Legette vs. McConkey

[H2o]

I would take Legette. Go back and watch the college highlights of AJ Brown. They are VERY similar in size and style of play. I would say that Legette is probably faster in the open field though. McConkey reminds me of a taller Beasley. Even though I think McConkey will be solid for what he does, a possession guy who gets you 4 or 5 grabs a game for 50-60 yards, I see Legette as the game-breaker type of WR this offense truly needs. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Would we draft this guy?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 23 by Buffalo_Stampede

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:

I like Troy Franklin better than Legette or McConkey.

 

Franklin can be the true deep threat that we've lacked since John Brown left.

McConkey ran a slightly faster 40 than Franklin did.  I like McConkey much better than Franklin.  I agree, though, that Bills really appear interested in Franklin.  I just think Franklin would be a suboptimal pick at 28.

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

Hopefully a small trade back and we draft both of them in the 2nd round. 

Neither will make it to rd 2 if Buffalo passes. Ladd, whom may go before Buffalo picks anyway, would likely be drafted by KC (think about that for a second), and all indications are CAR will take Legette at 33.  I would take Ladd at 28 and try to get Baker, Rice, Polk or that Rice receiver (brother of the great SF RB)

[GerstAusGosheim]

What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy.

[DapperCam]

These sound like made up football players for a comedy sketch.

[Brandon]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Would we draft this guy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

At a basic level,  it's an interesting comparison.  Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave are also interesting RAS score comparisons for McConkey.   Lots of similarities,  though I'd never try to argue that they're the same guy.  

Edited April 23 by Brandon

[DrDawkinstein]

What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Brandon said:

 

At a basic level,  it's an interesting comparison.  Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave are also interesting RAS score comparisons.   Lots of similarities,  though I'd never try to argue that they're the same guy.  

No. I actually see a lot of Diggs in a mid round guy though. Jamari Thrash!

[JohnBonhamRocks]

What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy.

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

No. I actually see a lot of Diggs in a mid round guy though. Jamari Thrash!

 

I know Thrash was considered a mid round sleeper a few months back.  Don't hear much about him anymore.  Admittedly,  I've only given a very brief glance to watching him play. 

[947]

I prefer to look at by which 2 WRs we'd end up with if we took McConkey or Leggette at #28.

 

Which pair would you rather have:

 

A) McConkey & Brendan Rice

 

B) Leggette & Tez Walker

 

It's A all day for me.

[No_Matter_What]

2 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

Curious - if you had to chose between Legette and McConkey at 28 -- who do you take?  

 

Personally I take McConkey (but I really like Legette too).  My thinking is -- McConkey is may be the best separator in the draft.  If a receiver can separate Josh will find him (as he found Beasly).  After Harrison and Odumze, other than Legette, there are not big-bodied X's I truly love.  I like Thomas, but I assume he is gone (and he is not really a size match-up problem).  I don't trust Mitchell or Franklin, do not like Coleman or Walker.  I would take McConkey and be sure to get Brendan Rice later.  While he has some limitations, all scouting reports seem to say that the 6'4" Rice has elite acceleration and can really take the top off.  Having an X that can do that would be great.  Shakir and McConkey can be really strong mixed through as the Z and slot.  Both of them can get deep as well.

 

Personally,  I would take McConkey, Defense at 60, move up from 128 to get Rice and spend the rest of my picks on defense (save maybe an IOL and very late RB (like pick 248)).

 

Thoughts?

Why didn't you make a poll? It's easy, I think you can still add it.

[Ralonzo]

42 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

It depends on what you want. Do you want another small slot guy or do you want a big strong blocking guy? Or do you get someone like AD Mitchell to play the Diggs role? I like McConkey but I think we already have some McConkey's on the team and we need a Gabe or Diggs replacement 

 Javon Baker is absolutely a Davis replacement. Same school, same game, same drops :O

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Hot take.

 

Javon Baker > Xavier Legette.

[CNYfan]

16 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

You can say that again!

Are you sure?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

I can’t wait until the nick name thread comes out if we draft LM.

 

Ladd “the Honkey” McConkey 

[GunnerBill]

Legette and I wouldn't take more than a nano second to make that decision. 

[Turbo44]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hot take.

 

Javon Baker > Xavier Legette.

I would not argue with this as a distinct possibility.

