jump Catch"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) My exact thoughts. Can't see it happening with them valuing the 2nd round pick so highly. ...I'd hold pat with 6 picks in the first three rounds.....besides, I don't see Irsay (IF he took his meds...COUGH) letting it happen....Brissett needs somebody to throw to....Tolzien is now the Team Bus Driver...... Edited September 12, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) I don't think they'd look to trade TY. They have a bonfide franchise qb, doubt they'd look to trade him Edited September 12, 2017 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 TY was who I thought we were picking when we chose TJ Graham. If only... I thought we moved up for Russel Wilson. I was so happy then it turned to a wtf moment... TJ who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I thought we moved up for Russel Wilson. I was so happy then it turned to a wtf moment... TJ who? Make that Trevor who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think our current WR depth chart is as good as it's going to get aside from any dumpster diving and swapping out PS guys throughout the year. I have to believe that WR will be among the top of offseason priorities and we'll draft at least one with one of our 4 picks in the 1st/2nd rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 They've had elite speed guy for ages with Graham, Goodwin, Sammy, Harvin, evans... the tenth of a second margin in 40 yard dash time is way overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 This new regime is not paying elite money for any wr. Nor will they ever draft a 1st round wr again. Good wr's can easily be found in the 2nd or 3rd round. They'll make do with Matthews, Jones, Clay and dump offs to Shady. Maybe Reilly will get a chance down the road? If any big $$ is to be spent it will be on a franchise qb first then DT, LB or O-lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Beane said no big trades / FA Acquisitions, build through draft so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Beane said no big trades / FA Acquisitions, build through draft so no. But would you do it? He's easily worth a 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think our current WR depth chart is as good as it's going to get aside from any dumpster diving and swapping out PS guys throughout the year. I have to believe that WR will be among the top of offseason priorities and we'll draft at least one with one of our 4 picks in the 1st/2nd rounds. I dont think WR will be a priority under this regime. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 That move would seem to undo the Watkins trade.Not if the guy you are going to acquire has a better track record and longer term on their deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think the #1 priority for this new regime will be finding a Luke Keuchly type mlb to lead this defense for the next decade. I can see them giving priority to the lines as well. WR will be an after thought imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 OP YOUknow Luck didn't play last week. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 TY was who I thought we were picking when we chose TJ Graham. If only... Haha I wouldn't put it past Nix. That old bat probably got them confused. I thought for sure we were picking Russel Wilson there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 You're not a fan of the famous "Jump Catch"? thats so stupid, the catches the seahawks used to win their superbowl were often jump catches. so he dropped one, so did watkins, especially easy ones with little pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Not sure if they would if they think they will be competitive next year or the year after but I would absolutely make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 thats so stupid, the catches the seahawks used to win their superbowl were often jump catches. so he dropped one, so did watkins, especially easy ones with little pressure. Lighten up! Are you unaware that the typical NFL (or high school?) WR keeps running through the catch? That was a very real quirk. I don't think it was just one drop, and I don't think I was the only person who noticed. But thank you for your enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) I'm thinking because they scorched us on the Kelvin Sheppard trade they are banking on lightning striking twice. lol'd purty fine right there Son. This new regime is not paying elite money for any wr. Nor will they ever draft a 1st round wr again. Good wr's can easily be found in the 2nd or 3rd round. They'll make do with Matthews, Jones, Clay and dump offs to Shady. Maybe Reilly will get a chance down the road? If any big $$ is to be spent it will be on a franchise qb first then DT, LB or O-lineman. not ever is rather long time. I thinks it will be the cherry. build the standard hot fudge sundae first Not if the guy you are going to acquire has a better track record and longer term on their deal. point one for 17 thats so stupid, the catches the seahawks used to win their superbowl were often jump catches. so he dropped one, so did watkins, especially easy ones with little pressure. Tape junky/ie/ ette/er jommo 005s Me -252 Edited September 13, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Colts are probably only a few weeks away from shutting down Luck for the year. Pagano should not have been brought back and the Colts will be in full rebuild mode by week 6 if they are not there already. TY Hilton has elite speed. He is under contract for three more years. $11 million in salary next year, 8 million this year. Would you trade a second in 2018 for TY this year to improve the WR group? A third and Mills, when Henderson is ready to come off suspension?? I wouldn't make a move yet but if they start 3-1 with no credible deep threat emerging, I would be tempted... I was thinking more along the lines of AJ Green but I like the idea. The Bills need a deep threat and when you are only intending on playing 2 WR in most sets.......that guy really needs to be on the field all the time in those sets to set up play action etc... Putting a glorified KR or stone handed track star out there to try to get teams to back off makes you worse if the deep ball is taken away.........or if you throw it to them and can't complete it because of their lack of skill. If the Bills catch some breaks and start out 3-0 or 4-1.......and the Chiefs are playing well too..........they might come to a realization that they aren't getting to the top of the draft and try to swing a deal. Green has about the same base salaries.....a bit over $10M..........and he's better......but also older which makes it a bit more likely that a team going into a re-build would be willing to deal him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Colts are probably only a few weeks away from shutting down Luck for the year. Pagano should not have been brought back and the Colts will be in full rebuild mode by week 6 if they are not there already. TY Hilton has elite speed. He is under contract for three more years. $11 million in salary next year, 8 million this year. Would you trade a second in 2018 for TY this year to improve the WR group? A third and Mills, when Henderson is ready to come off suspension?? I wouldn't make a move yet but if they start 3-1 with no credible deep threat emerging, I would be tempted... For a 4rth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm thinking because they scorched us on the Kelvin Sheppard trade they are banking on lightning striking twice. Too bad they got rid of that GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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