Bills @ Chiefs Postgame Thread

[Niagara Dude]

1 minute ago, somnus00 said:

So were the patriots. This team better not take their foot off the gas for anyone.

I agree, I think it's up to our offence to step up their game and star scoring points so these games get decided early.  

[Bob Jones]

23 hours ago, Cray51 said:

I need help understanding what we define as lucky.  I saw a team be resilient, and kept mahomes on his toes.  And, I think they did enough to win against a great team.

 

 Things to focus on, but it wasn’t pure luck

The KC guy lining up in the neutral zone, WHICH NULLIFIED A TD, certainly was lucky for the Bills, as that foul rarely happens in the NFL (especially on the offensive side). Bills would have had to come back for a TD, which didn't seem likely.

 

Edit: LMAO at the Red Xs people are giving me for this. The KC dumbo lining up in the neutral zone absolutely cost them a TD, and a likely win, as the big, bad Bills offense came up with only two FGs in the 2nd half. What makes anybody think that all of a sudden the Bills were going to mount a game winning TD drive with about a minute to go is mind boggling, and laughable.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Bob Jones

[DapperCam]

45 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Yeah they made it up with some ticky tak holding calls that the Chiefs never seemed to commit.

Back to back holding calls, almost the same yardage as the reception itself. Pretty clear immediate make up calls.

[Toledo Bill]

1 hour ago, BurpleBull said:

Mahomes crying the entire post-conference interview about Toney being called for the infraction. Whining about how Kelce won't get the enjoyment of seeing his throw be replayed on ESPN a million times. Guess this is the reaction of his team not getting calls or having calls go against them.

 

If dude doesn't get fined something heavy for criticism of the refs, I swear. 

Waiting on official NFL apology on Monday😡

[SinceThe70s]

33 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Bills close to being Offside on that 4th down play.  I think he assumed he had a free play but no flag.

 

Thanks - but my son subsequently showed me the press conference and he was upset that Toney was called Offside on the throwback play.

 

Just speculating, but maybe some lingering p!ssiness from the non-call at the end of the Packers game.

 

Definitely not a look I've seen from Mahomes. The fact that he was that p!ssed after the game makes me wonder if it affected him on the three plays that followed the penalty.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, ToGoGo said:

You don’t want to admit they were resilient because then you would have to admit you were maybe a little wrong about McDermott. 
 

I predicted you would be like this after reading your post earlier in the thread.

 

Who was resilient exactly? Benford as he got beat by Kelce? Rapp after taking a horrible angle and missing the tackle on Kelce? Or Cam Lewis who left Toney open just to watch the pitch sail by him as he collapsed into a pile on himself?

 

I dont mean to call out individual players when it's accurate to just say "McD's weak-minded team was about to let another one slip away in classic fashion but the other team screwed up worse"

[section122]

1 hour ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

No doubt I'll get hammered for this take but....

 

1. O-line got mauled.

 

2. D-line fell off the cliff again in the second half. Zero sacks.

 

3. Receivers MIA.

 

Pyrrhic victory. We're not threatening the top teams with this level of play.

We literally just beat a top team wtf are you talking about?!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

How is KC getting called for offensive Offside being resilient?

 

Lucky is watching the game be won on a crazy play no one was ready for even tho Kelce is infamous for his weird laterals, just to have it cancelled out because a WR lined up a foot to far. Nothing the Bills did there won the game for us. The defense didnt get the stop. They watched them score and win the game. KC beat themselves.

I mean…the game went on after that obvious penalty was called and the defense got the stop. Idk why this is being talked about like it was some miraculous last second play lol it makes no sense 

procedural/formation penalties wipe out tds very often not to mention I’m fairly certain offensive offside is a dead ball foul and this infamous Kelce lateral should not have been allowed to even happen 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

 

 

 

Tough call from the angle and because Taylor was already moving at RT at the EXACT same moment.......so when the ball is snapped wrt Offside should be irrelevant.

 

Taylor has gotten so bad at it that they could call it almost every down.   He's just been a horror show of a UFA signing but I digress.........

 

There are A LOT of these plays every game and they are all "moving" infractions against either the OL or DL and they clearly choose to avoid calling anything unless it's glaringly obvious.  

 

What happened with Toney was a stationary pre-snap foul........you can't just not call that.   