[Ralonzo]

9 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy.

 

 

[MarlinTheMagician]

51 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

It depends on what you want. Do you want another small slot guy or do you want a big strong blocking guy? Or do you get someone like AD Mitchell to play the Diggs role? I like McConkey but I think we already have some McConkey's on the team and we need a Gabe or Diggs replacement 

Unfortunately a Gabe replacement is a bag of balls.

13 minutes ago, 947 said:

I prefer to look at by which 2 WRs we'd end up with if we took McConkey or Leggette at #28.

 

Which pair would you rather have:

 

A) McConkey & Brendan Rice

 

B) Leggette & Tez Walker

 

It's A all day for me.

Me too.  Tez Walker and I bust my phone.

[Kaenon]

I am a fan of Legette.

Tbh, Ladd is the ONLY WR prospect of the top 10-12 guys I'd be disappointed in if we draft him. I just didn't see any elite traits that would propel him to be this team's #1 WR at all.

[MarlinTheMagician]

56 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

McConkey never had more then 40 catches and 750yds in college u sure u want him?

I rather do the same thing your proposing but take a Combo of Xaxier Leggette and Malik Washington. Much better combo in my opinion for same pks 

This would be equally fine with me!  If that's what the team thinks.  But I kind of hope they go with one of those two (McConkey or Legette) in round 1 and get the other in the combo in round 4 or even 5 (Malik Washington could last).

[GunnerBill]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hot take.

 

Javon Baker > Xavier Legette.

 

I like Javon a fair bit. I'm higher than the consensus on him too. But I wouldn't take him above Legette. Not. A. Chance. 

[BabyBills]

Unless we run exclusively 12-personnel, we need to prioritize a WR who can line up on the LOS and beat press coverage.  Unfortunately, I don't think McConkey or Legette are it.  If we want a McConkey-type (crisp route runner who can separate), I'm leaning toward Ricky Pearsall.  His win-rate vs. press coverage appears to be much better than that of McConkey, though still average.  That, and his presence would give us 3 WRs who could play each of the WR positions, even if none can play the X exceptionally well.

 

Javon Baker seems to be great against press, so he too could be the X.  I think he could be gone before we pick in round 2 though, and I'm not sure if he has the absolute talent to justify a round 1 selection.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:

I like Troy Franklin better than Legette or McConkey.

 

Franklin can be the true deep threat that we've lacked since John Brown   Gabe Davis left.

 

corrected for accuracy

[Chaos]

The reason to draft WRs or edge rusher early is to get players who can contribute immediately on their first contract. That is McConkey among these two. Honestly, I am hoping Jackson Powers-Johnson falls to 28 and we sure up the center position for a decade.  

[Einstein's Dog]

McConkey over Legette.  Legette doesn't have it upstairs.

 

I'm leaning Worthy over both though.  Worthy has elite speed (obviously) and has played the position for years.  He brings a skill set that could very well make defenses play us in a slightly different fashion that opens up the rest of the field.

 

[SirAndrew]

McConkey gets a lot of love on this forum, and rightfully so, but can someone please explain how he’d fit in with Shakir and Kincaid? I ask as a legitimate question I’d be interested in hearing feedback on. I don’t understand how we’d use him without taking away from those guys. McConkey as a Buffalo Bill makes no sense to me. 

[Nephilim17]

If we need a boundary receiver and McConkey, as great as he is, has short arms and doesn't have the size to play outside, what is the reason for adding yet another slot specialist to this team?

We have Shakir, Kincaid and Samuels with a lot of slot experience.

If McConkey can't be a viable outside guy, why even bother? Are you gonna rest Shakir to play McConkey? And if so, who is the other outside guy?

I know a lot of you think he can play outside but he's small with short arms and that does not bode well.

[NickelCity]

It's Legette for me, even though I like McConkey.

[MJS]

Legette. We already have a McConkey in Shakir.

[Sweats]

2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

McConkey gets a lot of love on this forum, and rightfully so, but can someone please explain how he’d fit in with Shakir and Kincaid? I ask as a legitimate question I’d be interested in hearing feedback on. I don’t understand how we’d use him without taking away from those guys. McConkey as a Buffalo Bill makes no sense to me. 

