Super Bowl LVIII Pre Game Thread

[Goin Breakdown]

6 minutes ago, muppy said:

Im not surprised that Taylor Swift is being discussed. She is seemingly unescapable as she treks around the world on her private jet from tour to NFL game spectator. 

 

The fascination with her and the sheer influence and power she wields is to me staggering.

 

I would very much like a "Taylor Swift" filter blocker on my feeds.  She and her Red lips are officially on my nerves. Too much is too much

 

I teach and all the boys talk about the teams and all the girls talk about their favorite team "the KCs" and their favorite player is "her boyfriend who catches the ball". 

Edited February 11 by Goin Breakdown

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

So you're enjoying the constant negativity against the like of Allen and Diggs? The post I referenced embodied that.

I'm so confused lol

 

I may have misquoted. 😁

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

24-20 SF 

31-17 SF, it’ll never be in doubt either 

[Turk71]

49ers win and

McCaffrey is MVP..

He said something that indicated  this is personal and his determination runs really deep.

He wants to prove he is the real MVP this year and I think he's right.

I think the Chiefs will have a hard time stopping him...and Kittle.

On offense I think the Chiefs tackles will struggle with the outside rush when passing and Pacheco will be bottled up rushing. 

 27-20 9ers

[Success]

KC's experience is such a benefit in a game like this.

 

That team has a ton of SB experience.  It's kind of like what happened w/ the Pats all those years - they had a big advantage at a certain point, just by virtue of the fact that they had been there so many times.  For players going to their 1st SB, it can be overwhelming.  

 

I'm expecting a good, close game - but a KC blowout wouldn't shock me, especially if they get off to a hot start.

 

[Shortchaz]

2 hours ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

31-17 SF, it’ll never be in doubt either 

I’m leaning this way, more like hoping. 
 

I think the niners have to be in control from jump if they want to win. If it’s close the chiefs will win. 

[philholbroo]

I'll be watching- the ref show 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Wasnt going to watch, but got covid so i have nothing else to do. Ill probably sleep through most of it. Hopefully the commercials are good. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Not watching.  I saw one play of the NFC Championship game accidentally when I looked up at the TV while on the elliptical at Planet Fitness.  Other than that I have not watched anything football related.

I've been buried at work which helps, but I could not be more disinterested.

I truly believe the Bills are fourplays away from having two Lombardi trophies.  13 seconds and wide right part duex have sucked the life out of me for now.

I will still be engaged when the offseason starts.  I think we have a real good chance to get young again and be a top team next year.  

 

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I’ve been wrong before so it wouldn’t be the first time if i’m wrong here.

 

But the “X market is large” doesn’t work for Super Bowls. Because those markets tend to watch whether their team is in the game or not.

I’m going to guess 110M average (not peak).

Playoffs this year set all time records.  The Chiefs/Bills game was the most watched Divisional game of all time.  It will definitely be in the top 5 of all time.

[Zerovoltz]

Some thoughts that you guys didn't ask for, but here they are anyway. 

 

1.  I've never heard a Taylor Swift song.  I don't know much about her except that she has a bazillion fans and a bunch of them have jumped on the Chiefs bandwagon.  If you think this won't be the most watched super bowl in history then you know even less than I do about what an absolute draw Taylor Swift is.  

 

2.  Once teams start to enter the dynasty discussion, they become hated.  It's not new.  Alot of posts here about hating on the Patriots.  ME TOO.  I got sick of that in short order.  I understand the overkill overhype overexposure the Chiefs are getting.  I don't blame people who are fatigued by it.  I will say, it's really cool being on this side of it.  

 

3.  Obviously I am a biased homer, but I think KC wins this 31-17.  The 49ers have been VERY SHAKY in eeking out playoff wins that that the other teams could have taken.  Brock Purdy hasn't played well but he's been good in moments....but those moments have only come to even exist becasue Detroit and Green Bay let oppertunities literally bounce off helmets and/or slip  through their hands.  ...and those teams aren't good defensively.  Purdy has been AWFUL when he's had to play stout D's.  Baltimore shredded them.  Cleveland gave Purdy fits.  San Fran likes to run a bunch of motion.  KC just counters that by switching up their look right after the oppsoing team motions.  For those watching...pay attention to the niners pre snap motion, then once they've move, watch KC change their front/alignment etc.  Also, the niners D has NOT been good...the 2019 version KC beat was far superior to his one.  The 49ers kicker isn't good and isn't equal to this task.  He'll miss a kick.

