section122 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) AD Mitchell won the v1.0 draft. Please note the trade back option. If you are a team interested in trading up please send @Virgil and @Alphadawg7 your trade proposal. If the player you want isn't listed in the poll please put their name in the post below and I will add them if their is enough interest. Poll will be pared down as needed. If the player you originally voted for has been removed, you can vote again. Here is the link for the draft as it is ongoing: Edited April 12 by section122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I voted Legette. McConkey and Worthy were also to be considered. A trade back getting 2 would be ideal. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 If Fautanu is available at 28, you sprint the card up to take him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 If @Virgilcan package those two Carolina picks in the 2nd for our third and first I think it is worth it. That 5th year option for Carolina is important, especially if you want a QB this year. The problem is there isn't a good QB for you... so... hmm. @Alphadawg7 the 1st for our first does not get us in the second. we need youth now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 This draft has gone similar to version 1 in the sense of what is left for the Bills. I think what this exercise has shown is that there is a better than average chance that receiver wise everyone but the top 3 and Thomas is available. The first vote was a Mitchell v Legette run off and I expect this to be the same. My BPA by my board however is Nate Wiggins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 Just now, boyst said: If @Virgilcan package those two Carolina picks in the 2nd for our third and first I think it is worth it. That 5th year option for Carolina is important, especially if you want a QB this year. The problem is there isn't a good QB for you... so... hmm. @Alphadawg7 the 1st for our first does not get us in the second. we need youth now. I think all 5 qbs going already really puts a damper on any trade back prospects. Maybe maybe someone trades up for an OT but there really aren't any players standing out on the board at a premium position. If someone does come up it likely would be for their choice of WR which I don't know the Bills should do. Also to get a 3rd back in comp, they would have to move pretty far back when you look at the trade chart as there isn't a natural partner where value is equal or better. I voted Worthy. Can anyone voting for AD Mitchell tell me why you want the less productive guy from the same team? It seems strange to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, section122 said: I think all 5 qbs going already really puts a damper on any trade back prospects. Maybe maybe someone trades up for an OT but there really aren't any players standing out on the board at a premium position. If someone does come up it likely would be for their choice of WR which I don't know the Bills should do. Also to get a 3rd back in comp, they would have to move pretty far back when you look at the trade chart as there isn't a natural partner where value is equal or better. I voted Worthy. Can anyone voting for AD Mitchell tell me why you want the less productive guy from the same team? It seems strange to me. All 5? Six QBs have gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Might as well just reduce this poll to Mitchell and Legette. That’s who I’m deciding between. 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This draft has gone similar to version 1 in the sense of what is left for the Bills. I think what this exercise has shown is that there is a better than average chance that receiver wise everyone but the top 3 and Thomas is available. The first vote was a Mitchell v Legette run off and I expect this to be the same. My BPA by my board however is Nate Wiggins. Haha. Just read this right after I posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) Tough call, I'm voting AD Mitchell again but Darius Robinson is hard to pass up since we have questions at DE/DT depth and long term answers. Yet I ultimately went with the best with Legette and hoping like the last mock a quality DT falls in Round 2. Edited April 12 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Mitchell vs Legette 2.0. I’d be happy with either guy. I like that Mitchell is 2.5 years younger. I like Legettes game overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: All 5? Six QBs have gone. Fat fingers lol. I will be surprised in the real draft if one of those guys isn't still sitting there however I didn't really hate any of the logic/fits for people and where they went so perhaps I will be wrong. I think the best chance the Bills have of a trade back is someone coveting a qb. Without that bait I don't see it. Also as I mentioned, I really don't see how the value lines up to get a 3rd back. If they do trade back, it will be for an additional 4th which maybe gets paired with 60 to trade back up but I'm not sure I just don't see a good trade back partner/scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, section122 said: Fat fingers lol. I will be surprised in the real draft if one of those guys isn't still sitting there however I didn't really hate any of the logic/fits for people and where they went so perhaps I will be wrong. I think the best chance the Bills have of a trade back is someone coveting a qb. Without that bait I don't see it. Also as I mentioned, I really don't see how the value lines up to get a 3rd back. If they do trade back, it will be for an additional 4th which maybe gets paired with 60 to trade back up but I'm not sure I just don't see a good trade back partner/scenario. Carolina and Washington for OTs is the other possibility. Because there is that run behind us - Baltimore, San Fran, KC who are all in the OT market. Really depends how many have gone and which ones are left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I am really coming around to McConkey. Allen often talks about how so much of his game is based on being on the same page with his receiver, almost by feel as opposed to rigid timing and routes. Of all the prospects, I can picture Allen maximizing that with McConkey compared to the others. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I said trade back, but if there's no reasonable offers to do so, I'd pick Leggette. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Ugh. AD Mitchell grosses me out. I just cannot get excited about him. I'd love for someone who's a big AD Mitchell fan to tell me why I'm wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I voted for Worthy due to what I think is a lack of elite speed if we were to wait till the second round to select a WR I'd love to do a small trade back and hope he's still there early second round, but I'm not chancing it. Take Worthy and get one of Legette, Coleman, or Franklin in the second by whatever means necessary 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Carolina and Washington for OTs is the other possibility. Because there is that run behind us - Baltimore, San Fran, KC who are all in the OT market. Really depends how many have gone and which ones are left. Washington I could see especially with their 1st round qb. 40 and 78 for 28 and 133 match pretty well point wise. Dropping 12 spots though would be worrying for me. I could see any of the Ravens, Panthers, Chargers, Patriots, and Titans taking a WR. Possibly even the Lions and then that cupboard is looking pretty bare. Carolina I think will be going WR to help out Young in any way possible. There are a few teams/picks I feel strong about and that is one of my strongest feelings. OT isn't splashy for Tepper and their receiving corps is terrible. Thielen is way past his prime (although he surprised me last year), I probably like Diontae Johnson more than most but his hands and attitude are certainly a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I like both Mitchell and Legette. I voted AD despite him being the somewhat riskier pick. Yeah he doesn’t come across as a process guy, but he’s the guy available that has the upside to be Josh’s primary receiver the rest of his career. Xavier was really more of a big rocked up underneath receiver who was super effective after the catch. Mitchell is more the guy that can take a top off the defense and create space for Shakir, Kincaid, and Samuel underneath. At the end of the day I’d be happy with either as they both bring a size speed element currently missing. I trust Beane to make the right choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 5 minutes ago, section122 said: Carolina I think will be going WR to help out Young in any way possible. There are a few teams/picks I feel strong about and that is one of my strongest feelings. OT isn't splashy for Tepper and their receiving corps is terrible. Thielen is way past his prime (although he surprised me last year), I probably like Diontae Johnson more than most but his hands and attitude are certainly a question. I think the best way to help Bryce out is to protect him. Ekwonu gave up 11 sacks last season. When your left tackle can't pass block anyone with any speed off the edge it doesn't matter who is playing receiver. But again it kinda depends who is on the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think the best way to help Bryce out is to protect him. Ekwonu gave up 11 sacks last season. When your left tackle can't pass block anyone with any speed off the edge it doesn't matter who is playing receiver. But again it kinda depends who is on the board. I 100% agree with you. I just think their owner values style over substance lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Mitchell is likely the best long term answer on that list. I'd prefer double dipping though, because I feel like hitting on WR this draft is absolutely critical to the long term success of the Bills. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 33 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said: I am really coming around to McConkey. Allen often talks about how so much of his game is based on being on the same page with his receiver, almost by feel as opposed to rigid timing and routes. Of all the prospects, I can picture Allen maximizing that with McConkey compared to the others. I just can't get excited about a route running specialist in the 1st round. Diggs was the best route runner in the NFL for three seasons. It was great in the regular season, but as we saw in the playoffs that skill set can be erased by physical DBs. The 1st round should be about physical traits. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 If the Visits list and the recent Tweets by ECB are to be believed... The Bills have done the most work (wide receiver wise) on McConkey, Worthy, Franklin, and Pearsall. I notice a common them there: lighter, faster guys and route technician types. Following in the footsteps of John Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, and Stefon Diggs. Just thought it was interesting, and y'all can take it with as big a grain of salt as you like. