ChanOverChin Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The Bills had $11.558M in cap space prior to today. Having cut S A. Williams the Bills will now have Williams' cap savings of $4.2M added to their total, which amounts to $15.758. That total includes the top 51 players of the 87 total currently on the roster. More cap space is always a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Can they pay my mortgage for me? I have a lot of bills due but I keep checking this forum instead of working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The Bills had $11.558M in cap space prior to today. Having cut S A. Williams the Bills will now have Williams' cap savings of $4.2M added to their total, which amounts to $15.758. That total includes the top 51 players of the 87 total currently on the roster. More cap space is always a good thing. No excuse for not signing Barnidge now -unless the FO doesn't care for him. Also a Safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Throw some more incentive $ at Barnidge. Honestly I don't think Barnidge has a chance to be a #1 TE, at this time. Maybe he is waiting for injuries to happen or to stay healthy himself. But as it stands now I could see him starting 25% of our games cause Clay will be out or questionable. Even with Clay I can see Barnidge meeting the 40 receptions, 350-400 yds, 5 TDs. I truly feel Barnidge may be equal too Clay. Clay is obviously better, but less dependable and never practices during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Can they pay my mortgage for me? I have a lot of bills due but I keep checking this forum instead of working LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Can they pay my mortgage for me? I have a lot of bills due but I keep checking this forum instead of working Trust me, there's a lot of people that wish you would work more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Having $15.758M is a significant amount of cap space to have at this point. The Bills need to be smart with it. It appears that they have the wherewithal to sign TE Barnidge, S Byrd, a CB, and a pass rusher if they so choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Having $15.758M is a significant amount of cap space to have at this point. The Bills need to be smart with it. It appears that they have the wherewithal to sign TE Barnidge, S Byrd, a CB, and a pass rusher if they so choose. This and there is also a couple of veteran WR's out there if they still feel the need to address the position. The cap space is a good amount for us, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Um no to Byrd. He's been horrible for three years and held out with that fake foot injury his final year. Barnidge would be a nice addition if at a reasonable price. I think overdorff is on notice to get these contracts right moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterlaw Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) So we could of easily afforded an extra couple of million for Mike Gillislee ! What a waste. Would be interested to know whether that was a Whaley decision or a McDermott decision. And an absolute NO to Byrd. Suspect his foot injury might flare up again. Edited June 2, 2017 by peterlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Um no to Byrd. He's been horrible for three years and held out with that fake foot injury his final year. Barnidge would be a nice addition if at a reasonable price. I think overdorff is on notice to get these contracts right moving forward. This This This. I perceive him as a low character type of guy with that whole foot episode. Edited June 2, 2017 by MarkyMannn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 i looked at Spotrac yesterday, saw the Willams $ #...the list didnt show the cap hits for Streater and Hodges yet... names were listed but no dollar amounts. Does the 15 million account for those two guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 So we could of easily afforded an extra couple of million for Mike Gillislee ! What a waste. Would be interested to know whether that was a Whaley decision or a McDermott decision. And an absolute NO to Byrd. Suspect his foot injury might flare up again. Whaley made no decisions this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Trust me, there's a lot of people that wish you would work more. and I want a Super Bowl championship in my lifetime but we can't all get what we want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The Bills had $11.558M in cap space prior to today. Having cut S A. Williams the Bills will now have Williams' cap savings of $4.2M added to their total, which amounts to $15.758. That total includes the top 51 players of the 87 total currently on the roster. More cap space is always a good thing. Doesn't sound like we have enough cap room to get all 87 under the limit. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Doesn't sound like we have enough cap room to get all 87 under the limit. Oh well. ok skurski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Whaley made no decisions this offseason. Whaley made all of the bad decisions and McDermott made all of the good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Spotrac updated to 12.3 mil available, not sure what the numbers are for JHodges and Streater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 does the approx 15 million (or the 12.3 million) allready account for this years draftee's pool? Would really like to get the TE and another safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 does the approx 15 million (or the 12.3 million) allready account for this years draftee's pool? Would really like to get the TE and another safety It does as all rookie deals have been signed. Milano, Peterman, Vallejo all currently fall outside the top 51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) No excuse for not signing Barnidge now -unless the FO doesn't care for him. Also a Safety. Free agent TE Gary Barnidge has spoken with the Broncos. That is in addition to the Bills, who he visited, and the Jaguars. It is somewhat surprising Barnidge has not been snapped up yet, but teams likely want to see what they have during OTAs before making any decisions. Barnidge told SiriusXM he "would love to be" the No. 1 guy, but he also has "no problem" mentoring younger players. May 30 - 11:14 AM Source: SiriusXM Edited June 2, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Seems so simple to get a safety and te...right now. Wonder if revis isn't fat? