DapperCam Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I think he’ll get 2 years $60-70m somewhere. He’s carved out a niche as an ideal bridge QB for a team that is looking to draft a rookie this year or next year and let them sit. Pats would be a good fit. Commanders maybe if they aren’t sold on Howell. Raiders possibly as well. He can get you to the playoffs, and even elevate his play when the game is on the line and you need to push the ball down the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I think he’ll get 2 years $60-70m somewhere. He’s carved out a niche as an ideal bridge QB for a team that is looking to draft a rookie this year or next year and let them sit. Pats would be a good fit. Commanders maybe if they aren’t sold on Howell. Raiders possibly as well. He can get you to the playoffs, and even elevate his play when the game is on the line and you need to push the ball down the field. I met some Tampa fans during my travels last winter and they were very happy with the Baker. I feel that the Bucs will keep him in the 30 to 40 range with incentives. They made the playoffs, didn't they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Baker very nearly led the Bucs to the NFC Title Game. That's crazy. They'll re-sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, CNYfan said: I met some Tampa fans during my travels last winter and they were very happy with the Baker. I feel that the Bucs will keep him in the 30 to 40 range with incentives. They made the playoffs, didn't they? I don’t think he will get cheap so much as the years will be short and non guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 The bucks aren’t going to let him get away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: I wouldn't be surprised if Vegas trades up. I definitely think they'll gauge Washington and New England's interest in moving down. Antonio Pierce is the guy that brought Jayden Daniels to Arizona State. But even if that doesn't work out, I could see them moving up for JJ McCarthy. Any team dumb enough to trade up for McCarthy deserves the misery soon to follow. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 24 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Baker very nearly led the Bucs to the NFC Title Game. That's crazy. They'll re-sign him. Yeah he’s not going anywhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Mayfield is certainly going to get a bag from someone this offseason, whether it's the Bucs or someone else. Still a lot of QB needy teams out there and at worse he's shown he can be an average NFL starter in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, BBFL said: If the Pats and Jets beat us with rough QB play I’d rather he stays out of the division. Guy looked pretty competent and played very well last season. That could be a flash in the pan year but he’s certainly shown the substance to be a starter in this league. A competent one who can win games at that. Feel there will be several teams reaching out to his agent for his services, those two you mentioned would have to be included. It’s worse than that if Baker goes to an AFCE team. He’s streaky. If he’s on, it can be a problem. Odds are he would be “on” in one of the two games we’d play him every year. I wonder if he’d go to the Steelers? The AFCN would be even more stacked. 56 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The bucks aren’t going to let him get away I think this is likely - and I would prefer it this way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 This leak could be from the Bucs and aimed at getting Winfield Jr signed to an extension due to the threat of the tag. Once he signs they can tag Baker if needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 3 hours ago, cle23 said: The lengths people will go to discredit Purdy are outright insane. Whichever talking head said “Purdy could walk on water and you all would say “it’s because he doesn’t know how to swim”” had it right. The kid had an MVP season and everyone goes out of their way to find fault. If he had just been a higher draft pick, none of this non-sense would be out there. He played a really good game in the SB, lead a late game go ahead drive and scored in OT, but it was all his fault. Nonsense. He didn’t collapse, his OL sure did, but he played good enough to win. He outplayed our own JA in the playoffs, oddly enough, it was Chris Jones who wrecked both clear TD passes for the Bills and the 9ers by being on the QB before they could throw. Allen had a little time before it happened, Purdy had nothing. Credit the team around him all you want, that’s a weak ass excuse. He was making his money with the 3rd WR. So say what you want, I’m not buying. 5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: This leak could be from the Bucs and aimed at getting Winfield Jr signed to an extension due to the threat of the tag. Once he signs they can tag Baker if needed. They won’t tag Baker, it’s takes away all their leverage. He’s good, not elite, should be able to get him back at ~30M, no need to go insane. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, H2o said: Any team dumb enough to trade up for McCarthy deserves the misery soon to follow. Seems like there's a lot of buzz right now that he'll end up going top 15 and could even go top 3 by the time the draft process plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: He’s just a guy. Best to draft a guy When he's healthy, "when" being the key word, he's better than JAG status. 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: He’s just a guy. Best to draft a guy When he's healthy, "when" being the key word, he's better than JAG status. 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: He’s just a guy. Best to draft a guy When he's healthy, "when" being the key word, he's better than JAG status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 hours ago, Gregg said: Figured the Bucs would sign him after the season he had. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/buccaneers-allow-baker-mayfield-to-become-free-agent/ar-BB1izJhL?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=970c0c618f984f76b838bb46b4c63b89&ei=12 According to the convo Mayfield had with ?Steve Young? Off set, Mayfield expected to be signed. So it may be the Bucs low-balled him (according to Mayfield’s price point) or, Mayfield wanted a vet starter contract and the Bucs said “OK, go out and see what you can get”. 