iccrewman112 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Old Coot said: Why would the Panthers trade to jump ahead of the Bills? Presumably they were afraid the Bills would take their guy Legette. To prevent from the bills trading to another team. also Legette is considered raw so having the 5th year option may be desirable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, LEBills said: Franklin is better than any WR that went after pick 9 imo Umm, no. Beyond bad combine and I just don't see adequate separation. NFL CBs will jam him and push him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Process said: Still very much alive. I'm waiting until we pick tomorrow before getting too worked up. I'm not worked up at all. The only wrong thing the Bills could do tonight was draft a non-WR, although that nightmare is unfortunately still a possibility. As long as we still draft a WR at #33, we made the best possible move for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what? That’s such a lame point anymore. Players hardly play under the fifth year option anymore. Usually get extended before that 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You are aware that there are plenty of sites that’ll show you the best available, right? And you are aware that those sites are incredibly inaccurate, right? Please see tonight for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Theres literally no player taken in the first I thought Buffalo would take. What a great draft so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 50/50 trade for Aiyuk tomorrow.. post 49ers taking RP at 31. This makes lot more sense then BB losing his mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 18 minutes ago, Virgil said: We spent a lot of time with DeJean, Franklin and Walker pre-draft. I think tomorrow, we either go DeJean and Walker, or Franklin and ?? McConkey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Aurelius said: Frankly I think Adonai Mitchell is probably the guy we wanted since Thomas went off the board. When we found out other teams would trade up and weren’t gonna take Mitchell, we agreed to trade down. We aren’t in the market for a small wide receiver like either of the Xavier’s, which were the only two off the board since we could have drafted potentially. Mitchell is 6’4”+ and 4.3 nastiness. Another megatron type but faster. We lost nothing by trading down, only gained more and better picks. I bet we go with Adonai tomorrow with first pick and we significantly bolstered our draft position by drafting down twice. Bottom line is we don’t trade down if our guy at any position is there. If he isn’t and we can still get him lower, then it’s money for us. I don't know how much time they spent with him pre-draft. They met with Franklin multiple times. Also met with McConkey. Tonight was puzzling, but Beane has earned the benefit of the doubt. I don't doubt that he has a plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The McDonkey dude isn't a difference-maker though. If he's the pick, we still need serious help at WR. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Old Coot said: Going for quantity (picks) over quality? I think they are repositioning their picks to be more valuable to move up from 60 which I think a lot of people agree is a dead zone for the Bills and their needs. Between the 3 trades they moved down 5 picks so far and gained 128 spots. That is significant when talking about moving around the board in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I think its very possible the Bills field calls all night and move the 33rd pick as well. That pick is very valuable to sit on for 20 hours and field phone calls for. Might be able to get a premium for it. For Instance Buffalo and Green Bay makes a lot of sense tomorrow. Buffalo trades 33 and 163 and receives 41 and 88. Its obvious the Bills have a group of WR's clumped together. That would leave 8 picks between us and 41 with McConkey, Mitchell, Franklin & Coleman still on the board. Is it possible all 4 go sure but its highly unlikely and I have to believe Green Bay would want either DeJean or Newton which are big needs for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: The trade with Carolina is a no brainer for many reasons. 1. You confirm with Carolina the player they are moving up to select is not the player you want. If it is then you don’t make the trade. 2. you move up about 60 spots from late 6th to high 5th. That is the 125 ranked player vs the 185. 3. the newly acquired high 5th rounder is a much more valuable trade chip to improve 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders. 4. The first pick in the 2nd round is often a highly traded pick as teams reevaluate their boards (since moving to the 3 day format), giving more trade down opportunities. Not sure how you get 125th ranked player. The fifth round pick they got is pick 141. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I think there is almost no chance the Bills actually make a selection at #33. Fully plan on seeing Beane trade back once again and pick up an additional pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I’d guess 75% this pick is either auctioned off or we trade for JJ / Metcalf / Aiyuk / Higgins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I think he is not our board. I say Franklin/McConkey/Coleman or DeJean. And than trade up a little bit in 2nd and 3rd to find some other starters. I think it’s MCConkey and Coleman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 Just now, HappyDays said: I'm not worked up at all. The only wrong thing the Bills could do tonight was draft a non-WR, although that nightmare is unfortunately still a possibility. As long as we still draft a WR at #33, we made the best possible move for sure. Yup, exactly the point I was making in the OP. As long we go WR with the pick, we are good. Let's say the Bills like Mitchell, and took him at 28. Then it's extremely likely KC still gets Worthy, and Carolina still gets Leggette. So same exact outcome, except we don't get all the value we got from the trades. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) I think we might trade down again. Gut instinct is Beane wants two 2nd round picks to go WR/WR bang, bang, then spend another pick in the late 2nd early 3rd on safety. Edited April 26 by Rigotz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I’m not mad about trading down but to trade with KC and not make them pay extra is beyond ridiculous! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: Maybe we can trade #33 to KC for a box of crackers. If one of them is Thuney or Humphrey I’d consider it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budkin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I’ve calmed down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: To prevent from the bills trading to another team. also Legette is considered raw so having the 5th year option may be desirable. He's already 23, was a 5th year Senior, and is raw. That should concern people. He will be 28 after his rookie deal and that makes signing a second contract difficult because the decline for WRs is pretty much a certainty past 30-31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d guess 75% this pick is either auctioned off or we trade for JJ / Metcalf / Aiyuk / Higgins Maybe the Chiefs will trade us Kadarius Toney??? 😃😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: That’s such a lame point anymore. Players hardly play under the fifth year option anymore. Usually get extended before that And if they don’t sign an extension before the 5th, the team isn’t interested in doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, strive_for_five_guy said: Maybe the Chiefs will trade us Kadarius Toney??? 😃😃 hahahahahahahhahaHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what? I think the 5th option is more important for qbs as it gives significant savings in the option year. For other positions, the 5th year option price is often pretty high and not much of a savings at all. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what? Not the be all, end all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffblue Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The dream is still very much alive. Draft two of these WRs in R2, likely with a medium trade up from #60: Coleman Franklin Mitchell McConkey Polk BPA at #95, perhaps with a small trade up to get a true 3rd round graded player. To me this would be acceptable but hardly a dream scenario. McConkey is the only sure thing of those five and he has a relatively low ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Beane has already shown his hand of his plan for this years draft and that is to collect more picks and to upgrade the later round picks he already had. Having the #33 pick, which is traditionally always a very very sought after pick, as the first pick of round 2, I would be utterly amazed that his plan isn’t to trade back from #33 as well and continue adding picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepPass Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 This team needs so many starting players that they need quick solutions and they come in the later rounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: I’m not mad about trading down but to trade with KC and not make them pay extra is beyond ridiculous! They paid pretty well, getting a 3rd back this year is big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what? Beane's pry thinking teams now have 18 hours to see if they want to trade with us. Love having the first pick of the 2nd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 14 minutes ago, RiotAct said: McDermott is going to be rubbing his hands together gleefully all night!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 14 minutes ago, LEBills said: Franklin is better than any WR that went after pick 9 imo Umm, no. Beyond bad combine and I just don't see adequate separation. NFL CBs will jam him and push him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d guess 75% this pick is either auctioned off or we trade for JJ / Metcalf / Aiyuk / Higgins Or Samuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The only reason people are upset is they assume KC knows better. But their WR draft investments have been meh overall. Rice looks like a good pick but it turns out he's a massive idiot. Moore and Toney and Hardman were straight up bad draft investments. If Worthy becomes a star this turns out to be an all time stupid move by Beane but let's wait and see how it turns out. And I say this as someone that would have been happy picking Worthy in the 1st, but his flaws are real and it's possible he doesn't ever come close to reaching his potential. 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Well, here's an idea. Let's trade down 3 or 4 more times and get every pick in the 5th round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 27 minutes ago, Lost said: Mitchell is probably the only way to salvage this nightmare of a draft at this point. Holy ***** this is epic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Truth be told, people get hung up on drafting the highest pick etc. Having a low first rounder is ripe for trade downs and can get HUGE value to move up draft spots all over. Frankly it has more trade value than trading talented roster guys. We didn’t give up anybody thus far that we wanted (and was available to us), which I think is the overall point. I think we did great by trading down and thought it was likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: Maybe we can trade #33 to KC for a box of crackers. IDK They got Worthy, we are already toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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