Dan Darragh Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Too many pages to scroll through... Has anyone mentioned the Punt God yet in this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Bass is most likely fine going forward, he hasn't had any confidence-shattering games that destroy kickers permanently. Martin is completely cooked though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 17 hours ago, VaMilBill said: I think at this point we can all agree that our ST performance has been mediocre across the board. It lost us the game against the Jets, Broncos and gave up a huge return today against the Chiefs. Contributing to that is our kicking games. Sam Martin is averaging 44 YPP which is ranked at 32. Not good. The amount of times he’s had short punts or just not a lot of hang time this year seems countless. Tyler Bass is also not Bass-O-Matic. He’s got a 80% kicking average which is ranked 29th in the league. He’s missed some important kicks and to me he has been making it look pretty difficult. He also doesn’t seem to have the leg and I think it’s pretty apparent based on McD not trusting him. The amount of times we’ve punted from the opponents 40 this year seems like it’s our new norm. It makes me envious seeing the eagles kicker kick a 59 yard kick to tie the game in the rain. Or the Dallas kicker nail a 60 yarder tonight. I think Bass is having some mental issues and probably needs to be replaced next year. I have little faith in him if he is kicking with the game on the line. Thry are responsible for thr OT loss to the jets because of a punt return? Denver, philly, snd New England scoring game winning/ tying drives under 2 minutes left in the game. guess we just blame Tre for getting injured too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: Thry are responsible for thr OT loss to the jets because of a punt return? Denver, philly, snd New England scoring game winning/ tying drives under 2 minutes left in the game. guess we just blame Tre for getting injured too? Sorry. Not the jets. Meant to say Pats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Ah yes, another ‘person x is having a down year, we should replace them,” thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Martin is terrible tie. To bring back Punt God!! I think bass has an underlying injury but could be lack of confidence in Martin as holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Martin the only one showing up today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said: Martin the only one showing up today. he’s put two inside the 10. Anyone still want the guy who out 1 in the 17? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Martin was huge in the early part of the game....was a good game for him to be on his punt game today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Martin almost deserves a game ball. He was perfect. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Bass has made some clutch kicks. Then he lost it. Seemed to have the yips. Thank god he’s back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 This didn’t age well. Martin was the MVP vs the Chargers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Locomark said: This didn’t age well. Martin was the MVP vs the Chargers. No it didn't but senility comes to all other than those who die early. Martin reminded me of Moorman this game with kick placement; very high praise indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I take back every bad thing I said about Martin. He was incredible with 3 punts inside the 5? Without him I think we lose the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 They've caught their second wind, not sure about not looking for Martin's replacement still though, his early struggles were worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I think Bass also looks like he's been striking the ball better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 the thread title raised my blood pressure until I saw the date of the OP I hate the special teams giving up scores like they did but the kicking game was spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said: I take back every bad thing I said about Martin. He was incredible with 3 punts inside the 5? Without him I think we lose the game. Agreed. He’s been much better these last four or five weeks. He’s really helped us win two games in that timespan. Hopefully he keeps it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Martin is fine. The least of this team’s problems. If you complain about the punter a lot, your Offense is the real problem…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 our ST coordinator should be fired 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry jones Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Martin is fine. The least of this team’s problems. If you complain about the punter a lot, your Offense is the real problem…. Agreed. If you rely on your kicking game as much as we have been lately, eventually you’re gonna get burned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 How fast is Bass! Faster than Jerry Seinfeld. I know I wasn’t the only one thinking he was about to pull a leg string or muscle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 hours ago, Ryan Simpsons said: our special teams this year is bad. Giving up a TD on the opening drive. Bass missing some bad kicks and Martin stinking a bit punting deserves some changes next year in the special teams department No credit for the GREAT job Martin did punting yesterday? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Spiderweb said: No credit for the GREAT job Martin did punting yesterday? Martin did have a clutch punt yesterday but one punt doesn't magically vault you out of the 31st ranked net punter. The biggest fail of our ST unit is probably in the tackling and blocking of our punt/KO units. I can't watch Matakevich and his 5.1 speed run anymore. I still think we'll upgrade punter next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Martin did have a clutch punt yesterday but one punt doesn't magically vault you out of the 31st ranked net punter. The biggest fail of our ST unit is probably in the tackling and blocking of our punt/KO units. I can't watch Matakevich and his 5.1 speed run anymore. I still think we'll upgrade punter next year. Is the problem wkth the Punter or the coverage teams? You seem to think it is latter but still asking for an upgrade at the Punting position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, ganesh said: Is the problem wkth the Punter or the coverage teams? You seem to think it is latter but still asking for an upgrade at the Punting position You're right. The #1 problem is our inability to tackle and block. Name me one big return we've had all year. And yes we still need a better punter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 1/1/2024 at 12:25 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Martin did have a clutch punt yesterday but one punt doesn't magically vault you out of the 31st ranked net punter. The biggest fail of our ST unit is probably in the tackling and blocking of our punt/KO units. I can't watch Matakevich and his 5.1 speed run anymore. I still think we'll upgrade punter next year. A clutch punt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: A clutch punt? By "a" I assume he means 6 punts downed inside the 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: A clutch punt? Yea our final punt where we downed it at the 3 and NE couldn’t do anything backed up to their own end zone and went 3 and out. If a punt can’t even qualify as clutch to some people y’all aren’t taking special teams seriously enough 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 12/11/2023 at 12:10 AM, VaMilBill said: Contributing to that is our kicking games. Sam Martin is averaging 44 YPP which is ranked at 32. Not good. The amount of times he’s had short punts or just not a lot of hang time this year seems countless. AFC Special Teams Player of the month. I guess he needs to be Special Teams Player of the year to satisfy you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 While there are a lot of actors involved, including the punter, having an average starting position after a punt at the 19, means a lot of long fields for your opponents. Bills defense only gave up 8 TD's in 5 games - that will win a lot of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Yeah Martin has played well the last few games. I'm pretty worried about Bass though. We haven't even attempted a 50+ yard field goal in 11 games. We have either went for it, or punted, from our 35+ yard line several times. I don't know if they have lost faith in Bass or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Bad take… yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah Martin has played well the last few games. I'm pretty worried about Bass though. We haven't even attempted a 50+ yard field goal in 11 games. We have either went for it, or punted, from our 35+ yard line several times. I don't know if they have lost faith in Bass or what. Not kicking very long field goals in poor weather conditions and being aggressive will serve us well. Having Joe Brady as OC instead of Ken Dorsey is huge... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: AFC Special Teams Player of the month. I guess he needs to be Special Teams Player of the year to satisfy you. I mean this post was written after the chiefs game based on a trend of the entire season at that point in time. Of course Sam Martin had played well the last four games. I’ll admit it. But he was bad for the first 13 games of the season outside of the first Miami matchup. And Bass is another matter. I feel like McD does not have confidence in him at all and that scares me. Bass has also had a pretty poor season not just by his standards, but all kicker standards. I think you need to understand the context of when items are written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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