Storm Front Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I bet there will be other even more shocking revelations related to the Pats*** cheating once Brady and Belichik have retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The NFL quickly renewed their agreement with the Officials to give the Patriots the benefit of the doubt on every call (plus five random non benefit of the doubt calls of their choosing) for the next five years. Â Â Makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) The NFL is now neck deep in Patriot** poo covering up for them. At first it was all about "protecting the shield," but Belichick and Kraft figured out that they could do whatever they wanted and the NFL would have to sweep it all under the rug. After all what professional sports league would want it exposed that one of its best teams cheated their way to four titles? Can you imagine the sh!t storm if the truth ever came out? How many billions in sports bets would be called into question? Edited August 20, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Wasn't there another one where Pats coaches send signals to Brady's helmet DURING a play. Like "look left Gronk open". Brady turns and throws. Amazing how he always find receivers wide openThis was a good one, too. Four different teams complained that their headsets went out mysteriously in the middle of fourth quarter drives. Â http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/15/patriots-have-been-accused-of-tampering-with-communications-before/ Â When asked about it, Marvin Lewis just said, "Oh, yeah, that happened to me, too," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I faced this problem in a professional setting. There are very accurate devices team security can use to detect and find such bugs. If this problem is real, which I don't doubt, the suspecting team should do what it can to uncover it. Â If true and the bugs could be found, this could be a totally awesome way to turn it to the Pats* disadvantage. Record your coaches giving details of plays and plans - only make it completely misleading. That would be so sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The NFL is now neck deep in Patriot** poo covering up for them. At first it was all about "protecting the shield," but Belichick and Kraft figured out that they could do whatever they wanted and the NFL would have to sweep it all under the rug. After all what professional sports league would want it exposed that one of its best teams cheated their way to four titles? Can you imagine the **** storm if the truth ever came out? How many billions in sports bets would be called into question? The bets won't be called into question. It is sports entertainment and at this point it is getting closer to wwe than anything else. Â That said this is just like a cheating spouse. If you take them back you are giving them carte blanche to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 If true and the bugs could be found, this could be a totally awesome way to turn it to the Pats* disadvantage. Record your coaches giving details of plays and plans - only make it completely misleading. That would be so sweet. Â Pats fans would claim this was a sting operation conducted by the NFL and that it's obvious the Pats did nothing wrong. Which WEO will immediately and repeatedly support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Imagine the bugs in the visitors locker room. Â This team are perpetual cheaters. Â They should be banished to Los Angeles for eternity and all records scrubbed. Â Â Â Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Â If true and the bugs could be found, this could be a totally awesome way to turn it to the Pats* disadvantage. Record your coaches giving details of plays and plans - only make it completely misleading. That would be so sweet. it seems the obvious answer is once you "know it" you can play back at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 we seem to think we know, and weve never played against them  well wait, how do you want these players to respond to this survey? by their actual interactions, behind-closed-doors discussions pertaining to the Pats*** or to what they're reading from the media? because if it's the latter then the survey doesn't matter, and it makes the fact that they're NFL players moot. that stat matters because of their access, which I assume they are using when weighing in. and, if that's the case, actual experience playing the team/for the team and being in the league for a number of years matters. "we" seem to think so because we're huge homers and swim in confirmation bias at TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Â well wait, how do you want these players to respond to this survey? by their actual interactions, behind-closed-doors discussions pertaining to the Pats*** or to what they're reading from the media? because if it's the latter then the survey doesn't matter, and it makes the fact that they're NFL players moot. that stat matters because of their access, which I assume they are using when weighing in. and, if that's the case, actual experience playing the team/for the team and being in the league for a number of years matters. "we" seem to think so because we're huge homers and swim in confirmation bias at TBD. i think your giving way too much thought to 100 random players being asked "do you think the patriots cheated?" Â some will be rival teams that hate them, some will be guys that couldnt tell you what state the pats play in, some could even be patriots i suppose. take it with the same grain of salt you would any other nfl player survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 i think your giving way too much thought I think you're giving him and others way too much credit there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I had heard quotes from other teams that they always were careful at *Pats* in what was discussed pre game or halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 From now on the Bills should employ the "cone of silence" during half-time at Gillette, it's the Smart thing to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 They should start calling it Penn Gillette Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Yeah but only 42% of the players think they cheat! That's not even half! Â 98% of the other 58% were in middle school when they won their first three championships. So there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's really true. They are total scumbags and it's way more than gamesmanship and every team does it and all the other bull **** excuses. They cheat. Repeatedly. There are endless accusations. Dungy is not the kind of guy to bad mouth an organization for no reason. Maybe this really is the NFL saying enough is enough. Â I'm thinking that too. Dungy just doesn't do this. He's alway on the high road. It seemed really wanted to make this point about the Patriots. If he's speaking up, it should become a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Time to pound this team into the ground this year. Both times. Â exactly. we need to punish these punks on the field. Â they oughta just change their uniforms to all black and embrace the low-life villain image they've built for themselves. they're everyone's most hated team now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Teams should start talking about themselves cheating in the pats locker room to see what happens. They don't actually cheat but just talk about something....rex would be like...alright here's what we have from the wire tap I put in Belichicks office. Then see how long it takes the pats to leak something about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Boston never used to be much of a football town. Imagine the money Kraft has made from all of those successful teams and Super Bowl titles. Edited August 20, 2015 by Storm