par73 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 No surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 What the heck. Defensive backfield. Gone. Love the guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Purge Wednesday....I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I'm gonna pass out. You guys wanted talking points... 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wait, why post June 1? Wasn't he due a roster bonus if still on the team next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Spotrac on White's post-June 1 cut: 2024 Dead Cap: $6,234,918 2025 Dead Cap: $4,134,918 2024 Cap Savings: $10,208,819 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Probably my favorite Bill over the past 20 something seasons but it had to happen. I’ll always love the guy. 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 So that savings won’t be available until June 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 If they had cut him now would the cap hit have been the full $10 mil this year? But they do get to take the full $10M saving this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Wait, why post June 1? Wasn't he due a roster bonus if still on the team next week? Yes. The team does not pay that or any other non-guaranteed money. Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: If they had cut him now would the cap hit have been the full $10 mil this year? But they do get to take the full $10M saving this year? The contract sits on the books as if he was still on the team until 6/1. The only difference is that the team is not obligated to pay work out bonuses, roster bonuses, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 10 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Spotrac on White's post-June 1 cut: 2024 Dead Cap: $6,234,918 2025 Dead Cap: $4,134,918 2024 Cap Savings: $10,208,819 In addition, it frees up some cap in 2025 because his salary was 10.5M so saves like 6.5M if he stayed on the team next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Yes. The team does not pay that or any other non-guaranteed money. The contract sits on the books as if he was still on the team until 6/1. The only difference is that the team is not obligated to pay work out bonuses, roster bonuses, etc. so if not paying for these things it in turn lowers the amount over the cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Are they allowed to release a player that is still injured? I thought you had to do an injury settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: so if not paying for these things it in turn lowers the amount over the cap? They would not pay for them if they released him without the post 6/1 designation either. I was just clarifying that even though his contract is carried on the books as if he is here until 6/1, the Bills don’t owe him any of that money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Well now the ones that wanted him gone so badly can be happy. Go ahead and celebrate at the Casino tonight and brag. Have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 It's sad, such a great player with a great spirit who gets double bad luck on the injury front....life is truly not fair sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajinka Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, CheshireCT said: It's sad, such a great player with a great spirit who gets double bad luck on the injury front....life is truly not fair sometimes. Eh he made millions of dollars playing a kids game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) I am glad we released him but I don't understand the post-6/1 designation. We could have taken a $10.3M dead cap hit this year and saved $6M right a away, with no ramifications in 2025. Instead we take a $6.2M dead cap hit this year AND a $4.1M dead cap hit in 2025. And we don't really get to use his savings this year until after FA is over. I wonder what the thought process was here? Edited March 6 by HappyDays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art in PNS Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 So the post June savings will be our emergency/ working fund for 2024 plus free agents after camp cuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Loved the guy, but he was done. He HAD to go. Good on Beane. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Best CB we’ve ever had when healthy. Loved his attitude and everything about him but I understand the move. Hope he rebounds and plays great for an NFC team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, NeverOutNick said: Best CB we’ve ever had when healthy. Loved his attitude and everything about him but I understand the move. Hope he rebounds and plays great for an NFC team. This is just patently false. WInfield/Clements were both WAY better than Tre, and I liked Tre 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 12 minutes ago, rajinka said: Eh he made millions of dollars playing a kids game. The Bills are making the right move, so no complaints about that. Sure he's got money and had success, the point is that he was a highly gifted, hard-working athlete with a great spirit whose career was cut short. That's disappointing, for him, the team, and the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Beane doing the RIGHT thing. We need to get younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I am glad we released him but I don't understand the post-6/1 designation. We could have taken a $10.3M dead cap hit this year and saved $6M right a away, with no ramifications in 2025. Instead we take a $6.2M dead cap hit this year AND a $4.1M dead cap hit in 2025. And we don't really get to use his savings this year until after FA is over. I wonder what the thought process was here? What you post is exactly how I understand it too. I'd rather take the full 10 now than spread it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Ok, now we’re seeing Bean making the tough but necessary decisions, I was worried he’d be too emotionally involved with some of the veterans to do what needed to be done. Glad to see the GM is doing right by the organization and leaving feelings at the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 The right move here by the Buffalo Bills two ACL’s Tre White won’t be the same player he once was in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Surprisingly, I'm not all that upset. I've soured on Tre over the last 2 plus years. His play looked like it was in decline before he got hurt and it just went south from there. Yeah, it sucks getting injured. I know everyone is different but I thought he would have returned sooner after his ACL. When he did finally return he looked pedestrian at best. It also looked like he was afraid to go 100% because of fear of reinjuring. That really ticked me off. Then last year with the Achilles kinda sealed his fate and now will wear a "damaged goods" label. High character, good team mate, but the run is over. Good luck Tre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: This is just patently false. WInfield/Clements were both WAY better than Tre, and I liked Tre loved Winfield and Clements but at his best Tre was better. True lockdown #1. Winfield was the best tackling CB we’ve ever had though I’ll concede that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: This is just patently false. WInfield/Clements were both WAY better than Tre, and I liked Tre Agree that Nate was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbowl Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I’m sure both McDermott and Beane hated doing this. The business end of the nfl sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, davefan66 said: What the heck. Defensive backfield. Gone. Love the guy! He hasn't been there for the last 2.5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, davefan66 said: What the heck. Defensive backfield. Gone. Love the guy! Yah i hate that his luck went the way it did i figured he would be a Bill for life but that injury bug just doesn't care who it bites !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Nate Odomes had a similar career to Tre. Very productive, lasted longer than the average CB but injuries ended his career in a similar fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, Beast said: Probably my favorite Bill over the past 20 something seasons but it had to happen. I’ll always love the guy. 💯 always 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 36 minutes ago, Snowbowl said: I’m sure both McDermott and Beane hated doing this. The business end of the nfl sucks Ideally, Beane was the clear hatchet man and made it easier for McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: He hasn't been there for the last 2.5 years. Was back last season. Unfortunately got injured again. Tre is a baller and great dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) I’ll always root for Trey but Achilles to one leg and an acl to the other who knows if we would ever see the old tray again We just couldn’t do it not at that price Edited March 7 by John from Riverside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: I am glad we released him but I don't understand the post-6/1 designation. We could have taken a $10.3M dead cap hit this year and saved $6M right a away, with no ramifications in 2025. Instead we take a $6.2M dead cap hit this year AND a $4.1M dead cap hit in 2025. And we don't really get to use his savings this year until after FA is over. I wonder what the thought process was here? I suspect, though I don't know, it is related to the injury. If they'd cut him with an immediate designation then because he couldn't pass a medical the roster bonus, which is guaranteed for injury, accelerates onto the cap so your savings are not $6m they are $4.5m. Maybe with a post 1 June cut the point at which he has to be able to pass the medical is then - even though technically he is a FA now? I don't know that last sentence to be true. Others might know more on how that works. But that is my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, davefan66 said: Was back last season. Unfortunately got injured again. Tre is a baller and great dude. Three games. We all know about the injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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