Fan in Chicago Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2616828-peyton-manning-reportedly-wont-return-to-broncos-if-qb-continues-career?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Not a shock. It was brutal to watch Manning in the playoffs, and with the HGH and sexual harassment accusations looming this is the jumping off point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Well, more time to drink Budweisers and kiss Pappa John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Well, more time to drink Budweisers and kiss Pappa Johnso weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think he was on HGH. Look at the size of that guys forehead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I may be in the minority, but I really wouldn't want to pay Osweiler. I'd rather make sure to get Miller and Malik Jackson locked up, bring in a couple of guys like RG3 and Matt McGloin for peanuts and draft a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I may be in the minority, but I really wouldn't want to pay Osweiler. I'd rather make sure to get Miller and Malik Jackson locked up, bring in a couple of guys like RG3 and Matt McGloin for peanuts and draft a QB. Not a great draft to need a QB Â They would be stupid to let him walk. QBs dont grow on trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I may be in the minority, but I really wouldn't want to pay Osweiler. I'd rather make sure to get Miller and Malik Jackson locked up, bring in a couple of guys like RG3 and Matt McGloin for peanuts and draft a QB. Â Â Osweiler could have "won" that SB as well as Manning did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 QBs dont grow on trees  Neither do long snappers, coaches, punt catchers, towel boys, etc  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 they are in a pretty good place to win again. I mean manning was barely even keeping them in those games. Like someone said before they need to check out rg3 and see if he can hold it together and just rely on that defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Osweiler could have "won" that SB as well as Manning did. Â True. And any QB could have won that Seahawks SB 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Did Peyton pull a Dilfer? Â Oswieler looks like he has Rob Johnson written all over him. Edited February 16, 2016 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I presume they need Manning's salary to keep the defense together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Brock's sportcoat yea or nay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Â Â Osweiler could have "won" that SB as well as Manning did. I have always thought of Manning as a truely great QB ... in his prime. But yes, TT or any competent QB starter in the league could have won that game with the way that defense played in it. I can see bringing in some vet competition to challenge Osweiler, but honestly who could be that much better than him considering the cap restraints and the FA talent out there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Â Â Osweiler could have "won" that SB as well as Manning did. Jim Miller brought this up on Sirius XM the past several weeks and I agree with him and you. Â The fun part is Brock could be linked to the Rams. Living in the shadow of a SB victor/Hall of Famer, Brock may opt out of Denver and take the money in FA. Imagine if he stays in Denver and they fail to make the playoffs under Brock. Spoiled, the Broncos fans would revolt. Â Money will be tight and the Von Miller deal may leave the Denver Donkeys in a bind, leaving Brock to possibly be a top QB FA to take his money in a new location. Edited February 16, 2016 by KollegeStudnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Maybe we can get some value out of EJ by offering him to Broncos in trade . I read that he still hasn't been given a fair shot here;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I heard that the Broncos are smitten with senior bowl mvp Dak Prescott. Which I find interesting because many like to compare him to Tebow because their college stats are basically the same and they are "mobile" QB's. I think Denver will take him at the end of the 2nd if available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Brock's sportcoat yea or nay He has far too much Sanchez in his look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I may be in the minority, but I really wouldn't want to pay Osweiler. I'd rather make sure to get Miller and Malik Jackson locked up, bring in a couple of guys like RG3 and Matt McGloin for peanuts and draft a QB. Â If the choice ends up being between Von and Osweiler that's easy. Von all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Â True. And any QB could have won that Seahawks SB 2 years ago. Â Except Manning. Â Here's Manning's career SB line: 3 TD 5 INT 250 YPG (That's 4 games...) Â Â Wilson: 4 TD 1 INT 226 YPG (That's in his first 3 years) Jim Miller brought this up on Sirius XM the past several weeks and I agree with him and you. Â The fun part is Brock could be linked to the Rams. Living in the shadow of a SB victor/Hall of Famer, Brock may opt out of Denver and take the money in FA. Imagine if he stays in Denver and they fail to make the playoffs under Brock. Spoiled, the Broncos fans would revolt. Â Money will be tight and the Von Miller deal may leave the Denver Donkeys in a bind, leaving Brock to possibly be a top QB FA to take his money in a new location. Â Â Imagine if they let Osweiler, who kept them in playoff contention (as opposed to Manning) this season, walk away and bring in....who (RG3???)?....and don't make the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016  Except Manning.  Here's Manning's career SB line: 3 TD 5 INT 250 YPG (That's 4 games...)   Wilson: 4 TD 1 INT 226 YPG (That's in his first 3 years)  Imagine if they let Osweiler, who kept them in playoff contention (as opposed to Manning) this season, walk away and bring in....who (RG3???)?....and don't make the playoffs  No, even Manning could have won that SB.  And Manning's done to be sure, but Osweiler didn't look all that great either and most people know it was the defense that carried that team. It all depends on his contract demands, but anything north of $11M/year and it's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016  Except Manning.  Here's Manning's career SB line: 3 TD 5 INT 250 YPG (That's 4 games...)   Wilson: 4 TD 1 INT 226 YPG (That's in his first 3 years)   Imagine if they let Osweiler, who kept them in playoff contention (as opposed to Manning) this season, walk away and bring in....who (RG3???)?....and don't make the playoffs   Honestly, you know who would work in Denver with that great defense and that thin air?  ...Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Osweiler is not good. Denver could probably draft Cook or Hackenberg and have them starting on day 1. Â Kubiak knows how to handle QB development, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Â Â Honestly, you know who would work in Denver with that great defense and that thin air? Â ...Fitz. Â I take back what I said about any QB being able to win that SB. Â Osweiler is not good. Denver could probably draft Cook or Hackenberg and have them starting on day 1. Â Kubiak knows how to handle QB development, it seems. Â I'm curious to found out what Osweiler thinks he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 ​His are is shot. He had Hgh sent to his house , and now he has the Pesky little Sexual misconduct thing out there , I would think everyone is done with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Â No, even Manning could have won that SB. Â And Manning's done to be sure, but Osweiler didn't look all that great either and most people know it was the defense that carried that team. It all depends on his contract demands, but anything north of $11M/year and it's not worth it. Â If the teams switched QBs, that would be in serious doubt. Â Manning and Co. made it to the SB in no small measure because a guy who had missed a single PAT in his entire career (that's 502/503) missed one in the AFCC game. Â "The Os" probably will settle for 11 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Â Â Honestly, you know who would work in Denver with that great defense and that thin air? Â ...Fitz. Â I second this emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Â Â Honestly, you know who would work in Denver with that great defense and that thin air? Â ...Fitz. He's on pace to accomplish several jourenyman records... -most interceptions thrown to former teams - he's one jersey away from the Chris chandler award - IR on record number of teams - most well traveled NFL beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 He's on pace to accomplish several jourenyman records...  - most well traveled NFL beard  Does Jeff Garcia's wife currently hold this title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Elway wouldn't have soured on Manning if he still had velocity on his passes. Think of Manning as a pitcher who can't throw his fastball anymore. He mainly wins with his head & gets people to ground out. Â Manning has a chance to play elsewhere the question is will he want to? For starters if I were him I'd want to play a few more seasons especially in Denver with that defense. Â Can Manning somehow find a way to get his arm back? That's a good question, the problem as I see it is usually a QB loses other elements of his game. Look at Brett Favre, once he lost his legs he was toast. Favre could probably still out throw 1/2 of the starters in the NFL. Amazingly Manning who has no sense of touch in his right hand since his spinal fusion came back and went to 2 Super Bowls in 4 seasons. Manning was told someday he may wake up and have the sense of feeling in his right fingers but to this day he does not. That's the amazing thing, the guy is playing with no sense of touch, it's amazing he has been able to break records sense coming back. Â As for the HGH who cares? Modern science should be able to help athletes extend their career if they chose. If it was proven HGH could prevent CTE would the NFL permit it's use? That's what I'm saying Manning was dealt a bad hand in terms of health since the age of 34 and has somehow managed to break nearly every NFL passing record. Â So if Manning comes back would anyone be surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 As for the HGH who cares? Modern science should be able to help athletes extend their career if they chose. If it was proven HGH could prevent CTE would the NFL permit it's use? That's what I'm saying Manning was dealt a bad hand in terms of health since the age of 34 and has somehow managed to break nearly every NFL passing record. Â More important if HGH contributed to CFE (it does at least casually allowing athletes to train more and get stronger allowing Defense Linemen to hit harder) would NFLPA clamp down on members using it? NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Â Does Jeff Garcia's wife currently hold this title? Â Â boom. sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I think he was on HGH. Look at the size of that guys forehead! It's bizarre how big his forehead is - like an alien. Some of it is receding hairline but still, it's crazy. It's like when you see Bruschi's huge HGH head, or Evander Holyfield's huge HGH jaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It's bizarre how big his forehead is - like an alien. Some of it is receding hairline but still, it's crazy. It's like when you see Bruschi's huge HGH head, or Evander Holyfield's huge HGH jaw What about David Boston's HGH FACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Not a great draft to need a QB Â They would be stupid to let him walk. QBs dont grow on trees They also don't last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016  So if Manning comes back would anyone be surprised?  If he just comes back and plays another season (presumably with another team)? No I wont be surprised  If he comes back and actually plays well with zip on his passes ? I will be shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Peyton's legacy is sealed and I don't think any team in the NFL would start him at this point. To really consider returning for another season would be absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016  If he just comes back and plays another season (presumably with another team)? No I wont be surprised  If he comes back and actually plays well with zip on his passes ? I will be shocked Manning still would get a shot. In analyzing the current landscape he has two options, go to a team that wants him, or wait for an injury (Tony Romo).  Manning is such a preparer I doubt he would choose the later.  Assuming Manning comes back he really has 2 good options and they were the teams that had the biggest QB issues last year: Cleveland & Houston.  If Manning objectively looks at both, there's no way in hell he doesn't choose Houston if given the option. Houston has the potential to have a dominant defense, in addition Houston has an indoor stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Â Â Osweiler could have "won" that SB as well as Manning did. I doubt it. Its Manning calling RUN play & pass play & O line protection audibles at the line and what not. Brock is not there yet experience wise, he as beig out played vs the Chargers while having the # 1 defense backing him up. His experience is wat made him start in the playoffs not his dying arm strength. Did you not see the other Denver playoff games? Manning was throwing pretty well in those. Lets not forget Carolina has a good secondary.But thats it. I hope Manning retires. perfect ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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