5 hours ago, colin said: i don't know what should work out price wise, but if he was the qb for sf, they beat kc in the bowl. I don’t know that I agree with that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: He’s just a guy. Best to draft a guy Don't know if he's championship caliber, but he's better than JAG (when healthy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 at least call Mike Evans agent to see if he would have interest in coming here. We could create the cap room for him if we actually wanted him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 46 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: It’s worse than that if Baker goes to an AFCE team. He’s streaky. If he’s on, it can be a problem. Odds are he would be “on” in one of the two games we’d play him every year. I wonder if he’d go to the Steelers? The AFCN would be even more stacked. I think this is likely - and I would prefer it this way. Steelers are a good shout. Think he would do well there being in a situation where they are a run first team. Could actually be a killer scenario for him where he gets to take revenge on the Browns twice a year… Could be a sticking point for him to sign. Don’t think that supersedes the financial side of things though. Highest bidder wins IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 19 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Seems like there's a lot of buzz right now that he'll end up going top 15 and could even go top 3 by the time the draft process plays out. Insanity. I don't believe it. He never once carried that team. Harbaugh's scheme actually hid him quite well. He averaged a whopping 199 yds per contest. Does that scream top 5 pick to you? Does that even scream 1st Round pick to you? Any of this chatter is probably being put out there by his agent imo. Like I said before, any team dumb enough to trade up for him deserves the misery that will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Just sell Woody on the prospect of having every QB drafted in 2018 eventually wearing the Jets uniform. He'll lap that up. 😁 He got Favre at age 39. I may be ok with him taking Josh in 2035. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 If they're able to retain Mike Evans, the Bucs could get the same production with Andy Dalton. No. I'm not kidding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 someone's going to pay him the best contract of his career 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, DCofNC said: They won’t tag Baker, it’s takes away all their leverage. He’s good, not elite, should be able to get him back at ~30M, no need to go insane. It depends on how long they want to tie themselves to him. He’s not going anywhere without guaranteed money tying him to a team for at least two years. Tagging him could be cheaper overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: It’s worse than that if Baker goes to an AFCE team. He’s streaky. If he’s on, it can be a problem. Odds are he would be “on” in one of the two games we’d play him every year. I wonder if he’d go to the Steelers? The AFCN would be even more stacked. I'd rather have him than deal with the Pats taking Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jaylen Daniel, etc.. At least I know Baker's ceiling. Atlanta would make perfect sense if the Bucs let him hit free agency. The Steelers and Raiders would be intriguing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 12 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I'd rather have him than deal with the Pats taking Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jaylen Daniel, etc.. At least I know Baker's ceiling. Atlanta would make perfect sense if the Bucs let him hit free agency. The Steelers and Raiders would be intriguing too. That’s fair, but Baker would allow them to take Marvin Harrison Jr. I would not be a fan of that either. I haven’t done much homework on the QBs this season so I can’t speak to what they’d be getting at 3. I do know that, in general, even QBs picked in the top 3 are far from a sure thing. Baker and MHJ would immediately give NE a very good chance at splitting games against the Bills (not that they didn’t with Mac Jones last season), but I get your point that if they find a true FQB it would be a bigger long term problem. Edited February 21 by BarleyNY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 44 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: If they're able to retain Mike Evans, the Bucs could get the same production with Andy Dalton. No. I'm not kidding. At no point in his entire football career has Andy Dalton ever, IN HIS LIFE, woke up in the morning feeling pretty dangerous. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, H2o said: At no point in his entire football career has Andy Dalton ever, IN HIS LIFE, woke up in the morning feeling pretty dangerous. Andy Dalton, historically, has been better than Baker Mayfield and with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and few more pieces currently on that Bucs roster there'd be no drop off in production. On what planet has Baker become this $35 million a year guy? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, stuvian said: someone's going to pay him the best contract of his career I don't know, it could go either way imo. I personally think it's a better chance that he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I'd rather have him than deal with the Pats taking Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jaylen Daniel, etc.. At least I know Baker's ceiling. Atlanta would make perfect sense if the Bucs let him hit free agency. The Steelers and Raiders would be intriguing too. Drafting a QB and signing mayfield are not mutually exclusive concepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I think a team like the Browns could use him 😂 Justin Fields is going to be the QB all these teams without a high pick want imo. Could be an option for the Raiders, Giants or Falcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 31 minutes ago, Chaos said: Drafting a QB and signing mayfield are not mutually exclusive concepts. True but specifically in the Pats case, they won't be able to draft a top QB and Marvin Harrison Jr.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, dma0034 said: I think a team like the Browns could use him 😂 Justin Fields is going to be the QB all these teams without a high pick want imo. Could be an option for the Raiders, Giants or Falcons I won't be surprised to see the Bears keep Fields and draft MH2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, H2o said: Insanity. I don't believe it. He never once carried that team. Harbaugh's scheme actually hid him quite well. He averaged a whopping 199 yds per contest. Does that scream top 5 pick to you? Does that even scream 1st Round pick to you? Any of this chatter is probably being put out there by his agent imo. Like I said before, any team dumb enough to trade up for him deserves the misery that will follow. I have an early 2nd round grade on him personally so I don't agree with the top 5-10 talk at all. I don't really care about his stats all that much though/within context they're actually quite good. I think the people that are very high on him are really glossing over his complete lack of touch throws though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 15 hours ago, colin said: i don't know what should work out price wise, but if he was the qb for sf, they beat kc in the bowl. People are in love with Purdy but he choked enormously in the second half of the SB. Can't really blame him, a young guy with the pressure piling up. Mayfield would have handled it better. 