Steptide Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Von has an out that only cost $15 million against the cap if cut him in 2025. I'd rather not touch that term with his status unknown for now. Oh I didn't realize that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: And Taron. I stated before but no on Taron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 3/5/2024 at 2:51 PM, BuffaloBill said: The basis for you even asking this question is that he was extended once before. The Bills need to stop kicking the can down the road on a 32 year old with a concussion history (no - it does not matter how long ago - whet does matter is his history of them). The Bills, having now traded Bates, are likely to draft his eventual replacement and pay him the $11mil this season. Well guess we were both right. They didn't kic the can down, but didn't pay the $11 mil either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Success said: Just checking around the internet, the general sentiment is that our window is now officially closed. I agree w/ you. Tre hardly played for us the last couple of years. Hyde & Poyer were kind of starting to hurt us in terms of speed in the secondary. If Beane nails the draft & we can stay kind of healthy (admittedly, 2 big "ifs), we might even be better heading into '24. I think you can sign FA Safeties and get the same level of play for cheaper, if that's what he wants to do. I'd probably invest a 3rd rounder. Tre isn't going to be Tre and that salary was ridiculous after the injuries. It's just like the Miller situation except with Tre we had an out. Gotta take it. Harty? JAG, unfortunately. Can replace him with any number of guys off the street. Neal? Special teams don't move the needle for me, and the special teams was bad anyways with Neal on the roster. Morse is the only big name, especially considering we just traded Bates. The Bills are gonna get a lot younger and I think that's going to be to our benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Steptide said: RE structure Josh and von and we'd be in good shape DO NOT touch Vons contract. We need out of it next year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: Oh I didn't realize that https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/von-miller-7717/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 A fine day for drinking, indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 41 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: This aged well 😂 On the contrary it was presient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 23 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: This is all great in theory, but until it’s done, it’s not done. Beane has until 4pm on March 13th to get his top 51 contracts under the 2024 cap. Even if he accomplishes that goal, he still needs to clear another 10-11 million to sign his draft picks and at least 20 mill more to complete his roster unless he chooses to just use draft picks and guys on futures/reserve deals as his depth next season. By the time they sign the picks, the cap hit from the draft will only be about half that amount. For example, the top pick is slotted to make $2.46 mil, but will knock someone off the top 51 list making $900K, so the net addition will be $1.56 million, and the bottom half of the draft picks may not even count for the top 51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I think there hasn’t been a move so far I was saying OUCH too. morse would likely be the closest but planned for Life after Morse with McGovern. So I think I am even ok with that. I do like the approach. No more running it back with aging talent kicking the can. Rip the bandaid off. Get cap compliant. Get younger and continue to work. rather do it now with Josh’s timeline in his career than a year or two from now. Keep it up Beane. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: Would be a real shame if you double dog dared the league to suspend Von, thus allowing us to cut him at little cost. Would be terrible. 🤥 I will try to work more Mojo,but Beane really sapped my strength today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, TPS said: By the time they sign the picks, the cap hit from the draft will only be about half that amount. For example, the top pick is slotted to make $2.46 mil, but will knock someone off the top 51 list making $900K, so the net addition will be $1.56 million, and the bottom half of the draft picks may not even count for the top 51. Not to mention Tres savings in June is the exact amount needed to sign the entire pool without even talking the top 51 rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 18 minutes ago, appoo said: You lose more cap space by cutting him then keeping him, plus started to look spry at the end of the season so some hope of a bounce back Not after 6/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 37 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: I gave you the eyeball roll reaction but this post aged quite nicely for you, apparently Beane agrees with you! Props, I didn't see it coming. Maybe Beane was playing his cards close the vest or Morse wasn't willing to play ball with a restructure. Either way, with the news on McGovern moving to center and Edwards to LG (and of course the cap savings) I'm starting to see the light. Like Mitch, but not $8.8 mil worth. Beane is doing the right thing and remaking this team with younger talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 the recap. And it was needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Looking at the Bills roster, they only have 48 active players QB: 54(1): Allen Camp/PS (1): Buechele RB: 54(1): Cook Camp/PS (1): Darrynton Evans WR: 54(3): Diggs, Shakir, Shorter Camp/PS (3): KJ Hamler, Isabella, Tyrell Shavers, Bryan Thompson TE: 54(2): Kincaid, Knox Camp/PS(2): Tre McKitty, Zach Davidson T: 54(5) : Van Denmark, Brown, Anderson, Dawkins, Doyle Camp/PS(1): Gouraige G: 54(2): Edwards, Torrance C : 54(1): McGovern DE: 54(2): Von, Rousseau Camp/PS(1): Kinglsey Jonathan DT: 54(1): Oliver Camp/PS(2): Ankou, Cline LB: 54(4): Milano, Bernard, Williams, Spector CB: 54(4): Johnson, Douglas, Elam, Benford Camp/PS(2): Brown, Ingram S: 54(1): Damar Hamlin Camp/PS(1): Kendall Williamson P: 54(1): Martin Camp/PS(1): Haack K: 54 (1): Bass LS: 54(1): Reid Ferguson By my Count the Bills have 30 players they'll use on their 54 on the roster currently, and they need to get to 90 for camp. Beane is gonna earn his salary this off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Like Mitch, but not $8.8 mil worth. Beane is doing the right thing and remaking this team with younger talent. Yeah I am fine with McGovern going back to Center a position he played in PS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah I am fine with McGovern going back to Center a position he played in PS. To be clear, he only did this his Sophomore year. As a freshman and junior he played guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Not to mention your Tre, Poyer, Hyde and Morse could all be sitting there still in May. Just now, appoo said: To be clear, he only did this his Sophomore year. As a freshman and junior he played guard Overall 26 years old. played center in college full time logged 100 snaps at Center in the NFL I have NO issue with McGovern at Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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