 

4.  I am leaning FULL ON into this swifty consipiracy theory (sort of)  I got a three leg parlay that has Kelce OVER 1.5 TD.  Purdy OVER 1.5 INTS and Jerrick McKinnon anytime TD.  100 pays 25k.  ....McKinnon HAD BEEN a long shot to play due to core surgery he had on Jan 2nd.  He's been activated and I cna't imagine him not playing at this piont since they've taken the step to make him active.  He took a knee at the 1 last year when he could have scored a TD in the super bowl.  He's 32, and this might be his last game ever...they'll try and get him in the endzone.  

 

5.  We are having hot links and chilli dogs.

[Richard Noggin]

51 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

Some thoughts that you guys didn't ask for, but here they are anyway. 

 

1.  I've never heard a Taylor Swift song.  I don't know much about her except that she has a bazillion fans and a bunch of them have jumped on the Chiefs bandwagon.  If you think this won't be the most watched super bowl in history then you know even less than I do about what an absolute draw Taylor Swift is.  

 

2.  Once teams start to enter the dynasty discussion, they become hated.  It's not new.  Alot of posts here about hating on the Patriots.  ME TOO.  I got sick of that in short order.  I understand the overkill overhype overexposure the Chiefs are getting.  I don't blame people who are fatigued by it.  I will say, it's really cool being on this side of it.  

 

3.  Obviously I am a biased homer, but I think KC wins this 31-17.  The 49ers have been VERY SHAKY in eeking out playoff wins that that the other teams could have taken.  Brock Purdy hasn't played well but he's been good in moments....but those moments have only come to even exist becasue Detroit and Green Bay let oppertunities literally bounce off helmets and/or slip  through their hands.  ...and those teams aren't good defensively.  Purdy has been AWFUL when he's had to play stout D's.  Baltimore shredded them.  Cleveland gave Purdy fits.  San Fran likes to run a bunch of motion.  KC just counters that by switching up their look right after the oppsoing team motions.  For those watching...pay attention to the niners pre snap motion, then once they've move, watch KC change their front/alignment etc.  Also, the niners D has NOT been good...the 2019 version KC beat was far superior to his one.  The 49ers kicker isn't good and isn't equal to this task.  He'll miss a kick.

 

4.  I am leaning FULL ON into this swifty consipiracy theory (sort of)  I got a three leg parlay that has Kelce OVER 1.5 TD.  Purdy OVER 1.5 INTS and Jerrick McKinnon anytime TD.  100 pays 25k.  ....McKinnon HAD BEEN a long shot to play due to core surgery he had on Jan 2nd.  He's been activated and I cna't imagine him not playing at this piont since they've taken the step to make him active.  He took a knee at the 1 last year when he could have scored a TD in the super bowl.  He's 32, and this might be his last game ever...they'll try and get him in the endzone.  

 

5.  We are having hot links and chilli dogs.

 

I hate your team and all that and hope they suffer untold misfortune, but this is an excellent post. 

[LewPort71]

49ers  29

Chefs  12

 

Over / under on Taylor Swift camera shots... 4.  I'll  bet the over.

 

 

[Simon]

12 hours ago, muppy said:

I would very much like a "Taylor Swift" filter blocker on my feeds.  She and her Red lips are officially on my nerves. Too much is too much

 

You want a Taylor Swift filter to block the excessive Taylor Swift discussion?

Physician, heal thyself.

[boco357]

I am probably in the minority but the Kelces are infinity more annoying than Taylor Swift.  Over exposure and trying to be involved in everything to set up for life after football. I think Jason now is even more annoying than Travis now he's retired. Oh let's make a bet Buffalo to get clicks and to get more listeners to our podcast.  Get lost!

Edited February 11 by boco357

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

13 hours ago, boyst said:

Why? Her culture is the embodiment of everything wrong with our culture.

 

So many of us just want to ignore her but can't. An

Enough with her coverage.

 

Let her be who she is and let us watch football in peace. 

So she is being who she is.

 

All she's doing is going to a game and supporting her boyfriend like any girl would like to do.

 

She has no control of the media coverage and how many times the camera will pan over to her during the game.

