somnus00 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Nothing personal. I'm happy for him. But I wanted him and Dorsey to be replaced last offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, MWK said: Good to get some fresh people in here. Eric Washington didn’t exactly impress. 5 years for Oliver to turn into an impact player. Hasn’t developed anyone else. The resources we spend on the DL far outweigh the production. True but the DL did have a great Year overall, finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, Doc said: Where did you read that if promoted to DC he'd have to have play-calling to prevent him from being signed as a DC elsewhere? Honestly I can't remember. And I have no idea how the check. But I am sure I have heard it somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Doc said: I don't think the Chefs wanted him back. Have you seen their offense this year??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Hopefully they hire an experienced DL coach and not just promote the assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Doc said: I don't think the Chefs wanted him back. My point is, if he were calling the plays in KC that would have made him a stronger candidate for HC jobs. I think the goal for 95% of these guys is to eventually become an NFL head coach, so they will take whatever career path gives them the best chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: True but the DL did have a great Year overall, finally They fell flat on their faces in the biggest game of the season. The defense will be rebuilt in 2024 - specifically the DLine. This was convenient timing. I'm guessing McDermott made some calls to get him another position and will find someone with experience coaching up young DLinemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: True but the DL did have a great Year overall, finally I just fans are overvaluing our players because of where they were picked. I liked AJ in college but he never was going to be anything special in the nfl besides a nice rotational DE. Oliver is undersized so some games, he’s going to get shallowed up. Von is washed. Greg has turned into a solid all round DE but doesn’t seem to possess elite pass rushing skills. hopefully, it is the coach but I think most of those guys aren’t special players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Seems like a promotion in title only. Eberflus will continue to call plays. So maybe Bills do the same and promote Babich. Maybe that was the way team was leaning which led Washington to take the Bears job. Edited January 27 by billieve420 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Honestly I can't remember. And I have no idea how the check. But I am sure I have heard it somewhere. According to the NFL website, Eberflus is going to continue calling the plays for Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Promoting Babich means nothing unless they are giving him playcalling. He would still be nickable. Congrats coach Washington. Although I wouldn't be delighted by this if I was a Bears fan. I’m not sure that what you say about nickable is correct. I doubt there is anything in the nfl rules about a permissible lateral move being dependent on playcalling. I think it would be impossible to enforce, especially since playcalling is often fluid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Possible Babich Ron Rivera 🤷♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Pretty soon McD will be DC and coaching all defensive positions. He’s power hungry and someone needs to stop him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 8 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: I’m not sure that what you say about nickable is correct. I doubt there is anything in the nfl rules about a permissible lateral move being dependent on playcalling. I think it would be impossible to enforce, especially since playcalling is often fluid. Yea possibly. I am sure I heard it somewhere though. EDIT: found the rule: "Must play a role in the development of the game plan but is not required to call the plays during games." Final decision where there is dispute is for Old Roger. And teams are required each year to submit their coaching heircarchy and job descriptions. Edited January 27 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I just fans are overvaluing our players because of where they were picked. I liked AJ in college but he never was going to be anything special in the nfl besides a nice rotational DE. Oliver is undersized so some games, he’s going to get shallowed up. Von is washed. Greg has turned into a solid all round DE but doesn’t seem to possess elite pass rushing skills. hopefully, it is the coach but I think most of those guys aren’t special players. I thought Miller was best DE in that game, which isn't saying much but at least gives me a glimmer of hope he can turn it around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: Considering the Bills could have probably retained him by promoting him internally to the semi-vacant DC position, they probably weren’t too sad to see him go. He was assistant head coach and dl coach. Is this a step down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 A perfectly healthy, defensive line got nothing done in that playoff game I know there’s more to it than that, but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I’m calling Ryan Kerrigan right now. He’s in limbo in Washington as the assistant DL coach and he obviously is familiar with the system having worked for Ron Rivera. He’d be the fresh bright mind who had success as a player. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I’m calling Ryan Kerrigan right now. He’s in limbo in Washington as the assistant DL coach and he obviously is familiar with the system having worked for Ron Rivera. He’d be the fresh bright mind who had success as a player. Let us know if he's interested. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 hours ago, Low Positive said: Comp picks are only for HC and GM hires. by not having a DC at least in name only....the bills have eliminated the possibilty of a future comp pick from that side of the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea possibly. I am sure I heard it somewhere though. EDIT: found the rule: "Must play a role in the development of the game plan but is not required to call the plays during games." Final decision where there is dispute is for Old Roger. And teams are required each year to submit their coaching heircarchy and job descriptions. ? What am I missing here. It seems that the guidance specifically states that playcalling is NOT a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 15 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: ? What am I missing here. It seems that the guidance specifically states that playcalling is NOT a requirement. Yes it does. I was clarifying. I knew there was some standard I thought it was playcalling, was sure I'd heard that but it isn't its gameplanning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Thank you Jesus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: True but the DL did have a great Year overall, finally Tell that to Mahomes and MaAuto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Babich hired as GB DC...curious how neither were qualified to be our DC this past season or considered for next season!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Eric Washington another dog ***** Panthers transplant. The D line didi't even touched Mahomes and Burrows the past 4 playoff losses. He is to blame for the awful performance by the D line in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: Babich hired as GB DC...curious how neither were qualified to be our DC this past season or considered for next season!? Where did you see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 If we also lose Babich who appears to be a rising star and McDermott just says no big deal I'll still be the de facto DC and call plays then I think we have a BIG problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Eric Washington another dog ***** Panthers transplant. The D line didi't even touched Mahomes and Burrows the past 4 playoff losses. He is to blame for the awful performance by the D line in the playoffs Players get a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 hours ago, Low Positive said: Is he going to call the plays? Eberflus called the plays in Chicago for most of last season after their DC quit. Probably. Maybe they think Washington can get a head coaching gig if the defense balls out next year and they can get those two third round comp picks. 3D chess stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I found this quote by McDermott interesting when talking about Babich: “Good coach. He’s developed players and I think when you evaluate a coach it’s ‘are you taking what you have and making it better.’ And I think it doesn’t need to get any more complex than that, and Bobby’s done that.” So did Washington take what he was handed and make it better? I would say absolutely not. To me this is not a loss but has the potential to be a chance to add something new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Couldn’t get the job here? I wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: We need to shake things up. First off congrats to him, he has worked hard for it. Second, I really like Babich, but if he is DC will he be allowed autonomy to run what he feels is "his" system? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Do the Bills get comp picks or is that only for HC/GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Players get a pass? The DL players played lights out in the regualr season. They become turds in the post season. That's on the coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Good for him. Next ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Harris 69 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 It would be great for the defense to have a young voice like Babich. It’s hard to see 13 letting him make that jump because he’s not 1000 years old. Pray I’m wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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