15 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Pairing up Baker and Marvin Harrison Jr could move them past the Jets for 3rd best team in the division. Don't sleep on the Jets. They have a very strong defense, although CJ Mosely is a FA and a lot rides on what happens there. What they MUST do is fix their terrible O line. If they don't do that, Rodgers won't last the first game of next season, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 14 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Atlanta would make perfect sense if the Bucs let him hit free agency. Wait! What?! There's an NFL team in Atlanta?! * No matter how successful a season they might have, I always find myself at some point in the offseason saying "Oh, yeah. Atlanta Falcons. They're a team." 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 hours ago, Utah John said: People are in love with Purdy but he choked enormously in the second half of the SB. Can't really blame him, a young guy with the pressure piling up. Mayfield would have handled it better. Don't sleep on the Jets. They have a very strong defense, although CJ Mosely is a FA and a lot rides on what happens there. What they MUST do is fix their terrible O line. If they don't do that, Rodgers won't last the first game of next season, either. everyone was being horrible to me and disagreeing with my post! for real tho, purdy stinks. he has a paint by numbers offense that he just has to follow the recipe on, and an embarrassment of talent all over the shop, but just made continued fundamental errors down the stretch, as well as obviously not having the dynamic ability or athleticism to make a single thing happen off script. obviously the special teams disasters were what sunk the 9ers, but if they moved the ball just a little here and there they could have scored another td (including off of the horrendous pick that mahomes threw) or more. i don't really care about the 9ers, but i hate kc and hate the fact i had to root for those dumb clowns to stop kc from another ring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 15 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Andy Dalton, historically, has been better than Baker Mayfield and with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and few more pieces currently on that Bucs roster there'd be no drop off in production. On what planet has Baker become this $35 million a year guy? I guess you couldn't catch on to the sarcasm in that statement On the Andy Dalton talk though, he's washed. He's nothing more than a journeyman backup at this point, I don't care who you put around him (minus that 49ers team. I think Shanahan could make any QB look serviceable). Baker is definitely a better option than him, on any team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 15 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: On what planet has Baker become this $35 million a year guy? Depends how much Progressive pays (paid) him. Might be a new market to exploit. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 18 hours ago, DCofNC said: Whichever talking head said “Purdy could walk on water and you all would say “it’s because he doesn’t know how to swim”” had it right. The kid had an MVP season and everyone goes out of their way to find fault. If he had just been a higher draft pick, none of this non-sense would be out there. He played a really good game in the SB, lead a late game go ahead drive and scored in OT, but it was all his fault. Nonsense. He didn’t collapse, his OL sure did, but he played good enough to win. He outplayed our own JA in the playoffs, oddly enough, it was Chris Jones who wrecked both clear TD passes for the Bills and the 9ers by being on the QB before they could throw. Allen had a little time before it happened, Purdy had nothing. Credit the team around him all you want, that’s a weak ass excuse. He was making his money with the 3rd WR. So say what you want, I’m not buying. I love Purdy. He is efficient, confident and makes good decisions quickly. He does things off-script pretty well too and is a good enough athlete to get 5 yards and a 1st down. He won't wow you with any plays but very rarely is going to make a mistake. I think he's better than Tua in a very similar system. There is a reason he's only lost 5 (not counting the NFCCG last year) games as a starter, one of them being the Super Bowl in which he had a lead when he left the field. To say he's just a game manager is absurd. Scouts missed him, it happens. He will be in the top QB group for a decade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 17 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I'd rather have him than deal with the Pats taking Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jaylen Daniel, etc.. At least I know Baker's ceiling. Atlanta would make perfect sense if the Bucs let him hit free agency. The Steelers and Raiders would be intriguing too. I can’t see what avenue the Pats choose him over Mayo getting a guy for the future. Especially when they are sitting at #3 and can get one of the trio you mentioned. Plenty of cap space to build a team for whomever they draft. Throwing anywhere from $25m-35m on Baker would be a huge loss if they’re sitting in that position. While I get your thought process it isn’t the best option for that organization to give the keys to a guy who’s had ups and downs that found himself in the right situation last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 hours ago, dma0034 said: I think a team like the Browns could use him 😂 Justin Fields is going to be the QB all these teams without a high pick want imo. Could be an option for the Raiders, Giants or Falcons Fields is terrible. People keep trying to make him some guy who has just been overlooked but he hasn't been much better than Tyson Bagent this year. He's just too streaky to be the guy and if you are asking after 3 years, you already know the answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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