boyst Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 i'd not be surprised to see a cut but the expectation is two reworks for two players not named Josh. there could be a trade to get the numbers correct also... just depends on the players as i understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I’d expect contract restructurings for Allen, and prob Dawkins and Taron Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: With adding Rapp, Trubisky etal. We are still 9 mill over the cap. I think ,b we can see more moves made, but I feel in the form of contract changes. But who knows, Beanes Katana now has the taste for blood... I believe the round of cuts are over for the time being. Sometimes between now and next Wednesday we're likely to hear about a couple of restructures. Perhaps an extension nor two. I suspect we sign a couple of our own FAs back between now and just before FA opens as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Happy? While I appreciate the effort and time of the players that got cut yesterday, the moves were needed. IMHO the moves were done a year late. Too old, slowing down, injuries and big bloated contracts. It had to be done. And if you read my post, I think most moves to have cap room will be contract moves not cuts, but a cut or 2 won't surprise me. Who else do you think is going to be cut from the team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, boyst said: i'd not be surprised to see a cut but the expectation is two reworks for two players not named Josh. there could be a trade to get the numbers correct also... just depends on the players as i understand. Ooooh...I really want a trade. It loves the precious draft picks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Restructure Josh.. no brainer Give extensions to Dawkins and Taron Johnson. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Aside from restructurings, it seems likely that they're going to need to do something with Taron Johnson's contract. I expect them to announce a contract extension soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 C jones is a 3 tech. We already have a great one in Oliver. we need a 1T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I'm hoping in the next CBA that contract restructuring is not allowed anymore. If you screwed up your cap, you should have to deal with consequences. If that means you have a bunch of street JAGs to fill your roster so be it. 1 1 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Who else do you think is going to be cut from the team? I don't see any cuts, but who knows. Josh and Dawkins restructures gets us about 29 mill in cap room. That's 20 mill to start FA, which is more than enough. I'm gonna go ahead and kick the hornets nest ( because I only have 1 cup of coffee so far...) and say... 20 mill allows us to trade ..... Diggs 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: I'm hoping in the next CBA that contract restructuring is not allowed anymore. If you screwed up your cap, you should have to deal with consequences. If that means you have a bunch of street JAGs to fill your roster so be it. Why would either side want to sign off on that? A restructure benefits both the team and the player 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I don't see any cuts, but who knows. Josh and Dawkins restructures gets us about 29 mill in cap room. That's 20 mill to start FA, which is more than enough. I'm gonna go ahead and kick the hornets nest ( because I only have 1 cup of coffee so far...) and say... 20 mill allows us to trade ..... Diggs 😁 I'd rather trade Knox. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 They haven't restructured Allen yet, right? That frees up 20+ million, I think. Ed Oliver as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 20 minutes ago, DJB said: Today Beane will cut Josh that should solve it and make you happy Then follow that up by trading for Zach Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: I'm hoping in the next CBA that contract restructuring is not allowed anymore. If you screwed up your cap, you should have to deal with consequences. If that means you have a bunch of street JAGs to fill your roster so be it. Why? It is good for literally everyone. The players get their money faster and the team gets cap flexibility. There is very little downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I don't see any cuts, but who knows. Josh and Dawkins restructures gets us about 29 mill in cap room. That's 20 mill to start FA, which is more than enough. I'm gonna go ahead and kick the hornets nest ( because I only have 1 cup of coffee so far...) and say... 20 mill allows us to trade ..... Diggs 😁 Yeah that’s not happening nor should it 20 minutes ago, bills6969 said: I’d expect contract restructurings for Allen, and prob Dawkins and Taron Johnson Owen rule out something being done about Dawson Knox’s contract 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I am worried about disrupting the progress of the running game. They finally built it and now center-left guard is going to be a concern until the games start and we see them succeed. They have to sign a veteran DE and DT in free agency they have no choice. I would like them to sign espenesa and daquan jones back even though jones is old and the team has made an effort here to get younger but he may come back on a team friendly deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 33 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I'd rather trade Knox. Oooooh... 34 minutes ago, MJS said: They haven't restructured Allen yet, right? That frees up 20+ million, I think. Ed Oliver as well. Oliver just got a new contract last year. Wait until the 2025 offseason to touch his contract again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Cheap 1t option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Trying to use free agency to build your team hardly ever works out. I think Brandon is doing it right Get some baseline guys in free agency to fill holes players that have been in the system as starters hit on your draft picks He keeps us cap compliant and allows us to have a little bit of money every year to continue to replenish baseline guys I don't like this year's group of FA's over all. I would love to have another 2nd round pick instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: They’re not gonna draft 11 players he’s going to use some of those pics to trade up into higher rounds Even with the players that we lost yesterday we wouldn’t be able to give a jersey to 11 new guys in the draft. There is too much talent on this team still True, but we keep getting promising players plucked from our PS. This is a good year to use more young players in meaningful roles. We will struggle at first, but like KC, things could come together later in the season when it matters, i.e. Rashee Rice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Cheap 1t option? The Bills are now playing the comp pick game and I love it. Edited March 7 by gonzo1105 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Cheap 1t option? Jags felt he was too inconsistent. Something that has plagued this team, so talking to him is a bit of a surpise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Get to 40 mil in space and take a big