Taro Nimbus Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Levi Wallace hinted that his time in Pittsburgh may be up. What would you think of the Bills signing him to bulk up our secondary? 3 1 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: Levi Wallace hinted that his time in Pittsburgh may be up. What would you think of the Bills signing him to bulk up our secondary? Not a crazy idea. in the Athletic (Joe Buscaglia ) Bills off season plans, he has Bills resigning Wallace at vet min. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Only for the vet minimum and only if we don't re-sign Jackson. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Not a crazy idea. in the Athletic (Joe Buscaglia ) Bills off season plans, he has Bills resigning Wallace at vet min. That about what I’d expect. He wasn’t terrible but he sure wasn’t good. Hell be fine for a 4th or 5h CB but anything higher than that and we will have problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mrags said: That about what I’d expect. He wasn’t terrible but he sure wasn’t good. Hell be fine for a 4th or 5h CB but anything higher than that and we will have problems. Over 6 years.. the worst passer rating he's ever allowed throughout a season put him at #47 for all qualifying corners He's also had multiple seasons where he's been in the top 30 and even once in the top 20 in passer rating against I think he's squarely a mid-tier number two in a platoon for at least another year or two.. with physical limitations that make him only a fit for 7 or 8 teams But those 8 teany who can get him cheap definitely don't get burned.. especially when they are platooning the number two guy to ,65-70% of snaps Edited March 11 by Buffalo716 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I'd prefer Dane, but we know McD prefers people familiar with his system so I could see it if Jackson gets priced out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Ugh no. Just no. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Nah, Dane Jackson is the new Levi Wallace. Solid, yet unspectacular CB that you can feel comfortable starting if someone goes down and doesn't cost much. I'd imagine he'll be back. With Douglas, Benford, Elam, and Jackson - unless Levi wants to be a Practice Squad guy, I'm not really interested in paying more for a 5th Outside CB. If someone does surprise us and pay more than we'd like for the role Jackson would play on this team, then I could see it. McDermott values CB's who know his system above all else. I mean, why do you think Josh Norman keeps popping up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Nah, Dane Jackson is the new Levi Wallace. Solid, yet unspectacular CB that you can feel comfortable starting if someone goes down and doesn't cost much. I'd imagine he'll be back. With Douglas, Benford, Elam, and Jackson - unless Levi wants to be a Practice Squad guy, I'm not really interested in paying more for a 5th Outside CB. If someone does surprise us and pay more than we'd like for the role Jackson would play on this team, then I could see it. McDermott values CB's who know his system above all else. I mean, why do you think Josh Norman keeps popping up? McDermott would take Levi Wallace over Josh Norman The problem Levi hasn't been available Norman has... Same price point I'm taking Levi 100% now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Over 6 years.. the worst passer rating he's ever allowed throughout a season put him at #47 for all qualifying corners He's also had multiple seasons where he's been in the top 30 and even once in the top 20 in passer rating against I think he's squarely a mid-tier number two in a platoon for at least another year or two.. with physical limitations that make him only a fit for 7 or 8 teams But those 8 teany who can get him cheap definitely don't get burned.. especially when they are platooning the number two guy to ,65-70% of snaps Yup. And watching him get smoked over and over again deep is infuriating. like I said, he’ll be fine if he’s one of our backups. But if we expect him to be a 2 or even a 3 we’re in trouble. Would rather save the money and let McD work his magic in a young kid out of college 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: McDermott would take Levi Wallace over Josh Norman The problem Levi hasn't been available Norman has... Same price point I'm taking Levi 100% now Over Norman. Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mrags said: Yup. And watching him get smoked over and over again deep is infuriating. like I said, he’ll be fine if he’s one of our backups. But if we expect him to be a 2 or even a 3 we’re in trouble. Would rather save the money and let McD work his magic in a young kid out of college Over Norman. Yes It depends what you consider a number three.. are you saying starting slot corner? The third defensive back in our nickel absolutely not Could he be the third outside corner? In a platoon limiting his snaps.. in McDermott's defense for veteran minimum yeah In McDermott's combination coverage defense he's actually pretty astute because he has a high football knowledge and he's great in palms coverage But he's definitely physically limited and getting older which means he's better platooning Edited March 11 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Sure. If he is cheap, he'd be good depth. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: McDermott would take Levi Wallace over Josh Norman The problem Levi hasn't been available Norman has... Same price point I'm taking Levi 100% now Oh, for sure. If Levi doesn't have any options and he wants to take Norman's spot on the Practice Squad - be my guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It depends what you consider a number three.. are you saying starting slot corner? The third defensive back in our nickel absolutely not Could he be the third outside corner? In a platoon limiting his snaps.. in McDermott's defense for veteran minimum yeah In McDermott's combination coverage defense he's actually pretty astute because he has a high football knowledge and he's great in palms coverage But he's definitely physically limited and getting older which means he's better platooning I do not include the slot corner spot. I don’t want him on the field ahead of Douglas, Benford, or even Elam. If he’s the 4th guy in the rotation then I guess that’s fine. But honestly, if you’re going to pay him more than vet min it’s too much. Just take your chances with a rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mrags said: I do not include the slot corner spot. I don’t want him on the field ahead of Douglas, Benford, or even Elam. If he’s the 4th guy in the rotation then I guess that’s fine. But honestly, if you’re going to pay him more than vet min it’s too much. Just take your chances with a rookie. Without a doubt I 100% agree With the practice squad editions I think he's the perfect veteran who could slot into the number two outside role due to circumstances Affordable, consistent in his scheme and technique He could be a valuable third outside corner to a cornerback needy team... But he's at least fourth on ours Edited March 11 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I always thought Levi was quality depth, when he was starting for us.