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 So we could of easily afforded an extra couple of million for Mike Gillislee ! What a waste. Would be interested to know whether that was a Whaley decision or a McDermott decision. And an absolute NO to Byrd. Suspect his foot injury might flare up again. NE overpaid for both Gillislee and Gilmore. They were good players, but not indispensible and not worth the money they got from NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 NE overpaid for both Gillislee and Gilmore. They were good players, but not indispensible and not worth the money they got from NE. I think the common thinking is that it hurts us more then it benefits them......which I understand. There is going to be times this year when we are going to miss Gilmore....I have no doubt of that.....overall the change to zone and better coaching might overcome it Mike G.? A good player for us.....people seem to dismiss that we have seemed to find an answer to that backup running back position every year....first it was Karlos Williams....then it was Mike G.......now we need another guy to step up but it is not unprecedented for that to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Now sign Barnidge and get a good young FA safety for cheap. Might still have a little left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Now sign Barnidge and get a good young FA safety for cheap. Might still have a little left over. That should be easy. Well, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 NE overpaid for both Gillislee and Gilmore. They were good players, but not indispensible and not worth the money they got from NE. Great move by NE. They only need to get slightly better and they are in another Super Bowl Bills need A LOT more help than those two can provide us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I think the common thinking is that it hurts us more then it benefits them......which I understand. There is going to be times this year when we are going to miss Gilmore....I have no doubt of that.....overall the change to zone and better coaching might overcome it Mike G.? A good player for us.....people seem to dismiss that we have seemed to find an answer to that backup running back position every year....first it was Karlos Williams....then it was Mike G.......now we need another guy to step up but it is not unprecedented for that to happen The way I see it is that when Karlos Williams was injured, Mike Gillislee came in and showed enough times that he was a reliable back-up RB. Last season we saw Gillislee show that he was a very good RB, but when Jonathan Williams would come in, we didn't see very much that was inspiring. Now we have ?'s at back-up RB. Williams could turn out to be fine, or maybe O'Neal and/or Tolbert will step up. My point is, there is a lot of uncertainty in this area. Whereas there wasn't when we had Gillislee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Sign Byrd and let him play FS in a soft zone. Retire a Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The way I see it is that when Karlos Williams was injured, Mike Gillislee came in and showed enough times that he was a reliable back-up RB. Last season we saw Gillislee show that he was a very good RB, but when Jonathan Williams would come in, we didn't see very much that was inspiring. Now we have ?'s at back-up RB. Williams could turn out to be fine, or maybe O'Neal and/or Tolbert will step up. My point is, there is a lot of uncertainty in this area. Whereas there wasn't when we had Gillislee. Mike G. veteran running back in the league Jon Williams.....rookie coming off of full year not playing due to injury? Do we not take this into account when making this comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 What does this news do to the conventional wisdom that we are in eternal camp jail and something, something, dysfunction, something, dumpster fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Sign Byrd and let him play FS in a soft zone. Retire a Bill Noooooooooo...bad attitude guy, laid down on the job his last year here. A low character guy....and slow of foot also....NEVER AGAIN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Mike G. veteran running back in the league Jon Williams.....rookie coming off of full year not playing due to injury? Do we not take this into account when making this comparison? Like I said, Williams could be just fine. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Like I said, Williams could be just fine. We'll have to wait and see. cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Mike G. veteran running back in the league Jon Williams.....rookie coming off of full year not playing due to injury? Do we not take this into account when making this comparison? The concerns are legitimate based on tape. Can we "project" on JWill? Sure. But you shouldn't expect that everyone is going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Pitta was a question mark to begin with, Ravens have other TEs to fill his spot. I do believe his career is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 No to signing Byrd. If we wanted a safety who could not stay on the field we could have just kept Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 No to signing Byrd. If we wanted a safety who could not stay on the field we could have just kept Williams. ....and if I remember correctly, he wanted "out" as bad as Peters and Lynch.....burning bridges can come back and bite you in the twin cheeks............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 For everyone ONLY THE TOP 51 HIGHEST PAID PLAYERS COUNT TOWARDS THE CAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 What does this news do to the conventional wisdom that we are in eternal camp jail and something, something, dysfunction, something, dumpster fire? This news means little. We didn't truly gain cap space, we gained cap flexibility. We could work our cap hits down to almost nothing this year and then just carry over the money to next year just the same. We still have to account for the same dollars eventually. But we have a little more flexibility this year if we need/want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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