swing. Chris Jones Christian Wilkins (camp fights with Josh) DJ Reader Leonard Williams + Re-sign DQ. Derrick Henry if he doesn’t sign with Ravens CB Jaylon Johnson? only 24 We tried to acquire him at the trade deadline. That would be super intriguing. Benford or Rasul could move to Safety *Edit Franchise Tagged Paying Chris Jones and Wilkins and Reader and Leonard Williams and Derrick Henry and trading for Jaylon Johnson who’s franchise tagged…? Please give a detailed account as to how you’re paying all these guys with the limited cap space we are likely to have… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Christian Wilkins (camp fights with Josh) We find put that Josh has incentives in contract for knocking out fellow player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I thought I would create one thread and do the following: Merge the current cap projection threads Provide a daily update for 2024 in the first post from sportrac and over the cap as being primary sources While not a reliable # yet, update daily, in the first post, the 2025 projections from the same sources The remainder of the thread will contain “normal” chatter on the topic. 2024 projections: Sportrac $7,462,633 Over Overthecap $9,052,381 Over 2025 projections: Sportrac $38,898,522 Under Over the cap $29,041,425 Under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 16 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: I think if he asks them to send this years money via paypal and mark it as a GIFT it wont count. I got this info from a backwards hat guy with a youtube channel who watches film. Maybe you can pay them in gift cards and double down on fuel perks for the team bus visit to Niagara for the rookies this year? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 31 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: I thought I would create one thread and do the following: Merge the current cap projection threads Provide a daily update for 2024 in the first post from sportrac and over the cap as being primary sources While not a reliable # yet, update daily, in the first post, the 2025 projections from the same sources The remainder of the thread will contain “normal” chatter on the topic. 2024 projections: Sportrac $7,462,633 Over Overthecap $9,052,381 Over 2025 projections: Sportrac $38,898,522 Under Over the cap $29,041,425 Under Thank you good sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 hours ago, NoSaint said: worse, if he doesn’t return to form you are just making it harder to escape. If he was playing elite it would be worth a convo but the only way I’m making his 24 hit worse is by spreading his dead money because he’s cut. I’m gonna say that I think that Von Miller is going to return to some version of what he was and this will look like a smart deal 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, BBFL said: Maybe you can pay them in gift cards and double down on fuel perks for the team bus visit to Niagara for the rookies this year? 🤔 Tickets to the Canadian Ballet? 😁 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I’m gonna say that I think that Von Miller is going to return to some version of what he was and this will look like a smart deal I hope so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: While I appreciate the effort and time of the players that got cut yesterday, the moves were needed. IMHO the moves were done a year late. Yes. They got a little old last season. They probably should have bit the bullet on Poyer last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 26 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Yes. They got a little old last season. They probably should have bit the bullet on Poyer last season. Yeah, you could actually witness some players slowing down as the season went on. I'm of the mindset that once players start getting a little long in the tooth and can't perform to the highest level, you have to start letting these guys go......it's nothing personal, it's a business and a franchise that keeps personnel due to the fact that it becomes personal, isn't running their business effectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: I thought I would create one thread and do the following: Merge the current cap projection threads Provide a daily update for 2024 in the first post from sportrac and over the cap as being primary sources While not a reliable # yet, update daily, in the first post, the 2025 projections from the same sources The remainder of the thread will contain “normal” chatter on the topic. 2024 projections: Sportrac $7,462,633 Over Overthecap $9,052,381 Over 2025 projections: Sportrac $38,898,522 Under Over the cap $29,041,425 Under Is this the current cap with the Tre White release or without? Since the 10 million from Tre roles off after June 1 seems this would make them cap compliant before doing anything further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 If we cut Josh Allen, the dead cap hit is only 99 million. Now, if that's too rich for your blood, we could always just make him a post June 1st cut and spread some of it into next year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: If we cut Josh Allen, the dead cap hit is only 99 million. Now, if that's too rich for your blood, we could always just make him a post June 1st cut and spread some of it into next year. Could the Bills workout a deal with Lay's or Verizon where they pay him $50,000,000 a year and we get him at vet minimum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Mods can we get this thread pinned (or otherwise merge the first page with the running cap thread)? The cap thread that is pinned doesn't have a running list of transactions. Edited March 7 by vtnatefootball11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Once Allen's restructure is completed the Bills will have $20-22 million to spend in FA and for the draft pool. Not huge amounts but they can sign a number of budget FAs with that money. 15 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Is this the current cap with the Tre White release or without? Since the 10 million from Tre roles off after June 1 seems this would make them cap compliant before doing anything further They don't have until June 1st, they have to be cap compliant by next week or the week after I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 My 2024 cap projection says they’ll be under it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Once Allen's restructure is completed the Bills will have $20-22 million to spend in FA and for the draft pool. Not huge amounts but they can sign a number of budget FAs with that money. They don't have until June 1st, they have to be cap compliant by next week or the week after I believe. They will. One restructure (Allen) will be done during the tampering period I am guessing. Remember Beane has said many times he doesn't kick the can until the money is spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: They will. One restructure (Allen) will be done during the tampering period I am guessing. Remember Beane has said many times he doesn't kick the can until the money is spent. It’s also a good way to tell agents I only have this much to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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