🤣 Not sure if the sour taste of 13 seconds has left my palate yet for me to welcome him back but if McBeane deems it, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 NO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So no one wants to turn him into a safety… or is that reserved for CBs on the roster earning $10m a year ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Absolutely not. Was not good the last season he was with us. Has not been good for the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I prefer him to Dane Jackson. Yet only as 3rd outside CB on depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Typical Bills move woud be to bring a guy back someone else doesn’t want because he’s familiar with the playbook. Needs to stop. It’s good depth is the excuse gotta stop. Find guys with less experience who may have higher ceilings instead of average players past their prime that are probably on a decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said: Levi Wallace hinted that his time in Pittsburgh may be up. What would you think of the Bills signing him to bulk up our secondary? Levi was really decent for us. But that was a few years ago. Rather stay younger. Dane Jackson coming back would be about the main "vet depth" move I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 If we lose Jackson, but Insane Dane is definitely my preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Over 6 years.. the worst passer rating he's ever allowed throughout a season put him at #47 for all qualifying corners He's also had multiple seasons where he's been in the top 30 and even once in the top 20 in passer rating against I think he's squarely a mid-tier number two in a platoon for at least another year or two.. with physical limitations that make him only a fit for 7 or 8 teams But those 8 teany who can get him cheap definitely don't get burned.. especially when they are platooning the number two guy to ,65-70% of snaps not too shabby for an udfa I thought he was solid in Buf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 33 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: no thanks Yeah, I’m with you. Appreciate Levi but he isn’t a solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 No, I do not understand Bills fans fascination of resigning former Bills players, WTF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Douglas Benford Elam. For boundary corners, I'd probably draft one late and sign a priority UDFA - and probably look to use another late pick on a nickel depth piece to replace neal. Any vet i'm bringing in is a camp body most likely unless they perform or there are injuries. There's too many other holes to be spending much in the way of cap space on a depth corner, especially when we've had success drafting contributors late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 17 minutes ago, LarryMadman said: No, I do not understand Bills fans fascination of resigning former Bills players, WTF! Knowledge of the system and easy to fit in. Also coach knows their strength/weaknesses already. Less of a learning curve on both sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I'd like a guy like him on the PS, but if he starting a significant number of games, I'm worried 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Had a meh season last year 40-75 (53%) 569 yards and 6 TDs surrendered. 11 PBUs, 2 picks, 6 missed tackles (13%). Some of those numbers are good, some not so good. We can probably draft a 4th CB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I'm not sold on him.........sorry, not sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 9 hours ago, mrags said: That about what I’d expect. He wasn’t terrible but he sure wasn’t good. Hell be fine for a 4th or 5h CB but anything higher than that and we will have problems. Agree, certainly not a starter, imo a 3rd stringer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 All depends on the color of his underwear this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Over 6 years.. the worst passer rating he's ever allowed throughout a season put him at #47 for all qualifying corners He's also had multiple seasons where he's been in the top 30 and even once in the top 20 in passer rating against I think he's squarely a mid-tier number two in a platoon for at least another year or two.. with physical limitations that make him only a fit for 7 or 8 teams But those 8 teany who can get him cheap definitely don't get burned.. especially when they are platooning the number two guy to ,65-70% of snaps we are one of the 7 or 8 teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 hours ago, JerseyBills said: not too shabby for an udfa I thought he was solid in Buf Absolutely He worked his ass off for a career... Started with waking on at Alabama and it took 4 years to get a starting job! Most Walk-Ons give up after a year or two after not getting a scholarship 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 There is zero chance they are bringing back Levi Wallace after what he did during 13 seconds. Zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Mark80 said: There is zero chance they are bringing back Levi Wallace after what he did during 13 seconds. Zero. the player or the coaching? Though I never like Levi, though he was an UDFA so shouldn't have expected much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Had a meh season last year 40-75 (53%) 569 yards and 6 TDs surrendered. 11 PBUs, 2 picks, 6 missed tackles (13%). Some of those numbers are good, some not so good. We can probably draft a 4th CB. The worst season of his career and he still finished 47 for all qualifying cornerbacks passer rating against There are 64 outside corners starting For veteran minimum and a bench player that you wouldn't ask to do nothing more than platoon I don't think you could actually do much better ... Unless you absolutely hit on a fourth round pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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