Front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) itll get swept under the rug with the mound of other stuff. Everyones just jealous. Dungy and Manning cant beat Brady so they are jealous. Everyone is haters. The NFL wants to destroy the Patriots. No proof without a reasonable doubt. Circumstantial. Just shut up and beat them on the field. Everybody does it. They would 'win anyways' etc... Edited August 20, 2015 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Surprised God didn't give Dungy the heads up on this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The biggest game that Manning can face the Patriots* in is the AFC Title Game. Â Manning 2 Brady 1 Â But yup, Manning just can't win the big ones, and can't beat the Patriots* when it matters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Y'all really need to read Spygate. This was all covered in there along with Brady's mic being left on and this bugging business and other stuff. Even includes analytics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I faced this problem in a professional setting. There are very accurate devices team security can use to detect and find such bugs. If this problem is real, which I don't doubt, the suspecting team should do what it can to uncover it. Lots can be done electronically to find this stuff, I also had a professional incident of this nature. The sweeper did the whole building, and my office was the only case where hardware was found. I wish I had had the stones to put out misinformation in this situation, but I just had it removed. Anyhow, with this allegation, the NFL better be sweeping all the visiting locker rooms every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) I'd like to know when the constant Pats** apologists are going to finally wake up and see this POS organization for what it is rather than defending the "genius" of Belichick. They're a lying, cheating, win-at-all-costs trash heap. Steal opponents' signals. Tape their practices. Bug their locker room. Deflate the footballs so your team doesn't fumble as much. Â At some point it ceases to be "sour grapes" from opposing fans... I agree completely, eball. Â I am so tired of this idea that if it is not indicated in the rules to be cheating or against the rules that it must be OK is a bunch garbage. Change the rules to mention only those things you are allowed to do (film analysis, hire/question former players and employees, etc.) and make everything else cheating. Edited August 20, 2015 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Damn, are we going to have to attach yet another asterisk to their name? How is that a surprise? Use 2 with 2 more in brackets untill it is proven fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I faced this problem in a professional setting. There are very accurate devices team security can use to detect and find such bugs. If this problem is real, which I don't doubt, the suspecting team should do what it can to uncover it. Yeah, but I'm sure Belichick wouldn't know anything about it, because, you know, he'd say that he didn't. Â #banishBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Â Especially since it would mean we did such a crappy job of it over the past 15 years. Â I would fully expect Marrone or Mularkey to mistakenly bug the home locker room, and think they were getting great intel. How is that a surprise? Use 2 with 2 more in brackets untill it is proven fact. Â Use none. They're superfluous. It's time to accept that "Patriots" is synonymous with "cheating," and asterisks are redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDogLuvsPB Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'd like to know when the constant Pats** apologists are going to finally wake up and see this POS organization for what it is rather than defending the "genius" of Belichick. They're a lying, cheating, win-at-all-costs trash heap. Steal opponents' signals. Tape their practices. Bug their locker room. Deflate the footballs so your team doesn't fumble as much. Â At some point it ceases to be "sour grapes" from opposing fans... I don't pay attention to this cr@p anymore. I've already asterisked everything they've done since Billicheat took over. NONE of their wins are legit in my eyes. It infuriates me all the more when Seattle choked last year. They had the win in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Â Use none. They're superfluous. It's time to accept that "Patriots" is synonymous with "cheating," and asterisks are redundant. Right. Although that has to be The New England Patriots. Â If you look it up it means... Â 1. a person who vigorously supports their team and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors entirely regardless of facts or overwhelming and abundantly clear evidence against them. synonyms: New England nationalist, New England loyalist; More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Cue up the "Dungy is just jealous" Pats** apologists. Â Same team over and over and over and over again. Â It starts at the top and I think Kraft is as shady as they come. Â Cue up the "Dungy is just jealous" of the Pats** apologists. Â GO BILLS!!! Kraft is John Travolta's character in Swordfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 You can also add to this the chatter that the Pats* were jamming their opponents radio communications during home games. A rotten cheating bunch of SOB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 You can also add to this the chatter that the Pats* were jamming their opponents radio communications during home games. A rotten cheating bunch of SOB's. Â "But it's not illegal! And Maxwell's equations prove they weren't! And they didn't get any advantage from it! And Goodell doesn't have the authority to punish them for it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) You can also add to this the chatter that the Pats* were jamming their opponents radio communications during home games. A rotten cheating bunch of SOB's.this is true as well - heard it straight from a FO exec with another team. They assign a staff member to sweep the place pre-game for potential crap about to be pulled every time they go to Gillette. They have never had a problem at any other stadium. Edited August 20, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 they do the same thing to other teams' locker rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterlaw Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It will be alleged that McNally planted the bugs in the Locker Room. There will be no direct evidence linking Belicheat to the bugs. Belicheat will be only "generally aware" of all the information obtained by the bugs. This information will have been passed to Belicheat by a person nicknamed "The Bugger" aka "The Deflator" via a Mobile device. The Mobile device will be accidentally destroyed. Kraft will defend his Head Coach and deny everything. The Bugger will not be available to give evidence. Belicheat will be proven innocent and McNally will receive another suspension from the Pats. The Pats win Super Bowl L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Considering Dungy has been out of the league for years, I do believe that this was also investigated as part of the Spygate scandal back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Waiting for the "everyone bugs locker rooms" excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Waiting for the "everyone bugs locker rooms" excuse. Â No...that comes 3rd. Remember, there are 3 stages to every Pats* cheating scandal, and they happen in this order: Â Stage 1: "We didn't do it" Stage 2: "If we did it, then it didn't give us any competitive advantage" Stage 3: "If we did it, and it gave us a competitive advantage, then everyone else was doing it too" Â We haven't even hit Stage 1 on this one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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