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1 minute ago, Bob Jones said:

Tua. Jerry Jones is cheap. Remember the Ezekiel Elliot episode? LOL

Yeah I can't see Jerry keeping Dak and McCarthy if they fail to produce again next year. Instead see if can develop Lance or grab a QB to pair with him. Tua and McDaniel could be gone in Miami after next season too. 

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https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

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6 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

 

That's a really bad deal for Miami.  Tua is still the best QB they've had in a long time.  To trade that away for a castoff and some mid-tier draft value...no,  Miami would never go for that. 

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1 minute ago, Brandon said:

 

That's a really bad deal for Miami.  Tua is still the best QB they've had in a long time.  To trade that away for a castoff and some mid-tier draft value...no,  Miami would never go for that. 

I think Fields would be a good fit. More mobile than Tua and has a better arm. 

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14 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

No cold-weather team would ever trade for Tua, given his track record in anything above swimsuit weather.

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3 hours ago, Chaos said:

Tua vs. Dak , who gets the bigger new contract this offseason?

 

Will either become the NFL's top paid QB?

 

Hoping Tua is paid like a king, with the biggest contract ever--he deserves it!

 

And then, less money the other fish for years...

 

He is soo scary, has McDermott's number obviously, and deserves at least 45-50 million a year, guaranteed.

 

 

But Jerry is old and afraid of dying before he gets a his non-Jimmy (never going to happen)  SB victory, so will likely pay ol' Zak @ 50 million a year.  Yikes.

 

Sad, as I think Jerry has to know that Zak is incapable of winning a big game, let alone the Super Bowl.

 

 

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I hope they both get absolutely top money, then their respective teams will be screwed for years, wouldn’t that be really cool, 😁👍

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2 hours ago, Brandon said:

 

That's a really bad deal for Miami.  Tua is still the best QB they've had in a long time.  To trade that away for a castoff and some mid-tier draft value...no,  Miami would never go for that. 


it’s also to avoid the cap hit though. It’s a reality that tua on a rookie deal is valuable. Tua handed 250m becomes much less valuable 

2 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

I think Fields would be a good fit. More mobile than Tua and has a better arm. 


But I think far less touch, not as able to make reads, etc…  just not a great scheme for unless McDaniel were to rework it. He could apply pressure on a defense with him though I guess. 

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3 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

Terrible deal for Mia imo

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Dang is it time for Dak to get a new contract already?  Well he has a no franchise tag clause in his contract so Dallas pays him or they lose him.

He'd be a nice backup for Josh!!

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13 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

Tua. Jerry Jones is cheap. Remember the Ezekiel Elliot episode? LOL

Agreed.  Ross will just flimflam investors with some mutual fund schemes to write a blank cheque for Tua.  Jerry has always put me in mind of the guy walking the stadium aisles after the game, picking up lost change.

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13 hours ago, chongli said:

Neither. Trevor Lawrence will be.


Which sucks since the only noteworthy thing he’s done in his career is be on the other end of one of the greatest chokes in playoff history 

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13 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

 

How is it a good deal for Miami? They downgrade at QB with no obvious way of getting an upgrade in terms of the picks etc.

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13 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

This is a terrible deal for all three teams. Miami will not give up the guy who lead the league in passing and had 30 Tds for a guy that has 44 Tds in 3 years and late 2 and 3. That is insane. Tua has plenty of flaws, but he is far better than Fields

 

Fields sucks. He has gone up from 58%-61% completion in 3 years. He has 54 total TDs in 3 years. He averaged 208 yards passing this year (I'm not counting the game he got hurt) and 50 yards a game rushing. This year he had guys like DJ Moore and Cole Kmet. At some point he needs to show why he went 11th overall. 

14 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

I think Fields would be a good fit. More mobile than Tua and has a better arm. 

But he cant throw the ball with any consistency 

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14 hours ago, Chaos said:

Tua vs. Dak , who gets the bigger new contract this offseason?

 

Will either become the NFL's top paid QB?

I am not a fan of either qb, I would think Dak will be the higher paid player of the two.

 

Dolphins could tagTua and give him one more year to develop.

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16 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

Doesn't make sense for the Bears

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17 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

That's not much of a return for the Bears, who saw Fields really developing in the second half of this past season.  I think you're assuming the Bears will draft a new QB with their #1 pick, and that might happen, but there's a lot of uncertainty about what the Bears will do.  If they do decide to part ways with Fields, I think they can get quite a bit more for him in a 2-team trade with some team desperate for a QB.  

 

And I think that's slanted in the Dolphins favor.  A starting QB plus a third plus a second?  That's a lot of return for a QB that can't compete in the cold.  Which Denver is, of course.  Tua is in exactly the best available position for him.  He's an accurate passer with good receiving weapons.  If the Dolphins can upgrade/repair their O line, Tua will do OK where he is.  No other team has the ideal environment for his skills and his limitations.  

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18 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock

 

Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick

 

• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick

 

• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick

 

If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams. 

Denver is not that stupid.

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