eSJayDee Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So far we've signed no one & lost 2 players (Floyd, Davis) who signed pretty decent contracts. Trubisky & Morse don't count either way as they were released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Couple of 5ths 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Couple of 5ths Gabe falls into the 4th round category i believe Edited March 11 by CaptnCoke11 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Don’t bother we’ll be screwed over 3 5 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 SF will get it since they signed floyd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, eSJayDee said: So far we've signed no one & lost 2 players (Floyd, Davis) who signed pretty decent contracts. Trubisky & Morse don't count either way as they were released. In the shape we're in, I'd hope they aren't letting possible picks next year stop them from making acquisitions that can help the team now. We're not in a position roster wise to be focusing solely on mid round picks in a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: In the shape we're in, I'd hope they aren't letting possible picks next year stop them from making acquisitions that can help the team now. We're not in a position roster wise to be focusing solely on mid round picks in a year. I'm sure Beane wishes he had $30M in cap to spend, but he doesn't. The comp pick discussion is driven by that fact. If Beane sees a deal, he will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, eSJayDee said: So far we've signed no one & lost 2 players (Floyd, Davis) who signed pretty decent contracts. Trubisky & Morse don't count either way as they were released. Floyd doesn’t count. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Gabe falls into the 4th round category i believe We’ll see…as we know there are no guarantees They only gave out 3 4th rounds this year and Edmunds got more money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm sure Beane wishes he had $30M in cap to spend, but he doesn't. The comp pick discussion is driven by that fact. If Beane sees a deal, he will do it. I understand the position we're in and I'm not expecting anything big. Just to say that I would hope in the shape we're in with the roster that he wouldn't pass on something that we could do to improve the team now with eyes on the comp formula for next season. Especially with how we were done this year. Edited March 11 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 After getting screwed this year,to heck with comp picks. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Floyd doesn’t count. He does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I'm sick of this game. Just go about your business and let the chips fall where they may. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, FireChans said: Floyd doesn’t count. Why not? Because of the "void years"? https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2023/6/12/23758041/explaining-how-the-nfl-works-part-18-the-compensatory-formula-free-agents-draft-picks-steelers The first step is to determine if a player who signed with a new team is a CFA. First, they must be an unrestricted free agent and not a street free agent. Second, they could not be a player who potentially had more years under contract with the team. If there was a team option that was not exercised, or at any point in their contract a player renegotiated their deal for fewer years, they are not eligible to be a CFAs. If there are void years in a players contract, these do not preclude the player from being a CFA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Beane should have let AJE go as well 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He does. 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Why not? Because of the "void years"? https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2023/6/12/23758041/explaining-how-the-nfl-works-part-18-the-compensatory-formula-free-agents-draft-picks-steelers The first step is to determine if a player who signed with a new team is a CFA. First, they must be an unrestricted free agent and not a street free agent. Second, they could not be a player who potentially had more years under contract with the team. If there was a team option that was not exercised, or at any point in their contract a player renegotiated their deal for fewer years, they are not eligible to be a CFAs. If there are void years in a players contract, these do not preclude the player from being a CFA. I stand corrected. Cherish this moment. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 23 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Gabe falls into the 4th round category i believe Which means the Bills will get a 7th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: I stand corrected. Cherish this moment. Late round comp picks are nice, like finding out your AARP card actually gets you a discount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Should be a 4th(Davis) & 5th(Floyd). But you're right when you adjust for Goodell screwing us, they'll both be 7th rounders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Comp picks are fake. Don't count on them. They reviewed this year's again & still kept us & SF at 4th round but gave Cincy a 3rd round. Totally not worth it. No one seems to really understand the supposed "formula", Beane & the experts said it would be a 3rd & planned accordingly. We'll give up talent & end up with a 7th next year. Until they fix it so the process is transparent & everyone can understand it & know what they'll actually get, it's about as real as the Easter bunny and as reliable as Nathan Peterman in the 1st half of a Bills game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Picks after the 3rd round have proven to be golden for this team there was a chart last year that said Beane was one of the best drafters after the third round in the league I think only San Fran was better. So any comp picks I will gladly take despite it most likely not being a 3rd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 51 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Comp picks are fake. Don't count on them. They reviewed this year's again & still kept us & SF at 4th round but gave Cincy a 3rd round. Totally not worth it. No one seems to really understand the supposed "formula", Beane & the experts said it would be a 3rd & planned accordingly. We'll give up talent & end up with a 7th next year. Until they fix it so the process is transparent & everyone can understand it & know what they'll actually get, it's about as real as the Easter bunny and as reliable as Nathan Peterman in the 1st half of a Bills game. "This is something I don't understand, so I'm going to say it's a hoax!" The new normal. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, Rigotz said: "This is something I don't understand, so I'm going to say it's a hoax!" The new normal. Brandon Beane doesn't understand it. Clearly planned to have a 3rd when he traded for Douglas. Every NFL analyst doesn't understand it, said it would be a 3rd. No one understands it except the handful of people who decided it was a 4th. & That's exactly my point. There's not enough transparency so everyone understands how it works. & Without that info you're making decisions based on guesses, which is not a good or reliable plan. It's a plan based on an assumption that may not come true, thus a hoax... Don't worry I'm just bitter that it appears arbitrary when no one is allowed to know how it works. For all you or I or Beane or anyone else knows this is how they decide: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 18 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Couple of 5ths and a third to the Patriots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 18 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 18 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Don’t bother we’ll be screwed over Don’t bother we’ll be screwed over Like we have been this year? The league adjusts their picks to a third for Cincinnati even though Tremaine Edmonds signed for more money then the guy Cincy lost!! How does this make any sense? Pegula needs to call the league and demand the third that they are owed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 18 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: After getting screwed this year,to heck with comp picks. Yup, whatever pick we're supposed to get, Roger will make sure it's one round later. It's his mission statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Whom else could be signed elsewhere and give us comp picks? Off the top of my head, Hyde, Dane Jackson, Dodson, Poona ford, that other DT we signed, Sherfield, maybe more? none of these would bring much but still could bring something. A 7th could turn into a Dane Jackson type or a punter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, boyst said: https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks A 4th and a 5th , that turns into a 5th and a 6th or something like that based on the HOAX! Still waiting to see where the dart lands..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 After the NFL screwed us with the 3rd, I really don’t care about comp picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Kwai San said: A 4th and a 5th , that turns into a 5th and a 6th or something like that based on the HOAX! Still waiting to see where the dart lands..... that's because the Broncos signed a new quality assistant onside kick coach who is an ambidextrous french canadian with they/them pronouns that will cause the former team he worked on (Jets) to get a 2nd round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 21 minutes ago, boyst said: https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks As usual the Ravens are going to crush it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 43 minutes ago, boyst said: https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks Great... Thank you for this... People are still able to get a pick for Ronald Darby... Dang! I know this is not concrete because it also depends on the net loss from player signed by another team and a player that you signed. DO they have this chart for the compensatory picks for this year and what player each team lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted Tuesday at 09:08 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:08 PM Sort of random observation but today there has been a big shift in OTC data. Mack Hollins, who was previously way below the threshold, is now listed exactly as cutoff player at 670 (I am not sure, but he was listed as something like 710th or so before). This results in Bills losing 5th round pick for Floyd, and leave us with 4th round for Gabe Davis only. I know that after Tremaine debacle these unofficial sources need to be taken with a grain of salt, but I still find it interesting. Hopefully once all is said and done Hollins will fall under the line and we'll get 4th and 5th. https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted Tuesday at 09:37 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:37 PM On 3/11/2024 at 6:49 PM, Donuts and Doritos said: Comp picks are fake. Don't count on them. They reviewed this year's again & still kept us & SF at 4th round but gave Cincy a 3rd round. Totally not worth it. No one seems to really understand the supposed "formula", Beane & the experts said it would be a 3rd & planned accordingly. We'll give up talent & end up with a 7th next year. Until they fix it so the process is transparent & everyone can understand it & know what they'll actually get, it's about as real as the Easter bunny and as reliable as Nathan Peterman in the 1st half of a Bills game. it’s one of the first times in years there’s been a discrepancy in predicting them and it was 2 guys by 1 round. while imperfect it’s still about 98% forecastable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted Tuesday at 09:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:41 PM Ugghhh....Mack Hollins $2.6M contract (7th rd compensatory....barely) wipes out Floyd's $10M, 5th rd loss? Something seriously wrong with that..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM 8 minutes ago, bourbonboy said: Ugghhh....Mack Hollins $2.6M contract (7th rd compensatory....barely) wipes out Floyd's $10M, 5th rd loss? Something seriously wrong with that..... 🤬 Gabe Davis barely hanging on to the last 4th round comp pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted Tuesday at 09:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:55 PM On 3/12/2024 at 11:12 AM, TheyCallMeAndy said: After the NFL screwed us with the 3rd, I really don’t care about comp picks. At this point you're right. You might as well not even plan for these. Whatever falls in our lap is gravy. The fairness of their system should be under scrutiny, but hardly worth stressing over anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted Tuesday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:59 PM 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: Sort of random observation but today there has been a big shift in OTC data. Mack Hollins, who was previously way below the threshold, is now listed exactly as cutoff player at 670 (I am not sure, but he was listed as something like 710th or so before). This results in Bills losing 5th round pick for Floyd, and leave us with 4th round for Gabe Davis only. I know that after Tremaine debacle these unofficial sources need to be taken with a grain of salt, but I still find it interesting. Hopefully once all is said and done Hollins will fall under the line and we'll get 4th and 5th. https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks This happened last year I think with that site. It was a glitch or something to do with the draft data. I think it will be fixed soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted Wednesday at 01:59 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:59 AM 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: it’s one of the first times in years there’s been a discrepancy in predicting them and it was 2 guys by 1 round. while imperfect it’s still about 98% forecastable & Yet it was 100% wrong when forecast for the Bills. It burned them this year. I wouldn't go relying on it again. Treat it like found money if/when you get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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