 

It's OK not to like her for whatever reason but she hasn't done anything wrong. 

 

Let's be honest here. If she were Josh's girlfriend we would all love the coverage 

[Herc11]

13 hours ago, boyst said:

Why? Her culture is the embodiment of everything wrong with our culture.

 

She is a magnificently talented entertainer who has charmed her way across the world. It's not what so many dislike her for or wish to never see her again.

 

Maybe it isn't all directed at you but I work with plenty of guys at work who are football fans from across the spectrum of the ideology base. It is a multinational company where 1 out of 5 are not united states citizens. All of them interested in football has lamented the discussion of her. How if you dislike her the news says you're a conservative conspiracy theorist because she is at the super bowl. How if you don't like her you don't like powerful women. How if you don't like the attention she brings the league you need to rearrange your priorities. How the new fanbases should be welcome to football.

 

So many of us just want to ignore her but can't. And when we get tired of it we get labeled as all sorts of things.

 

Enough with her coverage. Let her be who she is and let us watch football in peace. 

 

Is it really her fault that the NFL and the networks took full advantage of her newfound relationship? I guess if you believe in the conspiracies then you would say yes. Otherwise, she just a significant other that should have every right to attend her boyfriends game, just like every other player. 

 

I blame the NFL and the networks with their greed taking full advantage of the situation more than anything.

[Belgium_Bill]

In my timezone I won't watch, cannot bring myself to wasting an entire pre-workday night if it ain't the Bills.  I'll just watch the "game in 40 minutes" version on GameDay (or DAZN as it is over here now) tomorrow morning without knowing the score.

It wouldn't be the first superbowl that turns out totally different from what all the analysis has been throwing at us for 2 full weeks, so my prediction is that 49rs will win on the back of a great performance by their defence, the unlikely hero of the game will be Jauan Jennings, but since he's not famous enough CMC will get the MVP.

See you all in the off-season, Go Bills! 

[boyst]

12 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

So she is being who she is.

 

All she's doing is going to a game and supporting her boyfriend like any girl would like to do.

 

She has no control of the media coverage and how many times the camera will pan over to her during the game.

 

It's OK not to like her for whatever reason but she hasn't done anything wrong. 

 

Let's be honest here. If she were Josh's girlfriend we would all love the coverage 

That's not the problem anyone has with her. It's that she has so much baggage.  She flies across a city and then sues the dude who tracks her plane without even listing a crime. She seems the camera and everything about it - being weird af riding around in boxes, and more.

 

And, I think most would be just as annoyed by Josh bringing that much of a distraction.

 

Everything everyone else is doing about Taylor makes Taylor unlikable.

13 minutes ago, Herc11 said:

 

Is it really her fault that the NFL and the networks took full advantage of her newfound relationship? I guess if you believe in the conspiracies then you would say yes. Otherwise, she just a significant other that should have every right to attend her boyfriends game, just like every other player. 

 

I blame the NFL and the networks with their greed taking full advantage of the situation more than anything.

Why? This is just like the headline I read that conservatives hate Taylor Swift and believe she is part of a conspiracy. Or the headline "white americans find nothin wrong with Taylor Swift."

 

I don't think she is part of some conspiracy. I think the media making this way more than it should be to divide people up is a major problem.

 

I don't give a ***** about Taylor Swift. Her new music is dog *****. Pre 1989 album her music was fun and I still love it.

[PromoTheRobot]

Is this today?

[SoonerBillsFan]

10 hours ago, Turk71 said:

49ers win and

McCaffrey is MVP..

He said something that indicated  this is personal and his determination runs really deep.

He wants to prove he is the real MVP this year and I think he's right.

I think the Chiefs will have a hard time stopping him...and Kittle.

On offense I think the Chiefs tackles will struggle with the outside rush when passing and Pacheco will be bottled up rushing. 

 27-20 9ers

I hope he is right.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Going to a party … hey, it’s a reason to party and get together with family and friends…no different than some mostly meaningless holiday like Dyngus Day … I’ll DVR the game and head home after halftime, watch the rest when I get home and definitely skip the post game nonsense 

21 hours ago, Einstein said:

I won't be shocked if this Super Bowl has (relatively) very low numbers. 