 

 

 

 

[tomur67]

Mahomes' logic: hey, maybe the refs should have warned us that we had 12 men on the field.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

I get where you're coming from Dawkenstein but to be fair, the defense did finish out the game after the penalty. And even if the lateral TD did stand, the game wasn't over: Josh would have had over a minute and three timeouts to go for the win.

 

But I do agree that a lot of the same problems we've seen from the Bills/McD this year reared their head. This win didn't necessarily boost the confidence meter, but hey, still better than the alternative.

 

KC was out of time outs, so McD could kneel it down and go to OT there.

 

Like I said, good for McD and the boys. They needed this psychologically. Even if McD isnt back next year, this would be an even deeper mental hole for Josh and Co. to dig out of next year.

[SUNTANBILLS FAN]

4 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

I get where you're coming from Dawkenstein but to be fair, the defense did finish out the game after the penalty. And even if the lateral TD did stand, the game wasn't over: Josh would have had over a minute and three timeouts to go for the win.

 

But I do agree that a lot of the same problems we've seen from the Bills/McD this year reared their head. This win didn't necessarily boost the confidence meter, but hey, still better than the alternative.

A penalty is a....... penalty 

[YoloinOhio]

Here’s the audio. They’re human and make mistakes? Explain to me Kermit how the call was a mistake, please.

 

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Someone should ask mahomes if "we would be talking about the refs" if he didn't throw a tantrum........no one will but without the tantrum no one even mentions the refs in this game in my opinion 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Just now, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

A penalty is a....... penalty 

What play are you guys talking about?  Because according to Romo, it never happened....lol

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

A penalty is a....... penalty 

I need someone to confirm this I feel like I’m takin crazy pills haha isn’t offensive offside a dead ball foul? Like…this infamous play should’ve been blown dead before the ball was even thrown im pretty sure 

[Beck Water]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Who was resilient exactly? Benford as he got beat by Kelce? Rapp after taking a horrible angle and missing the tackle on Kelce? Or Cam Lewis who left Toney open just to watch the pitch sail by him as he collapsed into a pile on himself?

 

I dont mean to call out individual players when it's accurate to just say "McD's weak-minded team was about to let another one slip away in classic fashion but the other team screwed up worse"

 

Oh, Sheesh.  Can't we just enjoy a W? 

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

How are the refs calling an infraction correctly “lucky”

 

man’s resilient is about the entirety of the game, not one play.  Also, the defense DID get the stop, because there were three plays after that the Bills shut down.

 

are the bills lucky that Floyd got a hand on Mahomes arm? Or was it proper coaching, playcalling, and execution?

 

We were "lucky" Toney is such a dummy. And apparently, to hear it from Mahomes about the warnings they usually get, we were lucky the refs actually called it correctly.

 

Floyd is all player execution. He's a real one.

[mannc]

5 minutes ago, ngbills said:

We were due for one of these. But this team is still not right. So many concerning things. I am still hoping for the playoff and what happens but there are serious issues. 

Agreed. I mean, for example, our WR1 has disappeared off the face of the earth…and the OC is going entire quarters without calling a running play, even though we have the lead and can’t pass block …

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, BurpleBull said:

Mahomes crying the entire post-conference interview about Toney being called for the infraction. Whining about how Kelce won't get the enjoyment of seeing his throw be replayed on ESPN a million times. Guess this is the reaction of his team not getting calls or having calls go against them.

 

If dude doesn't get fined something heavy for criticism of the refs, I swear. 

 

Flag was thrown at the snap. Clear infraction. What an ass.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Oh, Sheesh.  Can't we just enjoy a W? 

 

Enjoy it all you want. Participate in the surrounding discussions accordingly.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

Flag was thrown at the snap. Clear infraction. What an ass.

The dude is talkin like a td has never been nullified by a procedural penalty before haha 

 

it happens literally all the time and should only the ones without cool laterals be called? 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[ngbills]

Rules are rules 

[starrymessenger]

I have to wonder what the McD comments would have been if Toney had not been a few inches over the line. 

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Here’s the audio. They’re human and make mistakes? Explain to me Kermit how the call was a mistake, please.

 

 

 

Holy Guacamole, I do hope the league takes some action.

 

 That wasn't in any way a questionable or ticky-tac call.  Toney had his foot on the LOS.  Maybe get mad at your own guy for making a flub, Paddy.