 

 

 

 

You are absolutely correct with your question, sir.......for i have also questioned the love of McConkey on these boards for many months. His skillset is much like what we already have on the roster, so i couldn't possibly conceive how our FO would ever want him.

 

#wtfconfused

[Billl]

Legette is intriguing to me because he’s a converted QB.  Those guys tend to have an innate feel for getting open because they see the field the same way the QB does. Hines Ward, Julian Edelman, and Travis Kelce were/are always open, and I think having all been QBs played a part in that ability. 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

 

I think the production issue is valid and it's something the Bills would have to look into.  Is it more about McConkey or Georgia's offensive system?  Also,  were they limiting him to some degree since he had some nagging injuries?   I don't know. 

 

 

 

Agreed. I think some circumstances made it so, but I just don't think I see a first round player. At the same time, I think he is going to be very good so I am pretty conflicted honestly. 

[Brandon]

9 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

If we need a boundary receiver and McConkey, as great as he is, has short arms and doesn't have the size to play outside, what is the reason for adding yet another slot specialist to this team?

We have Shakir, Kincaid and Samuels with a lot of slot experience.

If McConkey can't be a viable outside guy, why even bother? Are you gonna rest Shakir to play McConkey? And if so, who is the other outside guy?

I know a lot of you think he can play outside but he's small with short arms and that does not bode well.

 

I'm just basing it on the guys they've brought in over the last few years,  either as signings,  trades or projected early picks.  There are a ton of them.  I've been wrong before,  but reading the tea leaves,  it looks pretty clear to me that they have a preference for speed,  separation and route running capability and are willing to sacrifice size.    

[DCOrange]

19 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

McConkey gets a lot of love on this forum, and rightfully so, but can someone please explain how he’d fit in with Shakir and Kincaid? I ask as a legitimate question I’d be interested in hearing feedback on. I don’t understand how we’d use him without taking away from those guys. McConkey as a Buffalo Bill makes no sense to me. 

I think the vision would be for him would be to play as both the Z and the slot depending on the situation. The trickier part is that’s probably the plan for Samuel. If we plan on rotating WRs a lot they can all play but we don’t have anyone that projects as an X right now besides Shorter who I am not willing to assume will ever make an impact for us. 

[DCOrange]

16 minutes ago, Billl said:

Legette is intriguing to me because he’s a converted QB.  Those guys tend to have an innate feel for getting open because they see the field the same way the QB does. Hines Ward, Julian Edelman, and Travis Kelce were/are always open, and I think having all been QBs played a part in that ability. 

He’s not really a converted QB. He filled in at QB for one year and was mostly just running wildcat. 
 

McConkey also played QB his senior year and threw for 20 TDs as well as 10 rushing. 
 

Luke McCaffrey and Isaiah Williams are legitimately converted QBs and Adonai Mitchell dabbled with it a little in high school as well. 

Edited April 23 by DCOrange

[MrEpsYtown]

55 minutes ago, BabyBills said:

Unless we run exclusively 12-personnel, we need to prioritize a WR who can line up on the LOS and beat press coverage.  Unfortunately, I don't think McConkey or Legette are it.  If we want a McConkey-type (crisp route runner who can separate), I'm leaning toward Ricky Pearsall.  His win-rate vs. press coverage appears to be much better than that of McConkey, though still average.  That, and his presence would give us 3 WRs who could play each of the WR positions, even if none can play the X exceptionally well.

 

Javon Baker seems to be great against press, so he too could be the X.  I think he could be gone before we pick in round 2 though, and I'm not sure if he has the absolute talent to justify a round 1 selection.

 

I actually like Pearsall more than I like McConkey, but I understand why McConkey is the higher-ranked prospect. He just seems more likely to make it. Pearsall's 3 cone and ridiculous explosion numbers make him pretty tempted. I still don't see a first-rounder in either. 

[Dillenger4]

7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I actually like Pearsall more than I like McConkey, but I understand why McConkey is the higher-ranked prospect. He just seems more likely to make it. Pearsall's 3 cone and ridiculous explosion numbers make him pretty tempted. I still don't see a first-rounder in either. 

I agree. I don't see a first rounder unless we are in top 12-15 picks - but we aren't. We are at 28. Beane goes Defense at 28 (DE or CB) and we get a WR in 3rd. Or, I see us going hard on D all draft and he adds a WR in FA after the draft.