NFL fans have Chiefs fatigue, and their opponent has 5 Lombardi trophies themselves (and was in a Super Bowl just a few years ago)

 

These may be the two worst possible teams to have in this game, from an interest perspective. 

 

I honestly think Bills-Lions would have drawn record viewership because of how different/new it would have been.

 

I'll watch, because its the last NFL football we will have for 7 months, but I won't be all that interested in anything other than the Chiefs hopefully losing.

The Swiftie contingent will inflate the viewership numbers significantly IMO 

[Einstein]

10 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

 

 

The Swiftie contingent will inflate the viewership numbers significantly IMO 

 

Perhaps you’re right about this.

 

I’m coming at it from an NFL fan perspective but that’s a wrinkle.

[dgrochester55]

1 hour ago, Herc11 said:

 

Is it really her fault that the NFL and the networks took full advantage of her newfound relationship? I guess if you believe in the conspiracies then you would say yes. Otherwise, she just a significant other that should have every right to attend her boyfriends game, just like every other player. 

 

I blame the NFL and the networks with their greed taking full advantage of the situation more than anything.

 

and this is the problem.  This is the toxic conformity (which I largely blame on the media) over the last four years that bothers me.   You must think one way or else.... At least it used to only apply to more important topics.  now it is even in pop culture. 

 

What if I told you that it was possible to both be annoyed with the overexposure of Taylor and not be a conspiracy theorist?  Josh Allen has a celebrity girlfriend too, but I don't remember that being shoved in everyone's face.

 

I was neutral to Taylor Swift until this year.  Even at first, I would have agreed with your last sentence and defended her saying that it was the media's fault.  However, her actions of calling NFL fans "dads brads and chads" and her action of threatening to sue a college student to tracking her private jet emissions has made her come off as the very type of tone deaf elitist that many in society are sick of.

 

I just hope that it is a close game so that those who watch can enjoy some good quality football. 

 

Edited February 11 by dgrochester55

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

19 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

T Swift killed the good vibes.  Shes 34 year old but mentally 12. 

Based on your deep understanding and personal experience with her? 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

59 minutes ago, Herc11 said:

 

Is it really her fault that the NFL and the networks took full advantage of her newfound relationship? I guess if you believe in the conspiracies then you would say yes. Otherwise, she just a significant other that should have every right to attend her boyfriends game, just like every other player. 

 

I blame the NFL and the networks with their greed taking full advantage of the situation more than anything.

Yes, it’s just horrible that a business would take advantage of a situation that they didn’t create to enhance the bottom line … how DARE they!

[Bills!Win!]

Anytime the patriots, 49ers or chiefs play in the Super Bowl I’m simply just bored 

[SaulGoodman]

15 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

KC isn’t popular.

 

They are the most disliked team in the league, according to a survey conducted two weeks ago.

Supposing they are the most hated team in the league right now, you realize that doesn’t equate to a lack of interest, right? 
 

If having “fatigue” causes a lack of interest, why were the Patriots involved in several of the highest-rated Super Bowls? And not early, when they were something new…the later ones. 
 

On one hand, you have people claiming that the Taylor Swift effect is so profitable that the league is fixing games for KC. Now I’m being told that no one cares and it will be one of the lowest-rated Super Bowls ever. 
 

Btw, did you know that the last SB was the most-watched telecast ever? Or that the Chiefs-Ravens game set records?
 

I get that you hate KC, but you’re not even using logic. 

Edited February 11 by SaulGoodman

[Freak-O]

It starts after midnight here, is about five ours long with an hour of actual sports and I don’t care who wins. I think I’ll pass on this one.

[Wayne Arnold]

Can someone smart explain to me why the 49ers are favored? I feel like pouring money into the Chiefs but my overconfidence makes me very hesitant and there must be something I'm missing.

[Low Positive]

5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

Can someone smart explain to me why the 49ers are favored? I feel like pouring money into the Chiefs but my overconfidence makes me very hesitant and there must be something I'm missing.

Because you can run on the Chiefs and the 49ers have the best RB in football?

[Einstein]

11 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

If having “fatigue” causes a lack of interest, why were the Patriots involved in several of the highest-rated Super Bowls? And not early, when they were something new…the later ones. 

Causation = / = correlation.

 

Super Bowl's become more popular over time in general. We saw increased viewership from 1966 until 2016. The NFL is doing a great job of marketing it every year.

