PlayoffsPlease Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I did not know this, obviously.....very enlightening. I'm glad I made my stupid opinion b/c it caused me to learn something new today ! If you compare Manuel's completion percentage on passes over the line of scrimmage he drops way down vs. the average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Could the Bills get a 6th rounder for EJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Could the Bills get a 6th rounder for EJ? Ah yes, the old Blaine Gabbert flip. I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Well if you recall correctly no one here said we shouldn't draft a QB in 2013. Oddly enough we did get the best QB that draft. Mike Glennon, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 FWIW, it's already a topic elsewhere outside of B-lo: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/14/9153931/ej-manuel-buffalo-bills-quarterback-tyrod-taylor-matt-cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 how does a joke thread spread like wildfire? 2 hours ago it was @ 3 pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I guess the question is, why wouldn't a Bills fan be "pro EJ?" He's young, he's a good kid, hard worker, has great physical tools and a ceiling that's pretty high. Sure, he hasn't put it all together yet (and my never) but he sounds like a player all Bills fans should be behind. He's the last player that should cause a division between fans. no one is divided on the type of person he is. The division is strictly on his ability. EverystinkinBills fan wanted/wants EJ to be successful, but, there comes a time when you decide it's time to move on. That's the divide, the hangers on vs the movin on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I don't get the Bills FO dislike for the guy, but whatever. We will soon see what the Bills have at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I guess the question is, why wouldn't a Bills fan be "pro EJ?" He's young, he's a good kid, hard worker, has great physical tools and a ceiling that's pretty high. Sure, he hasn't put it all together yet (and my never) but he sounds like a player all Bills fans should be behind. He's the last player that should cause a division between fans. if he shows improvement + signs of being the answer, I think the vast majority of Bills fans would support him no doubt. But it doesn't matter how likeable and a nice guy he is if he keeps sh$#ing the bed on the field. Very, very few people in the fanbase have any use or time for that, especially considering the playoff drought. Actually, I think it's a smart move not starting him the 1st home pre-season game. This may be a different coaching staff, but last season's debacle against Tampa Bay where he was soundly booed off the field was embarrassing & I don't think too easily forgotten by the front office... you don't want to repeat that if he's not quite ready. Run him with the 3's and if he looks good, give him more work on the road with either the 2's or 1's next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 if he shows improvement + signs of being the answer, I think the vast majority of Bills fans would support him no doubt. But it doesn't matter how likeable and a nice guy he is if he keeps sh$#ing the bed on the field. Very, very few people in the fanbase have any use or time for that, especially considering the playoff drought. Actually, I think it's a smart move not starting him the 1st home pre-season game. This may be a different coaching staff, but last season's debacle against Tampa Bay where he was soundly booed off the field was embarrassing & I don't think too easily forgotten by the front office... you don't want to repeat that if he's not quite ready. Run him with the 3's and if he looks good, give him more work on the road with either the 2's or 1's next week.They played Tampa two years ago in Tampa. Whether he was booed of the field or not isn't my call since I wasn't in Tampa but get your facts right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 They played Tampa two years ago in Tampa. Whether he was booed of the field or not isn't my call since I wasn't in Tampa but get your facts right. 1st home pre-season game last year was against Tampa Bay. Here you go: http://www.amazon.co...y/dp/1576854949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 we're rating boos at a practice game now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Exactly- he's started and won NFL games.... Someone will think their own coaching magic is the missing secret sauce... And sometimes it works out that way. Won't be Jacksonville lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Ah yes, the old Blaine Gabbert flip. I think so. It's pathetic I know but that's his worth at best imo. Boy did we screw this up. They spend a 1st and maybe get back a 6th or 7th much like the Jags but that was even a bigger negative for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It's pathetic I know but that's his worth at best imo. Boy did we screw this up. They spend a 1st and maybe get back a 6th or 7th much like the Jags but that was even a bigger negative for them. Yeah, it's not like 5 out of 6 1st round QBs don't pan out. What a massive screw up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I too still think EJ starts game 1. He will start the next game. If they cut EJ then they should go after Cutler. It's not too late. Cassel can lose to the Colts and Cutler would have 2-3 weeks to get ready for the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 They played Tampa two years ago in Tampa. Whether he was booed of the field or not isn't my call since I wasn't in Tampa but get your facts right.if that was me I'd offer up an apology, but, what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 1st home pre-season game last year was against Tampa Bay. Here you go: http://www.amazon.co...y/dp/1576854949 Very,, Very, Well Done!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 EJ 1 TT 2. Meh on matty What a cannon on that Manuel!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Did you hold a private workout for EJ in your backyard last night? That is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 If they aren't playing they must be awesome.Damn, you beat me to it.I did not know this, obviously.....very enlightening. I'm glad I made my stupid opinion b/c it caused me to learn something new today ! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I think he recovered those two botched snaps like a true number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 EJ 1 TT 2. Meh on matty What a cannon on that Manuel!!! Losman-like.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Losman-like.... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Like I said. I wouldn't read too much into this, Tyrod will get the next start and Manuel will get start number 3 and starter will be figured out by week 4 of preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 1st home pre-season game last year was against Tampa Bay. Here you go: http://www.amazon.co...y/dp/1576854949 I was at the game and was one of the "boo-ers." I was booing the entire offense + coaching staff for looking so unprepared to play football afer having looked bad in the HOF game. Receivers that quit routes, slipped on the their breaks and an o-line that took three consecutive penalties are amongst my recollections. The offensive line that day was a sign of trouble to come. So for you to say that the crowd was booing just EJ is a bit presumptive. The 1st team o did start the second half and played well against whomever Tampa Bay was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Like I said. I wouldn't read too much into this, Tyrod will get the next start and Manuel will get start number 3 and starter will be figured out by week 4 of preseason. I strongly doubt it. Manuel got his start in the scrimmage. Whomever starts game 3 will be the guy the coaching staff is trying to get ready for the regular season. Preseason game #4 is for the bubble players to sort themselves out. In fact, if Manuel is still taking reps with the 3rd team this week you could make the case that the competition is already down to Cassel vs Taylor. Edited August 15, 2015 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninMyrtleBeach Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 EJ is a great kid, has good size, good work ethic and would be a good leader but his throws are off the mark. You can't teach him to be more accurate. He will have to improve that on his own. I like him but if he can't produce on a regular basis he won't be here much longer. I know he does have flashes of brilliance on occasion but they are too far and between. In my humble opinion (which I know doesn't mean squat) Tyrod is more valuable. He keeps the defense honest because he can run. Defenses are going to have to take it in to account and have somebody on him, and that might leave somebody else open. I wish EJ well and I hope he succeeds, just not against us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 EJ is a great kid, has good size, good work ethic and would be a good leader but his throws are off the mark. You can't teach him to be more accurate. He will have to improve that on his own. I like him but if he can't produce on a regular basis he won't be here much longer. I know he does have flashes of brilliance on occasion but they are too far and between. In my humble opinion (which I know doesn't mean squat) Tyrod is more valuable. He keeps the defense honest because he can run. Defenses are going to have to take it in to account and have somebody on him, and that might leave somebody else open. I wish EJ well and I hope he succeeds, just not against us! He's been making accurate, downfield throws in the blue/white game and last night. It might be a sign of some degree of improvement so there's that. I think back to the coaching search and how Whaley was reportedly talking up EJ and saying how the previous staff did him no favors. Rex is hired and says something to the effect that there was a "need to develop EJ." It's almost like buying into that was a condition of employment. Removing EJ from the competiton but keeping him on the roster would be consistent with that. Cutting him would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Ya know, if you take away that one pass, EJ would be 3 for 6 and 25 yards. I think it's pretty clear that it's time to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Like I said. I wouldn't read too much into this, Tyrod will get the next start and Manuel will get start number 3 and starter will be figured out by week 4 of preseason. No actually the media asked Rex last night if Tyrod starting next week meant that EJ starts game 3. He stammered a bit and decided that.....no.....it doesn't mean EJ will start game 3. Then after a couple moments of talking he remembered that EJ got the start in the scrimmage........so basically I think he's good on seeing EJ with the #1's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Ya know, if you take away that one pass, EJ would be 3 for 6 and 25 yards. I think it's pretty clear that it's time to cut him. Jeez, do that for the other two QBs. Cassel threw one pass over ten yards and if you take away Goodwin's run after catch what did Taylor have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Jeez, do that for the other two QBs. Cassel threw one pass over ten yards and if you take away Goodwin's run after catch what did Taylor have? TBD-INSANITY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 TBD-INSANITY!!! CUT THEM ALL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) CUT THEM ALL!!!! Now you're with it! Edited August 15, 2015 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Lunacy. Tyrod is gonna get his legs separated from his body with the way he plays. Meh is great for the 4-5 yard passing game. Ej's the only one with real NFL quarterback potential. Yea, he's gotta grasp the speed of the game, play calm and command the offense. You guys calling for those other two are simply out thinking yourselves. I said it last year and I'll say it again, our best chance at success is EJ playing to his potential. But take it for what it's worth, this is just the opinion of a guy that's been pretty focused on pro football only since like 1980. EJ will not be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Ya know, if you take away that one pass, EJ would be 3 for 6 and 25 yards. I think it's pretty clear that it's time to cut him.And if you took away Taylor's legs, he's no different than Cassel. These guys are bums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Serious question to the people who think Manuel is going to be cut ... his contract is 100% guaranteed, what incentive is there for the Bills to cut him? Edited August 15, 2015 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Serious question to the people who think Manuel is going to be cut ... his contract is 100% guaranteed, what incentive is there for the Bills to cut him? He's so bad that he's an embarrassment to the Bills, and he smells bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He's so bad that he's an embarrassment to the Bills, and he smells bad.And because something about when he was the qb at FSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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