Process Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Hmmm, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Hopefully this opens the door for a Babich promotion to stay in Buffalo 5 17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Process said: First off... congratulations to Coach Washington. Better promote Babich now. Wonder if this brings Al Holcomb into a new role as well. Edited January 27 by BuffaloBillyG 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Good to get some fresh people in here. Eric Washington didn’t exactly impress. 5 years for Oliver to turn into an impact player. Hasn’t developed anyone else. The resources we spend on the DL far outweigh the production. Edited January 27 by MWK 15 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Promoting Babich means nothing unless they are giving him playcalling. He would still be nickable. Congrats coach Washington. Although I wouldn't be delighted by this if I was a Bears fan. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Is he going to call the plays? Eberflus called the plays in Chicago for most of last season after their DC quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Has any assistant coach ever done less with more? Glad another team is forcing us to shake it up. Maybe he'll be a better coordinator than he was a defensive line coach. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Do they get a comp pick next year? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, noacls said: Do they get a comp pick next year? Comp picks are only for HC and GM hires. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Comp picks are only for HC and GM hires. Unless you're New England 😆😆😆 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The McDermott coaching tree is finally sprinkling nuts on the ground. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 We need to shake things up. First off congrats to him, he has worked hard for it. Second, I really like Babich, but if he is DC will he be allowed autonomy to run what he feels is "his" system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 10 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Comp picks are only for HC and GM hires. Was not sure if they added coordinators. Thanks. Promote Babich now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 You could make a good argument that Washington was the defacto DC here this year. He was listed along with the other coordinators on the Bills coaches' roster. He took the press conferences that the DC usually takes. He was involved in game planning as the associate head coach. But, you say, he didn't have that title!!! Well, the league only defines the position of assistant coach and head coach. It doesn't dictate that any team has to call someone "coordinator." Other teams have "coordinators" that did the same work that Washington did here, but you usually see it on the offensive side of the ball. So I would argue that Washington was as much of a defensive coordinator as Brian Callahan was an OC in Cincinnati or Mike McDaniel was in SF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Frazier would have done the same if he was hired. You know, except it would have made more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Low Positive said: You could make a good argument that Washington was the defacto DC here this year. He was listed along with the other coordinators on the Bills coaches' roster. He took the press conferences that the DC usually takes. He was involved in game planning as the associate head coach. But, you say, he didn't have that title!!! Well, the league only defines the position of assistant coach and head coach. It doesn't dictate that any team has to call someone "coordinator." Other teams have "coordinators" that did the same work that Washington did here, but you usually see it on the offensive side of the ball. So I would argue that Washington was as much of a defensive coordinator as Brian Callahan was an OC in Cincinnati or Mike McDaniel was in SF. It does now recognise coordinator as a position. But I believe you have to have playcalling responsibility for it to be granted any sort of protection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Looks like we know who the DC is again next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlinBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Wouldn't the Bill's have to have agreed to let him go as he was technically in a higher position as assistant head coach and still under contract? Not exactly sure how all that works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This is probably a net positive for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 24 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: The McDermott coaching tree is finally sprinkling nuts on the ground. Daboll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 29 minutes ago, noacls said: Do they get a comp pick next year? For assistant coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Tyler Dunne to Eric Washington right now: 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Thank you for your service! Moving on….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, BattlinBill said: Wouldn't the Bill's have to have agreed to let him go as he was technically in a higher position as assistant head coach and still under contract? Not exactly sure how all that works... Good question. I'm curious about this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Considering the Bills could have probably retained him by promoting him internally to the semi-vacant DC position, they probably weren’t too sad to see him go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 41 minutes ago, MWK said: Good to get some fresh people in here. Eric Washington didn’t exactly impress. 5 years for Oliver to turn into an impact player. Hasn’t developed anyone else. The resources we spend on the DL far outweigh the production. I have the same feeling. Washington got a pass a lot of times for poor performance. He seemed to be right hand man for McDermott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 ok, now promote Babbich 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The Bills win A LOT. And with winning comes poaching of your staff. Yet even with the losses of coaches every year they still win a lot. That’s what a franchise QB gives you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 McD Babbich Brady Bring in the next wave of elite assistants groomed to be coordinators and lets roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Promoting Babich means nothing unless they are giving him playcalling. He would still be nickable. Congrats coach Washington. Although I wouldn't be delighted by this if I was a Bears fan. Where did you read that if promoted to DC he'd have to have play-calling to prevent him from being signed as a DC elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 49 minutes ago, MPT said: Has any assistant coach ever done less with more? Glad another team is forcing us to shake it up. Maybe he'll be a better coordinator than he was a defensive line coach. Maybe those guys he had aren’t really that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Considering the Bills could have probably retained him by promoting him internally to the semi-vacant DC position, they probably weren’t too sad to see him go. For all the picks and FA's spent on the DL,wr haven't gotten nearly the results we need. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, Doc said: Where did you read that if promoted to DC he'd have to have play-calling to prevent him from being signed as a DC elsewhere? I’m sure it hasn’t been stated explicitly, but a coordinator position with play calling responsibilities is definitely above one without. Look at Bienemy, couldn’t get a HC job because everyone knows Reid actually ran the KC offense. He had to make another lateral move to the Commanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Maybe those guys he had aren’t really that good. It could be both, but if you are missing that much on high draft picks... Terry needs to make Beane fire whomever scouts DL and WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Can we ask if they want McDermott too? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, DapperCam said: I’m sure it hasn’t been stated explicitly, but a coordinator position with play calling responsibilities is definitely above one without. Look at Bienemy, couldn’t get a HC job because everyone knows Reid actually ran the KC offense. He had to make another lateral move to the Commanders. That didn't stop McDaniel, O'Connell, or Callahan from getting HC jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I’m sure it hasn’t been stated explicitly, but a coordinator position with play calling responsibilities is definitely above one without. Look at Bienemy, couldn’t get a HC job because everyone knows Reid actually ran the KC offense. He had to make another lateral move to the Commanders. I don't think the Chefs wanted him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Beane and McD low-key have decent coaching/GM trees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Do we get a comp pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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