However, starting in 2016, numbers actually started to decrease.

 

One thing I will say is that I didnt consider the Swift angle too much when I made my original post, or I wouldn't have made it. Her fans may make the difference and put it over the edge. I was simply talking from an NFL fan perspective.

 

11 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

Btw, did you know that the last SB was the most-watched telecast ever?

This is not accurate.

 

Last years Super Bowl had an all-platform viewership of 115.1M.

 

The most watcher Super Bowl ever had over 126M. The second most watched had 119M. The third most watched had 118.5M. The fourth most watched had 115.8M.

 

Last years Super Bowl wasn't in the top 4. 

You can see the rankings here.

 

The reason you think it was the most watched telecast ever is because you fell for the clickbait Nielsen advertisement where they said that. However, what they didn't tell you is that they didn't start accounting for out-of-home streaming until 2021. So the 2022 Super Bowl was the most watched telecast of their new rating metric.... that came out in 2021. So, it was the most watched of 2021 or 2022.

[BBFL]

Really hope the 9ers win. Not for the usual reason of seeing the Chiefs lose but because I’d like to see Mr. Irrelevant, Trent Williams (who played for the abysmal Redskins all those years, our old boy Feliciano who’s played a key role in that OLine and a QB with the last name Allen to get a SB ring…

[muppy]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

You want a Taylor Swift filter to block the excessive Taylor Swift discussion?

Physician, heal thyself.

Touche 🙂 It was more of a comment regarding her being everywhere on social media. I'll do my griping offline forthwith 🙂

[Augie]

3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Based on your deep understanding and personal experience with her? 

 

TayTay was close friends with Kelsea Ballerini when she lived in an apartment in Nashville across from Vanderbilt. My son lived in the apartment adjacent to Ballerini. We’d see TayTay in the parking garage as we unloaded groceries or in the hallways. I’d say that gives me deep and personal insight into her soul. I’m sure she is still talking about seeing us, as well. I’m a bit surprised I haven’t been invited into the suite with her for the games, but I assume that was due to her knowing of my Bills fandom. What else could it be?  🤷‍♂️

 

 

EDIT: I’m not bragging when I say she may have written a song about me. I AM bragging when I say that I’d have no idea if she did, since I could not name a single song of hers. 

 

 

.

Edited February 11 by Augie

[Steptide]

I'm a die hard 49ers fan today, but I don't think they have a shot 

[Herc11]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

That's not the problem anyone has with her. It's that she has so much baggage.  She flies across a city and then sues the dude who tracks her plane without even listing a crime.

 

 

You realize a crime doesn't have to be committed to sue someone, right?

[BBFL]

14 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I'm a die hard 49ers fan today, but I don't think they have a shot 

They don’t have a shot? How so? The Chiefs have barely scraped through these playoffs the past 2 games. That’s going to catch up to them. Now the same can be said for the 9ers, yes. But both of their wins the opposing team came to play. One of them was a 28-7 turnaround in the second half to win by 3. 
 

Buffalo is the only offense that showed up to play KC… Even then there was miscues and plenty points left on the field. Miami, one of the highest scoring offenses did absolutely nothing in the WC. And then the best running game in the NFL decides to just come out and sling it 40 times versus 12 on the ground (it was 18 in total but 4 of them were scrambles by Lamar). 
 

Both teams are very capable of winning this game and both have had some shortcomings and potential scares that could have cost them being here. Bigger picture, San Francisco has performed better and has one less game under their belt, even though KC  didn’t have to really show up versus Miami

 

😂

 

 

 

Edited February 11 by BBFL

[Wayne Arnold]

40 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Really hope the 9ers win. Not for the usual reason of seeing the Chiefs lose but because I’d like to see Mr. Irrelevant, Trent Williams (who played for the abysmal Redskins all those years, our old boy Feliciano who’s played a key role in that OLine and a QB with the last name Allen to get a SB ring…

 

Yep can't wait to hear the new lazy media narrative all year how Brock Purdy is now the best quarterback in the NFL. 

[Success]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Yep can't wait to hear the new lazy media narrative all year how Brock Purdy is now the best quarterback in the NFL. 

 

I was just talking w/ my friends about this yesterday.  It will absolutely happen.

 

But it won't have that much lasting power.  It will just be a few months of annoyance.