[ngbills]

1 minute ago, mannc said:

Agreed. I mean, for example, our WR1 has disappeared off the face of the earth…and the OC is going entire quarters without calling a running play, even though we have the lead and can’t pass block …

And our rb was clearly having a day. Weird how they got away from it. 

[Since1981]

STILL need a WR2 and clutch time HC coach. poor Josh can only play Superman for so long. Cook-yeya

[Johnnycage46]

2 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

Flag was thrown at the snap. Clear infraction. What an ass.

Yeah, I don't understand how he can be mad at the refs...it was Offside O clear as day.  It's not a judgement call like holding, pi, etc.  Either you are Offside or you aren't.  What a ***** mahomes is.

[skibum]

Ugly win, but what they heck. Any win on the road in KC is likely to be ugly. it was desperately needed, and somehow they did it.  I'll take it!

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, BurpleBull said:

Mahomes crying the entire post-conference interview about Toney being called for the infraction. Whining about how Kelce won't get the enjoyment of seeing his throw be replayed on ESPN a million times. Guess this is the reaction of his team not getting calls or having calls go against them.

 

If dude doesn't get fined something heavy for criticism of the refs, I swear. 

 

Live clip of Chiefs postgame presser:

 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Yeah, I don't understand how he can be mad at the refs...it was Offside O clear as day.  It's not a judgement call like holding, pi, etc.  Either you are Offside or you aren't.  What a ***** mahomes is.

I think he’s just frustrated the way the last two games ended and it bubbled over…mvs dropped a late wide open td against GB last week.  Now he’s dug in and trying to defend himself for lookin like an absolute clown though and makin it worse 😂

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, tomur67 said:

Mahomes' logic: hey, maybe the refs should have warned us that we had 12 men on the field.

 

Yeah but more like "they should have picked up the flag after the fact because that 12th guy on the field didn't impact the missed kick at all so the refs denied football fans a dramatic miss of a make-able kick to end a game".

[BillnutinHouston]

1 hour ago, Talley56 said:

Taylor Swift to Toney after the game: Shake it off

 

I've never actually listened to a single Taylor Swift song (that I know of), but I think I know what you did there. 

[Niagara Dude]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Holy Guacamole, I do hope the league takes some action.

 

 That wasn't in any way a questionable or ticky-tac call.  Toney had his foot on the LOS.  Maybe get mad at your own guy for making a flub, Paddy.

This is pathetic,  the tape clearly shows Toney with one foot past the line.  It may suck for him but cry me a river after all the BS calls that went against us in the Philly game.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think he’s just frustrated the way the last two games ended and it bubbled over…mvs dropped a late wide open td against GB last week.  Now he’s dug in and trying to defend himself for lookin like an absolute clown though and makin it worse 😂

 

He's definitely projecting when all his anger really should be directed at the Chiefs WR room.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

I have to wonder what the McD comments would have been if Toney had not been a few inches over the line. 

Depends on which alternate reality we would’ve entered…there was plenty of time left and the bills had multiple timeouts.  
 

I just cannot wrap my head around that lateral…it wasn’t even a smart play if you 100% know it’s gonna work lol 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Beck Water]

6 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Rules are rules 

 

To the tune of "cheese tax":

Da rules are da rules and da facts are da facts and when you yell at the zebras, you oughtta pay the tax

[Olliemets]

1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said:

LOL. In the gameday thread I threw caution to the wind and became a Chiefs fan.

 

 

Very Costanza Like !!!! Opposites....

[QLBillsFan]

14 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

I get where you're coming from Dawkenstein but to be fair, the defense did finish out the game after the penalty. And even if the lateral TD did stand, the game wasn't over: Josh would have had over a minute and three timeouts to go for the win.

 

But I do agree that a lot of the same problems we've seen from the Bills/McD this year reared their head. This win didn't necessarily boost the confidence meter, but hey, still better than the alternative.

They gave up 17 against KC I’ll take it.. not apologizing after all the losses that should have been Ws.. the Chiefs whining about idiot 19 being Offside by half a yard is on them. Bills could talk holding and PIs never called on them.

[KellyToTasker]

9 minutes ago, mannc said:

Agreed. I mean, for example, our WR1 has disappeared off the face of the earth…and the OC is going entire quarters without calling a running play, even though we have the lead and can’t pass block …

Still light years better than what we saw with Dorsey. None of the Cook passes happen with him. Chiefs have a good defense with a tough reputation for a reason. Spagnola is a magician with his pressure packages.