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I don’t think Mitchell will be there at 28 in the real thing just my opinion 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, section122 said: Fat fingers lol. I will be surprised in the real draft if one of those guys isn't still sitting there however I didn't really hate any of the logic/fits for people and where they went so perhaps I will be wrong. I think the best chance the Bills have of a trade back is someone coveting a qb. Without that bait I don't see it. Also as I mentioned, I really don't see how the value lines up to get a 3rd back. If they do trade back, it will be for an additional 4th which maybe gets paired with 60 to trade back up but I'm not sure I just don't see a good trade back partner/scenario. Someone is going to jump for JJ McCarthy. It's going to be hilarious. That noodle arm dweeb isn't the next bom trady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, boyst said: If @Virgilcan package those two Carolina picks in the 2nd for our third and first I think it is worth it. That 5th year option for Carolina is important, especially if you want a QB this year. The problem is there isn't a good QB for you... so... hmm. @Alphadawg7 the 1st for our first does not get us in the second. we need youth now. Wait, do the Bills have a 3rd this year? I thought we traded our 3rd for Rasul Douglas mid-season, and only got a 4th in comp for Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Wait, do the Bills have a 3rd this year? I thought we traded our 3rd for Rasul Douglas mid-season, and only got a 4th in comp for Edmunds. Correct, we do not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Legette if we stay put. I base that off whom I feel may be available at #28 and there strength and weakness profile. Sounds like Legette is a hand catcher and can climb the ladder to snag the catch which I think compliments Allen well. I though about Mitchell but his weaknesses seem like something I want to avoid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 From the short list, I think my order of preference would be: 1. Mitchell 2. Legette 3. Worthy 4. McConky But I could probably swap 3 & 4 depending on how the wind is blowing. I dont think Mitchell is available at 28 irl. Guess I'd be happy with any of the remaining 3, and even Franklin. Maybe not overly excited, but happy they at least addressed the WR position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I voted Legette. McConkey and Worthy were also to be considered. A trade back getting 2 would be ideal. no love for Mitchell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I like AD Mitchell, but since he won last time I voted Leggette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: From the short list, I think my order of preference would be: 1. Mitchell 2. Legette 3. Worthy 4. McConky But I could probably swap 3 & 4 depending on how the wind is blowing. I dont think Mitchell is available at 28 irl. Guess I'd be happy with any of the remaining 3, and even Franklin. Maybe not overly excited, but happy they at least addressed the WR position. the RAS is a facotr with Mitchell. I think that offers a lot. I would love a chance to trade down and still get Mitchell and then double dip with McConky. I think Mitchell is gone by 28 though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I voted Legette. McConkey and Worthy were also to be considered. A trade back getting 2 would be ideal. I agree. Would love a trade back a few spots take Legette with the first pick and then McConkey, Worthy or Tez Walker, whoever is available at #60 in that order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: no love for Mitchell? I think his ceiling is high. I think that his floor is too low for where he will be picked. I’ve said it before but he gives me George Pickens vibes in terms of effort. If I could get McConkey and Mitchell, sure. If the Bills go Mitchell they are going to HAVE to have someone that can handle a lot of targets immediately. You can’t have 2 low floor guys when you have 200ish targets available. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Mitchell says he takes plays off. That was enough for me to select Legette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Surprised so many like Legette. He’s not a #1 WR imo. He’s solid but more of a day 2 WR. AD Mitchell fits what we need or Franklin would be a Diggs type with more explosiveness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 If they’re going to turn 23 before January that’s not a round 1 guy for me. Mitchell. I’d take Legette or Ladd in RD 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Chuck Schick said: I am really coming around to McConkey. Allen often talks about how so much of his game is based on being on the same page with his receiver, almost by feel as opposed to rigid timing and routes. Of all the prospects, I can picture Allen maximizing that with McConkey compared to the others. Me too. I voted for the Ladd. He’s gonna be a good pro - right away! the consolation prizes aren’t far behind, if at all. Which flavor I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Trade back 5 picks and get a 3rd and then use the 3rd to trade up from 60 to around 35 and get 2 of those guys 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Trade back 5 picks and get a 3rd and then use the 3rd to trade up from 60 to around 35 and get 2 of those guys That’s what I’d do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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