LA Grant Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Everyone thought this match-up was going to be the one that swung the game in the Bills favor — yet Brady didn't seem to face much pressure from the middle. What happened here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 He got paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Everyone thought this match-up was going to be the one that swung the game in the Bills favor yet Brady didn't seem to face much pressure from the middle. What happened here? Brady got the ball off quick and we were playing 10-15 yards off on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 On average, how many seconds elapsed before Brady threw the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) There were some plays when Brady took his time. When there was pressure, it didn't seem to come from the middle. Yes, Brady got the ball out quick, but we knew to expect that coming into the game — I thought interior pressure was going to be the answer. Edited September 20, 2015 by LA Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Brady got the ball off quick and we were playing 10-15 yards off on the outside. I was expecting them to start gambling and jumping those short passes, but it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 I was expecting them to start gambling and jumping those short passes, but it never happened. The group I watched with was wondering this too. Why were the corners not playing more aggressive in jumping routes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 LA Grant is right, there were some plays where Brady has a ridiculous amount of time. With that said, the ball was gone...hard to fault Dareus for not routinely wrecking havock but it is a HUGE problem when we pay somewhere around a quarter billion dollars for a DLine that doesn't matter and makes no difference in a game against the champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 On average, how many seconds elapsed before Brady threw the ball? This is the story. Brady got the ball out very quickly and the Bills' coverage was not good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) I was expecting them to start gambling and jumping those short passes, but it never happened. Me too but instead they stayed 10 yards off Edited September 20, 2015 by goldenboy81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I don't like this post, I'm having visions of Haynesworth. I know it's too soon. Just hope we don't see a different player now. It's happened time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 @TyDunne Dareus: "There’s not much you can do if the quarterback’s getting the ball out. Two seconds, 3 seconds, there’s nothing you can really do.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 @TyDunne Dareus: "There’s not much you can do if the quarterback’s getting the ball out. Two seconds, 3 seconds, there’s nothing you can really do.” So we will never be able to beat the Patriots then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Everyone thought this match-up was going to be the one that swung the game in the Bills favor — yet Brady didn't seem to face much pressure from the middle. What happened here? Whenever I hear about a Pats lineman out, rookie replacement, etc. I've stopped being excited. The guys they plug in NEVER give up sacks, EVER! Mr Big ****, er, Stuff was a non-factor today, as I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So we will never be able to beat the Patriots then... Not until they are more focused and learn to execute better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 @TyDunne Dareus: "There’s not much you can do if the quarterback’s getting the ball out. Two seconds, 3 seconds, there’s nothing you can really do.” Why didn't he admit that before Pegula paid him all that money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffMuff Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 3 rookie lineman against a $250 million D line. It was embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Mr. Big Deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So we will never be able to beat the Patriots then... Use coverage to slow down the release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 So we will never be able to beat the Patriots then... This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 All we need to know about today. 59 pass attempts, 2 sacks. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 This team isn't built to beat the Patriots. Rex had success with great defensive back and linebacker play on the Jets. Our best talent is on the line which as you saw today does not factor at all in a game vs the Pats Marcel is right. When the QB throws the ball in 2 seconds, there's nothing our $100 million men can do. We will never be a good match up vs the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 This team isn't built to beat the Patriots. Rex had success with great defensive back and linebacker play on the Jets. Our best talent is on the line which as you saw today does not factor at all in a game vs the Pats Marcel is right. When the QB throws the ball in 2 seconds, there's nothing our $100 million men can do. We will never be a good match up vs the Pats Giants did it with the D-line. Got to be more aggressive with coverage to allow the pressure to get home. Can't play off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I would think it would be easier to cover receivers, knowing that the ball was going to be coming out in under 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 So we will never be able to beat the Patriots then... Well, maybe; aren't the Bills 3-27 over the last 30 against them? Total domination and cheating has zero to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 So we will never be able to beat the Patriots then... don't hold your breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I would think it would be easier to cover receivers, knowing that the ball was going to be coming out in under 2 seconds. Yes, you would think. Plus, no threat of run game... I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Brady got the ball out fast and ran hurry up to tire our line and and not allow subs. It neutralized our front four's pressure. The onus was then on on rex/d-coordinator to adjust and they couldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I would think it would be easier to cover receivers, knowing that the ball was going to be coming out in under 2 seconds. Exactly. No idea what was going through the head of our defensive genius on the sidelines. This was reminiscent of those vanilla Wannstache gameplans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 This team isn't built to beat the Patriots. Rex had success with great defensive back and linebacker play on the Jets. Our best talent is on the line which as you saw today does not factor at all in a game vs the Pats Marcel is right. When the QB throws the ball in 2 seconds, there's nothing our $100 million men can do. We will never be a good match up vs the Pats You have to pressure Brady. He morphs into a Direct TV commercial when he gets pressured. Obviously it's not that simple to do, he is the hardest guy to pressure in football. That said I feel like we have the best set up to beat him. DL pressure allows for potential pressure with max coverage. The Bills sucked it up today based on a crap game plan that conceded 5-8 yard passes at will. We played New England's game and while I'm sure it isn't as easy as just saying "play press" we certainly needed to dictate more and force New England to play a different game in order to beat us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Our line is way overrated and over paid. Brady had no pressure. Our D is a sham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Our line is way overrated and over paid. Brady had no pressure. Our D is a sham I wouldn't call our offensive line expensive. Edited September 21, 2015 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 @TyDunne Dareus: "There’s not much you can do if the quarterback’s getting the ball out. Two seconds, 3 seconds, there’s nothing you can really do.” Regardless, there was absolutely no immediate push up the middle to at least distract Brady at all. And while in general it is true that most plays it was coming out quick, there were plenty of plays that Brady had plenty of time to complete longer passes. The point was, the interior Dline did absolutely nothing to disrupt any aspect of the pats offense, against rookie olinemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thankfully Carolina did us a favor by taking Newton at #1 so we didn't make the mistake of drafting him at #3. Those were some entertaining threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Giants did it with the D-line. Got to be more aggressive with coverage to allow the pressure to get home. Can't play off...Exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm calling BS on this. I thought Brady had plenty of time to sit back and throw the ball. Last week, Luck had to throw within a couple seconds, because of pressure but this week was different. The defense was VERY disappointing this week. @TyDunne Dareus: "There’s not much you can do if the quarterback’s getting the ball out. Two seconds, 3 seconds, there’s nothing you can really do.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I think the Bills need to mirror what the Giants did against the Pats* in those two Super Bowls. Line a big run stuffer up in the inside like Dareus but put a quick defensive end type next to him. Maybe line Mario up inside in the A or B gap while having Dareus patroling the other sides A or B gap. Then have Hughes going off the blind side and line another speed rusher on the other side. Just have one big run stuffer up the middle and then all speed to try and get to Brady as quickly as possible. The Giants had Tuck and JPP lined up on the inside with two other rushers along the edge and a big DT up the middle. I think you have to try and get to Brady as quickly as possible, even if you don't sack or hit him getting hands in his face and making it hard to step up in the pocket are also going to be disruptive for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Regardless, there was absolutely no immediate push up the middle to at least distract Brady at all. And while in general it is true that most plays it was coming out quick, there were plenty of plays that Brady had plenty of time to complete longer passes. The point was, the interior Dline did absolutely nothing to disrupt any aspect of the pats offense, against rookie olinemen I think this is right on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I expect a big time bounce back game from this DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I watched Dareus as closely as I could all game, and on the vast majority of plays he was way late on getting started after the snap. He had a very poor game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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